Why the fuck did he make this response on a bicycle? Why did he try and justify not eating food that's already been made "on principle"? I think maddox said it best, there's nothing wrong with sticking to your diet principles but if you waste food that's already been made you're not fucking helping anything.
Oh god the video gets even worse later on too when he claims he's some kind of hero "flying with the eagles" for saving all the animals and anyone who's not a vegan is hitler
I never understood veganism, you're just refusing to eat meat that someone else is going to eat anyway.
Someone should tell him that you neither rape, torture, or murder a cow to make cheese.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;50568409]I never understood veganism, you're just refusing to eat meat that someone else is going to eat anyway.[/QUOTE]
It's not really hard to understand how someone can not want animal produce.
It's just not for me
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;50568409]I never understood veganism, you're just refusing to eat meat that someone else is going to eat anyway.[/QUOTE]
I would imagine that for at least some vegans, it's more about the moral principle than an attempt to get people to stop eating meat.
agreed
i dont give a fuck if its your thing..don't like meat? cool with me
But when you start becoming one of the offensive whiners then you display immense ignorance IMO
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;50568409]I never understood veganism, you're just refusing to eat meat that someone else is going to eat anyway.[/QUOTE]
It's a choice, there really isn't anything else to it.
This guy is so full of himself.
Also in the pizza video its him live streaming himself flossing.
WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO WATCH ANOTHER PERSON FLOSS?
even though i disagree about most of what he said, he is right on the whole dislike stuff, acknowledging that he'll get views regardless of what people like or dislike because any attention is good attention for him.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;50568409]I never understood veganism, you're just refusing to eat meat that someone else is going to eat anyway.[/QUOTE]
This is an extreme example, but it's like saying "I dunno why you'd be nice to people when someone else is going to be a dick anyways". Yeah, someone else is going to eat the meat, but it's a personal choice of theirs and they at least feel like they aren't adding to what they think is the problem, if that makes sense?
I ain't even vegan, but I can understand where they're coming from, even though they literally make 0 difference in the amount of animals killed and eaten.
[QUOTE=James xX;50568507]Someone should tell him that you neither [I]rape, torture,[/I] or murder a cow to make cheese.[/QUOTE]
That's not far off. Cows are forceably impregnated for their milk.
if it isn't vegans, it's bicyclists [although they are marginally less annoying than vegans]
[editline]22nd June 2016[/editline]
and this guy is both, HRRRK
The whole "it'll go to waste otherwise" or "someone else would eat it" aren't really good arguments, unless there's some way to explicitly say so, you just show up as another consumer. That +1 can mean an extra shipment of meat to a store, which ends up higher on the chain as another head of cattle on a farm(rounded up to an even figure usually)
Whenever you pay for meat, you're making a vote for making more meat
[editline]22nd June 2016[/editline]
<- Proud member of the medium-rare party
I watched this video for like 5 seconds but got bored and went back to eating my salami sandwich
I wonder how he would feel about my cat that regularly kills other animals then drags them into the house to eat them.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;50568409]I never understood veganism, you're just refusing to eat meat that someone else is going to eat anyway.[/QUOTE]
I know two vegans and they both do it for health reasons rather than love for animals.
[QUOTE=Scot;50568941]I know two vegans and they both do it for health reasons rather than love for animals.[/QUOTE]
Deficiency sure is healthy. Vitamin B12 to be exact.
Veganism is a tad silly in the sense that we humans are omnivores. So it's either eating some animal products or taking supplements.
But lots of small animals get decimated by harvesters anyways, so there's a tad bit of futility there too.
I actually wonder what the results so far have been with people being vegan. Like has it actually lowered meat production or anything like it?
The only thing i am aware of that they did manage was the creation of hip and cool "eco/bio" supermarkets that sell all sorts of bio products for 3x the regular price.
[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;50569353]Deficiency sure is healthy. Vitamin B12 to be exact.
Veganism is a tad silly in the sense that we humans are omnivores. So it's either eating some animal products or taking supplements.
But lots of small animals get decimated by harvesters anyways, so there's a tad bit of futility there too.[/QUOTE]
I like the Vegetarian movement because fuck meat corporations.
[QUOTE=Greenen72;50568852]The whole [b]"it'll go to waste otherwise"[/b] or "someone else would eat it" aren't really good arguments, unless there's some way to explicitly say so, you just show up as another consumer. That +1 can mean an extra shipment of meat to a store, which ends up higher on the chain as another head of cattle on a farm(rounded up to an even figure usually)
[b]Whenever you pay for meat, you're making a vote for making more meat[/b][/QUOTE]
Maybe the someone else would eat it argument, but you're completely misunderstanding the "it'll go to waste otherwise" argument. They're not saying if you don't buy it, they're saying if you inadvertently buy it. You can't avoid just showing up as another consumer, if you throw it away it's already been paid for, for example in this guy's tragic pizza trauma. So no, it's a pretty logical thing to say. If you've ordered food and realize later it doesn't meet your moral diet throwing away the food doesn't help your cause because they've already made their money, they don't even know you threw it away, plus you're encouraging food waste.
I just don't understand why you'd be against something that's hard-coded in our brain? We literally have K9 teeth for nothing but eating meat. It just doesn't make sense to me considering other animals eat other animals. "Oh yeah but they don't have a choice." we'll the only reason we do is because you can take supplements to replace the vitamins and shit you need and normally get from meat. Like that would be like going without sex for the rest of your life because you think it's unnatural, even though it is and we need to do it to survive.
Edit:
I do understand that the way some factories handle and kill animals is cruel but then shouldn't self-killed meat be fine?
[QUOTE=Zombie man70;50569697]I just don't understand why you'd be against something that's hard-coded in our brain?[/QUOTE]
Meat corporations, environmental issues, moral beliefs.
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;50569733]Meat corporations, environmental issues, moral beliefs.[/QUOTE]
I understand, but I feel the first two reasons (the most logical imo) are never the common reason. I just don't understand the morality behind it as we kind of do need to eat meat to survive
[QUOTE=Zombie man70;50569753]I understand, but I feel the first two reasons (the most logical imo) are never the common reason. I just don't understand the morality behind it as we kind of do need to eat meat to survive[/QUOTE]
Me niether, but hey that's how some people roll I guess.
I feel it's just an excuse to be an elitist. He even says in the video the vegan community would not forgive him for making a mistake when he want as far as getting a pizza without cheese
[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;50569353]Deficiency sure is healthy. Vitamin B12 to be exact.
Veganism is a tad silly in the sense that we humans are omnivores. So it's either eating some animal products or taking supplements.
But lots of small animals get decimated by harvesters anyways, so there's a tad bit of futility there too.[/QUOTE]
everyone is deficient in a variety of things whether they eat meat or not
[QUOTE=Jelman;50568712]This guy is so full of himself.[/QUOTE]
but he doesn't eat meat
"Flying with the eagles and the hawks"
Eagles and Hawks are carnivores?
It would be more fitting to say "Flying with the geese" because how much they match the personality of vegans.
also jesus christ, this guy is legit trying to be vegan gains so hard
[video=youtube;A3roSeUgAeI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3roSeUgAeI[/video]
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;50568409]I never understood veganism, you're just refusing to eat meat that someone else is going to eat anyway.[/QUOTE]
this is not a very healthy way of looking at ethics regardless of your stance on veganism man
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