[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU[/media]
Yep. It's been coming along time now.
Dang.. Pretty scary stuff. What are the people supposed to do then?
[QUOTE=RapistSanta;45677563]Dang.. Pretty scary stuff. What are the people supposed to do then?[/QUOTE]
Become programmers to delay the inevitable.
Sure it would be cool not to work but what kind of reality would that be? Would it be safe worry free reality with no war or famine? Or would it be a dredged abusive reality with war and immense poverty?
This sorta future just gives me the feeling it will lead to abuse of humans. If preventive measures aren't put in place and stay in place.
I'm glad I'm going into electronics engineering
[QUOTE=Trumple;45677654]I'm glad I'm going into electronics engineering[/QUOTE]
Up until you meet Marvin 8.1, your new robot buddy who's better than you! :v:
[QUOTE=Trumple;45677654]I'm glad I'm going into electronics engineering[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, you'll be redundant soon as well
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You bitch
I don't see this as a problem. When it is needed, humans have shifted their cultural perspective, and we're able to do it faster than ever. Many people forget this, but the modern concept of "job" isn't some magical entity that we require to survive. It didn't even exist until about 200 years ago.
Sounds like something a video-creating bot would say.
[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;45678010]Sounds like something a video-creating bot would say.[/QUOTE]
This has to be the best post I've seen on facepunch this year.
Riots all day erry day
I've always thought this when I was in middle school. I thought that the capitalistic nature of the economy would collapse due to unemployment caused by automation.
But I hope we, as the human race, will understand that there will be no need for war or money once automation becomes dominant in the economy, and that we all are treated as equals when there is no resource scarcity, and that we may accelerate our technology to the point where we no longer need to create new technologies to sustain us.
[img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/rainbow.png[/img]
Well, that was depressing.
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we have bots in News Node and some of them really suck.
Can we replace them with a human that gets paid to post us news?
Can't wait for the Robot Recession of 2030. :suicide:
Good thing my job is programming robots.
[QUOTE=ThePuska;45678426]Good thing my job is programming robots.[/QUOTE]
It's scum like you that are taking jobs away from hard working humans. What are you a human hater?
[sp]its a joke. calm your tits.[/sp]
This is eerily fascinating, a very real issue that cannot be ignored for long. This is the kind of reality that could've been in a Crichton novel a decade or two ago and been very, very correct.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;45677728]Up until you meet Marvin 8.1, your new robot buddy who's better than you! :v:[/QUOTE]
Not if I'm working on Marvin 8.2 :v:
[QUOTE=Trumple;45678557]Not if I'm working on Marvin 8.2 :v:[/QUOTE]
It'll be already on Marvin 9.5
[QUOTE=Glorbo;45677820]I don't see this as a problem. When it is needed, humans have shifted their cultural perspective, and we're able to do it faster than ever. Many people forget this, but the modern concept of "job" isn't some magical entity that we require to survive. It didn't even exist until about 200 years ago.[/QUOTE]
Except that we need things to survive. And maybe eventually sure we can use robots to do everything for us and not need money to get those things, but well before that happens mass unemployment will do so much damage to the human race. There is no such thing as a peaceful transition into a work-free world.
And let's not even talk about AI, that has its own terrifying set of problems.
Engineers are evil? Got it.
I disagree about it being inevitable because of economics. An economy only functions by generating new capital and growing the population to increase the size of the market. If you automated away 45% of the workforce then the companies would lose whatever money they saved through automation because potentially trillions of dollars of capital would go extinct. No income, no consumer, no growth, no revenue, no economy, complete stagnation.
Not to mention it would compound what is inevitably going to be a global problem by the end of this century if trends continue. People from wealthy countries don't have babies at even replacement levels, soon birthrates globally will fall to whats typical in western countries as global living standards climb.
And beyond that, economics have taken a back seat in the past before, when social and civil catastrophe loomed. This problem wont sneak up on us, despite what that video or others might think. We wont wake up one morning with shriveled economies and 50%+ unemployment rates and pull a Charlton Heston. Future legislation curbing automation doesn't seem far fetched.
Still though if you were interested in "realistic doomsday" scenarios, you could argue that the reason we've never met or ever will meet an intelligent alien species is because they all outmoded themselves and went extinct. Millions of empty planets with machines endlessly sustaining themselves and the ghosts that built them.
We're eventually going to end up with a global economy based on something other than money, and it's not going to be based on owning different physical goods either.
I just wish I had some sort of idea as to what we're going to end up.
Then again, there's the option where 45% of the population goes unemployed, and hungry, and we kill each other off.
humbug! the automobile will never catch on
the only viable solution is to merge ourselves with machines.
Stroggos Stronk
There was an episode of Superfriends about this that I saw as a kid that has, funny enough, always stuck with me. Basically some guy invents a super computer that can replace everybody's job ever so nobody has anything to do.
[quote]The SuperFriends are skeptical, believing that the G.E.E.C. will remove all purposes in life. Mr. Higgins agrees and on behalf of the government refuses to accept project G.E.E.C. Angrily, the professor announces that he will it offer it to the public for free. Since it is not against the law the government and SuperFriends can't do anything to stop it. They warn him that the G.E.E.C. has no moral compass and if it malfunctions it won't know anything is wrong.
A month later, the world has changed. Marvin and Wendy no longer attend school. Aquaman is patrolling harbors on his faithful sea-horse and is not happy. Superman is patrolling the skies and sees no disasters happening.[/quote]
And then a mouse got inside the computer, chewed on some wires, and screwed it all up because now the computer controlling everything was messing things up. Eventually the computer gets shut down because it was a single point of failure, but the first part of that episode was something that stuck with me long since. They never really addressed if that was a bad thing or not. The thing is, the world ran better when it was automated and effectively made people obsolete and everything pretty pointless. That's a good thing right? Everything was super easy and nobody had to work, but it still felt very wrong.
Good to know that I will never be unemployed as automation engineer, at least in my lifetime
Haha, I'm going to be an artist, robots can't replace me!
[i]'Creative Bots'[/i]
MOTHER FUCKER
[QUOTE=Katatonic717;45680930]Haha, I'm going to be an artist, robots can't replace me!
[i]'Creative Bots'[/i]
MOTHER FUCKER[/QUOTE]
Robots will still never be as creative as humans.
People will still have jobs.
In the Robot Resistance.
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[QUOTE=Sharker;45680971]Robots will still never be as creative as humans.[/QUOTE]
Tell me again how you measure creativity?
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