I wanted to go but couldn't because last minute things occurred, but my co-worker went and he told me that he drank something from his neighbors tent that they offered him and he woke up 2 hours later with an IV in his arm.
Is Tomorrowland that crazy ass party?
I kinda feel bad for the guy
[QUOTE=rshunter313;46186933]Is Tomorrowland that crazy ass party?
I kinda feel bad for the guy[/QUOTE]
It's TomorrowWorld not tomorrowland. That's obviously in or visiting Georgia, but tomorrowland is fucking Belgium. Which is why i was so curious my Belgians were speaking in a Southern accent.
I live almost next to where tomorrowworld is held, it's right on the other side of the woods in my backyard. The 1st night we had some dude running super sanic speed in the street in front of my house with 2 cars chasing him, dude had to be on something I never seen a man run that fast in my life.
Poor dude. People are assholes.
[editline]8th October 2014[/editline]
I didn't know people needed to be that cautious. Is it that likely that someone will pose naked in your creek to have a few mates jump out to ambush you, or something?
[QUOTE=Joscpe;46187634]Poor dude. People are assholes.
[editline]8th October 2014[/editline]
I didn't know people needed to be that cautious. Is it that likely that someone will pose naked in your creek to have a few mates jump out to ambush you, or something?[/QUOTE]
Pretty much. The con/trap is to pose as an injured person and then jump them.
Nah he was way overly cautious
Nobody is gonna wait in the middle of some random ass forest, completely naked, just hoping some hunter will come by and not accidentally shoot them in the process
Don't tell me you guys wouldn't be careful if someone was standing buck naked in the middle of a pond where you usually hunt.
[editline]9th October 2014[/editline]
Also, I want a follow-up video.
I remember people were comparing the polish Woodstock festival to Tommorowland and being incredibly mad about it for some reason. Like being a Tommorowland fanboy if you can call it that.
[editline]9th October 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=nutcake;46190236]Don't tell me you guys wouldn't be careful if someone was standing buck naked in the middle of a pond where you usually hunt.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think people are underestimating the rush of the situation. A gun doesn't make you invincible.
those youtube comments...
guy is being called an asshole by loads of people because he spent 10 minutes assessing the situation before helping.
I bet they would be just as calm and collected if they met a naked guy in the middle of the woods with presumably nobody for miles around.
Wow Americans are seriously untrustful.
Seriously... Not being a dick here, but in the Netherlands people would not even talk for 3 minutes if you yelled you were beaten up and dropped off in the woods after a festival. Especially not if you also said you hadnt eaten anything for 4 days, and licked water of leaves.
Whats wrong with this camera man... he was even armed so what was he afraid of?
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Yes I have a true story that happened to provide anecdotal 'evidence', but I'm just saying.. it's really strange to me to see this hesitation of trust.
[QUOTE=Pr0fane;46190623]Wow Americans are seriously untrustful.
Seriously... Not being a dick here, but in the Netherlands people would not even talk for 3 minutes if you yelled you were beaten up and dropped off in the woods after a festival. Especially not if you also said you hadnt eaten anything for 4 days, and licked water of leaves.
Whats wrong with this camera man... he was even armed so what was he afraid of?
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Yes I have a true story that happened to provide anecdotal 'evidence', but I'm just saying.. it's really strange to me to see this hesitation of trust.[/QUOTE]
Does your country have very lax gun laws? No. Take it from the point of view that he may have people with guns who would quickly either rob you or shoot you and leave you for dead. If a random person was naked near my deer lease, I would immediately call the local sheriff. Yes, I'd gladly leave water and food for the person, but I wouldn't go near them nor would I go where they are standing.
[QUOTE=Pr0fane;46190623]Wow Americans are seriously untrustful.
Seriously... Not being a dick here, but in the Netherlands people would not even talk for 3 minutes if you yelled you were beaten up and dropped off in the woods after a festival. Especially not if you also said you hadnt eaten anything for 4 days, and licked water of leaves.
Whats wrong with this camera man... he was even armed so what was he afraid of?
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Yes I have a true story that happened to provide anecdotal 'evidence', but I'm just saying.. it's really strange to me to see this hesitation of trust.[/QUOTE]
Because it's weird. People are scared of the unknown. And you've just used the actions of one American as a blanket statement about the entire country as a whole. It's not like this one midwestern hunter is a prime example of normal behavior. Also, he didn't have a gun, he had a bow.
[QUOTE=Pr0fane;46190623]Wow Americans are seriously untrustful.
Seriously... Not being a dick here, but in the Netherlands people would not even talk for 3 minutes if you yelled you were beaten up and dropped off in the woods after a festival. Especially not if you also said you hadnt eaten anything for 4 days, and licked water of leaves.
Whats wrong with this camera man... he was even armed so what was he afraid of?
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Yes I have a true story that happened to provide anecdotal 'evidence', but I'm just saying.. it's really strange to me to see this hesitation of trust.[/QUOTE]
I definitely wouldn't just approach a random naked guy in the woods even if I had a weapon...
Put it this way, you don't know why they are there, what their state of mind is, if they are telling the truth/insane/on drugs.
Even if it was obvious he didn't have anyone else in the area waiting to jump out, for all the guy with the camera knows he could get close and the guy could be crazy and charge him or something, and I'm sure you wouldn't want to kill someone and also have to deal with trying to explain why you killed a naked unarmed person on your property.
It's the same reason first responders are trained not to rush into a situation...First you make sure you are safe before you help someone who is apparently in danger/hurt. An extra 10 minutes to assess the situation is a pretty good decision and its not much to ask before helping.
[QUOTE=Woovie;46190815]Does your country have very lax gun laws? No. Take it from the point of view that he may have people with guns who would quickly either rob you or shoot you and leave you for dead. If a random person was naked near my deer lease, I would immediately call the local sheriff. Yes, I'd gladly leave water and food for the person, but I wouldn't go near them nor would I go where they are standing.[/QUOTE]
So yeah I agree, lax gun laws make for a shit country. It makes everyone very jumpy, and distrusting of everyone. Cops, civilians everyone.. This could indeed be an explanation for the origin of the mentality.
But still, you are proving exactly what I was claiming. You too are distrustful. Why?
You think it's more likely that
1. a man would stand 100% naked in a forest
2. in full sight of (heavily) armed mates
3. will continue to do so for several hours without garantee that someone would even come past them
4. so they can rob and shoot that guy (seriously, what of value does a guy walking through a forest have....)
Than that he is in true and genuine need of help. To me, this comes across as seriously paranoid.
I know this might be a cultural difference, and that you think I am trying to offend you.
I'm not, I'm just discussing.
[editline]9th October 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Aetna;46190816]Because it's weird. People are scared of the unknown. And you've just used the actions of one American as a blanket statement about the entire country as a whole. It's not like this one midwestern hunter is a prime example of normal behavior. Also, he didn't have a gun, he had a bow.[/QUOTE]
Fair points. But I'm not generalizing every American here.
It's just that most American commenters (especially on Youtube) also agree that he handled the situation like he should have.
Seems to be a shared sentiment at least to some extent.
I'm ofcourse not claiming every American is the same, or would act this way.
[editline]9th October 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Cushie;46191202]I definitely wouldn't just approach a random naked guy in the woods even if I had a weapon...
Put it this way, you don't know why they are there, what their state of mind is, if they are telling the truth/insane/on drugs.
Even if it was obvious he didn't have anyone else in the area waiting to jump out, for all the guy with the camera knows he could get close and the guy could be crazy and charge him or something, and I'm sure you wouldn't want to kill someone and also have to deal with trying to explain why you killed a naked unarmed person on your property.
It's the same reason first responders are trained not to rush into a situation...First you make sure you are safe before you help someone who is apparently in danger/hurt. An extra 10 minutes to assess the situation is a pretty good decision and its not much to ask before helping.[/QUOTE]
Well I honestly would. Even if they are insane or on drugs. They are still a person that needs help, maybe especially in those situations.
And again, you are also showing that you are distrustful in nature.
Not an insult, an observation.
I mean this fully... the thought "wow this guy might hurt me" does not even come to mind if I'd see someone visibly confused, disoriented, and especially naked. And this is not stupidity or me being naive. It's because I know what the risks and normal outcomes in situations were that I experienced before.
Also, I'd be seriously pissed if first responders here in the Netherlands waited 10 minutes to help someone I know if they were in need in whatever way. Rushing in head first is the other side of the medallion, ofcourse I'm not calling for that. But you can very well make estimated decisions in a matter of seconds.
The type of person who would go unhesitantly and without question try to help a possibly clinically insane deranged dude who's trespassing on their property is not the sort of person who writes paragraphs to strangers on the internet about how selfless and un-judgemental they are
Actually, there is one sort of person who fits both of these bills: an idiot
If you wouldn't immediately help someone lost and naked in the woods you're an asshole.
[QUOTE=Scot;46191664]If you wouldn't immediately help someone lost and naked in the woods you're an asshole.[/QUOTE]
yeah dude instead of assessing the situation and figuring out why there's a naked man on your property just let him into your home, great advice
[QUOTE=Shortyish;46191881]yeah dude instead of assessing the situation and figure out why there's a naked man on your property just let him into your home, great advice[/QUOTE]
yeah man put words in my mouth
help doesnt mean let in your house
[QUOTE=Scot;46191887]yeah man put words in my mouth
help doesnt mean let in your house[/QUOTE]
its not like he was dying or anything, there's no reason unquestionably rush to his aid without seeing why he is there in the first place
[QUOTE=hrak;46191541]The type of person who would go unhesitantly and without question try to help a possibly clinically insane deranged dude who's trespassing on their property is not the sort of person who writes paragraphs to strangers on the internet about how selfless and un-judgemental they are
Actually, there is one sort of person who fits both of these bills: an idiot[/QUOTE]
Again, you are proving my point.
A man naked, telling you about that he's been beaten up and dropped off into the woods by strangers, does not put the thought "Omfg trespasser clinically insane deranged killer" into my mind.
The fact that it does to you means at least that you are distrusting of strangers.
Do you get what I'm saying? I do not think "THREAT" I think "Someone needs help".
Don't go reductio ad absurdum and try to portrey me as some blind naive idiot who flies into danger without thinking. I am saying, that I make a estimate of the situation in around 5 seconds. Naked man alone in woods telling you he's lost, speaks incoherently and hasn't had food in 4 days doesn't scream "Psycho murderer" to me, it screams "HELP ME".
[QUOTE=Shortyish;46191947]its not like he was dying or anything, there's no reason unquestionably rush to his aid without seeing why he is there in the first place[/QUOTE]
I guess I'm just a more trusting compassionate person than others.
[QUOTE=Shortyish;46191947]its not like he was dying or anything, there's no reason unquestionably rush to his aid without seeing why he is there in the first place[/QUOTE]
It's fucking October, he's buttnaked, no shoes, no socks.
He tells you he's been like this for 4 days, that he's lost and hasn't had food.
The fact that he's incoherent makes me think his health might be in serious danger, and seeing why he is there in the first place is done in 30 seconds. Not 4-10 minutes of screaming from a distance.
Again... I said Americans are distrustful, and every single one of you have proven the stereotype.
[B]The point I am trying to make is:
Your brain -> this story -> man might be threat
My brain -> this story -> man needs help. I so no indicators whatsoever that this man is a threat after 5 seconds of assesment.[/B]
[QUOTE=Pr0fane;46191980]It's fucking October, he's buttnaked, no shoes, no socks.
He tells you he's been like this for 4 days, that he's lost and hasn't had food.
The fact that he's incoherent makes me think his health might be in serious danger, and seeing why he is there in the first place is done in 30 seconds. Not 4-10 minutes of screaming from a distance.
Again... I said Americans are distrustful, and every single one of you have proven the stereotype.
[B]The point I am trying to make is:
Your brain -> this story -> man might be threat
My brain -> this story -> man needs help. I so no indicators whatsoever that this man is a threat after 5 seconds of assesment.[/B][/QUOTE]
Key phrase MIGHT be a threat. He questioned him for 4 minutes before offering him food and water, get your panties out of a tangle and use your brain. If you're willing to immediately approach someone who's naked trespassing on your property who can't answer basic questions after 5 seconds, you're not very smart. If he was there for 4 days, waiting 4 minutes to answer a few questions before being given food and water isn't going to kill him. It wasn't a long time and you're making a big deal out of absolutely nothing.
Would you pick up a naked hitchhiker on public property? No, so I doubt you'd pick up a naked man on YOUR property without asking a few questions.
[QUOTE=Aetna;46192117]Key phrase MIGHT be a threat. He questioned him for 4 minutes before offering him food and water, get your panties out of a tangle and use your brain. If you're willing to immediately approach someone who's naked trespassing on your property who can't answer basic questions after 5 seconds, you're not very smart. If he was there for 4 days, waiting 4 minutes to answer a few questions before being given food and water isn't going to kill him. It wasn't a long time and you're making a big deal out of absolutely nothing.
Would you pick up a naked hitchhiker on public property? No, so I doubt you'd pick up a naked man on YOUR property without asking a few questions.[/QUOTE]
Again calm down. Jesus christ. Are you literally not capable of expressing your opinion without resorting to swearing, namecalling and belittling?
I never said "See naked guy in woods -> RUN TO HIM". You are misrepresenting what I said.
If I see a naked man in the woods I would not think "THREAT", but I would yell out from a distance if he is ok, or needs help.
If he then answers he's been there for 4 days, without food, no clothes and was beaten up at a festival then YES I would go to him immediatly. That's literally 10 seconds of questioning I would do before helping him.
You realize he might not be able to answer your questions because he's in serious need of medical attention after walking around naked for 4 days in the woods without water in October? He might be dehydrated, hypothermic or even under the influance of a substance.
I'm making a big deal? I'm trying to engage in discussion why you think the way you think. I said many times I"m not attacking you or anyone who is cautious... but that I'm just curious to see where the distrust stems from.
Get that through your skull please.
[QUOTE=Pr0fane;46190623]
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Yes I have a true story that happened to provide anecdotal 'evidence', but I'm just saying.. it's really strange to me to see this hesitation of trust.[/QUOTE]
As I said in this post, I do have anecdotal evidence that I do act differently.
This is anecdotal, and I have no proof that it happened, you'll just have to believe me.
Back when I was 16 I was cycling through the local forest here. A highway passes through it, and people going to or coming from from a local going-out-place walk and/or cycle through the forest between the city and the club there.
Was there with 10 friends, and I went home early because it was a Friday and I had to work Saturday morning, which I didn't want to do hung over. I rode back at around 00:15, and it's only a 20 minute bike trip so I was comfortable going alone.
I then saw a flash of skin in my bike headlight, so I stopped and yelled out if someone was in the bushes.
Silence, but I was sure I saw someone running. I yell out again, and eventually a girl yells back, still in the bushes.
Got of my bike, went into the bushes and then I saw this naked girl in ruins.
I'll spare you the details, but that girl was just raped 10 minutes ago by a man with a similar coat as mine and she feared I was him and that I came back to do something to her.
She was butt naked too, and this was in December with groundfrost. I put my coat on her, and biked her to where the club was as fast as I could since that was way closer than the city.
Sure this turned out to be a girl in serious need of help, but the point is I helped blindly.. Replying "Yeah a naked girl is different" has no use.
I had absolutely no idea she was a girl before already offering help. I got of my bike, got close, and offered help without knowing what was going on.
Here in the Netherlands at least, peoples mind don't scream "BE CAREFUL" all the time. Nor are we idiots for not having that feeling. We just grew up in a society were we learned that there isn't a lot to be feared or distrusting of.
It's a calculated estimate of the country I live in, and what dangers are posed or not posed here.
you people are ridiculous
he spent 9 minutes questioning the dude to assess the situation, it isn't like he immediately ran away. He was going to help him when he turned off the camera. On a scale of four days, 9 minutes in't exactly 'forever', especially when he was going to give him food right then and there.
he didn't take long to make sure that guy wasn't a psycho (wow 4 mins he could've died!!). and in the end he helped him. and also this is america where the mental care is bad so i would be cautious too if i found a naked man in the middle of the woods.
[QUOTE=Pr0fane;46192188]Again calm down. Jesus christ. Are you literally not capable of expressing your opinion without resorting to swearing, namecalling and belittling?
I never said "See naked guy in woods -> RUN TO HIM". You are misrepresenting what I said.
If I see a naked man in the woods I would not think "THREAT", but I would yell out from a distance if he is ok, or needs help.
If he then answers he's been there for 4 days, without food, no clothes and was beaten up at a festival then YES I would go to him immediatly. That's literally 10 seconds of questioning I would do before helping him.
You realize he might not be able to answer your questions because he's in serious need of medical attention after walking around naked for 4 days in the woods without water in October? He might be dehydrated, hypothermic or even under the influance of a substance.
I'm making a big deal? I'm trying to engage in discussion why you think the way you think. I said many times I"m not attacking you or anyone who is cautious... but that I'm just curious to see where the distrust stems from.
[B]Get that through your skull please.[/B]
[/QUOTE]
Lol, what? When did I swear or call you names...? Look at your own post, you're being a hypocrite.
Also, this:
[QUOTE=dai;46192587]you people are ridiculous
he spent 9 minutes questioning the dude to assess the situation, it isn't like he immediately ran away. He was going to help him when he turned off the camera. On a scale of four days, 9 minutes in't exactly 'forever', especially when he was going to give him food right then and there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cushie;46190455]those youtube comments...
guy is being called an asshole by loads of people because he spent 10 minutes assessing the situation before helping.
I bet they would be just as calm and collected if they met a naked guy in the middle of the woods with presumably nobody for miles around.[/QUOTE]
Well yeah, that's youtube. I can't stand looking at the comments, it boggles my mind that these people exist every single time.
I understand being careful and all, but it seemed he was taking it a bit far. You kind of get the gist of what's going on with the guy after about two minutes of conversation. Still by no means would I consider him an asshole or stupid for it (I was saying the people who mugged him and took his clothes were assholes, if that was a misunderstanding in this thread), just couldn't see myself ever taking that extreme precaution of a naked man in a creek. Specially when they'd have no reason to suspect you of showing up there, I wouldn't fathom it likely for someone to set up a trap like that and wait for a chance. You can also tell he is of relatively sane and sober mind by his ability to understand and converse.
Also, at first I could have sworn it was Danny McBride speaking.
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