This analysis is incredibly relevant to Mass Effect 3.
So many people hate on the last ~7 minutes of the game that they overlook the hours of gameplay that came before.
Considering than an ending is a conclusion to a build up, a bad ending can ruin an experience by being a disappointment.
Imagine titanic where the boat doesn't sink, so yes of course an ending can ruin a movie heh.
I don't know why but I'm always slightly annoyed by the fact that Doug's tone of voice is the exact same on the ending conclusion to all these film theory types of videos.
I immediately thought of snowpiercer, the ending leaves a sour feeling.
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;51295696]This analysis is incredibly relevant to Mass Effect 3.
So many people hate on the last ~7 minutes of the game that they overlook the hours of gameplay that came before.[/QUOTE]
You say that as though the preceding 40 hours weren't a clusterfuck of terrible design decisions and awful bugs. Though even without that, yes the ending of ME3 is so awful it does ruin everything which came before.
People always talk about how "It's the journey that matters" but if the journey takes you to a burning dumpster fire it wasn't worth taking to begin with. Endings are important, the entire reason to go on a journey is to reach the ending.
[QUOTE=Stolons;51295890]I immediately thought of snowpiercer, the ending leaves a sour feeling.[/QUOTE]
Are you talking about how its a feel good ending? Cause I didn't get that feeling.
[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;51295870]Having a bad ending can ruin the entire experience.
It can feel like the time and effort you invested in the game / movie / book was completely wasted because the conclusion was bad[/QUOTE]
In the past, I'd replay ME1 and ME2 every once in awhile, doing more sidequests that I had missed, changing choices, I didn't do that anymore after ME3, the extended ending certainly helped, but I just didn't have that urge to go back and play those games anymore.
To be fair, Secret Window's original short story had the same twist, and even then it never ruined the movie for me so I don't know why he's going after that one
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;51296189]You say that as though the preceding 40 hours weren't a clusterfuck of terrible design decisions and awful bugs. Though even without that, yes the ending of ME3 is so awful it does ruin everything which came before.
People always talk about how "It's the journey that matters" but if the journey takes you to a burning dumpster fire it wasn't worth taking to begin with. Endings are important, the entire reason to go on a journey is to reach the ending.[/QUOTE]
Looking back at it, ME3's ending was so bad that it basically made the grand majority of the fan base despise Bioware and tarnished their reputation more than Dragon Age 2 did.
[QUOTE=Blind Lulu;51296584]As someone who watch Cloverfield Lane, the answer is yes.[/QUOTE]
It was so blatantly obvious that it was two movies stitched together. Not to forget that people caught on to "Let's put Cloverfield in the title for a quick cash grab" shtick and they had to resort to saying it's a monster-of-the-week series to cover their asses
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;51296356]Are you talking about how its a feel good ending? Cause I didn't get that feeling.[/QUOTE]
No it was just awful, our LAN party watched it and we felt so bad we quickly switched to marathoning moomin
No better example than Farenheit/Indigo Prophecy.
Fuckin' hell, what a shit ending. What could have been one of the hallmarks of that generation, turned into a joke.
Absolutely, same thing with opposite where movies is just boring but the ending saves it, like Mist
.
[QUOTE=RG4ORDR;51296771]Looking back at it, ME3's ending was so bad that it basically made the grand majority of the fan base despise Bioware and tarnished their reputation-[/QUOTE]
And then there's people like me who now have hard time playing Mass Effect trilogy because we know the ending is going to be unsatisfying as hell.
you know those super shitty horror movies with the shitty villain who apparently dies at the end but right before credits you HEEAR THEIR VOICE SPOOKY THEY'RE BAACK NEW VICTIMS!!!1111
[QUOTE=Blind Lulu;51296584]As someone who watch Cloverfield Lane, the answer is yes.[/QUOTE]
except the rest of the film is just as good as it'll ever be, the ending doesn't change that
i think an ending CAN ruin a film, but i think 90% of the time, that's not the case
[QUOTE=Stolons;51295890]I immediately thought of snowpiercer, the ending leaves a sour feeling.[/QUOTE]
It was a long time ago I made an in-depth analyze of the movie, but here's a short one.
(Everyone has a different opinion on what the movie meant, please share yours)
[URL="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1706620/"]Snowpiercer[/URL] spoiler:
[SP]It was a brilliant ending, that explained the entire previous collapse of an endless man made system. "We do this to save man kind", but the ending tells us that man kind can go back to square one, into its natural habitat and live a far more pure life cycle, that is well balanced with the world. The ice bear is a metaphor for survival in harsh environments, and the two children that was left alive, are representing Adam and Eve, the beginning of life > because life moves on. Even their clothing remind us of humans during the ice age. The system we so relied on in order to live, was a false image of life. Either you stay in the background with the man made system, and feel imprisoned, and yet alive within the comfort zone; or you take a leap of faith and go into the wild and live a true free life, and it's the viewers job to make up their mind what the right choice is. This movie has a very strong symbolism, and you have to re-watch it over and over again, and I've yet not understood the 'fish & axe' scene. tl;dr the train is society and we fight for freedom, but is it worth it?[/SP]
Open endings also ruing movies/series for me.
Especially worse in animes nowadays when there is just an incomplete light novel as source material.
Obviously doesn't happen that often in film but it is still annoying.
Cut to black endings kill me on the inside.
I will never know what happened to Tony Soprano on that diner.
[sp]Yes, I know it is heavily implied he gets shot and dies instantly. I just wish we could have seen it. I still don't consider it a bad ending, just slightly disappointing.[/sp]
film that comes to mind, I enjoyed all the way through but the last 25-35 minutes ruined was Edge of Tomorrow
The ending of this editorial was ruined by the fact that Black Nerd Comedy is going to be in the next review
[QUOTE=The bird Man;51297548]It was a long time ago I made an in-depth analyze of the movie, but here's a short one.
(Everyone has a different opinion on what the movie meant, please share yours)[/QUOTE]
Snowpiercer was a fun ride and enjoyable up until the ending that felt like a giant "fuck you it was all for nothing." There was a lot of symbolism especially with the arm for the kid in the story the MC was telling and what happened towards the end but I could care less about that now, one man's selfish act sent the fan spreading shit everywhere. It could've been better, they could've made it work. ([SP]the MC controlling the train could have changed everything for the better, why should all of humanity die for a little kid? (I really doubt two kids who spent their entire lives in a train could survive in the wilderness)[/SP]) I'm very disappointed in the ending, that's why for NaNoWriMo one of my short stories will be an alternate ending for snowpiercer.
Splice is a good example.
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;51298402]The ending of this editorial was ruined by the fact that Black Nerd Comedy is going to be in the next review[/QUOTE]
What are you talking? All i saw was just a lamp.
man i dont care about endings at all as long as i have fun before it
i pretty much never even finish games or series, the first few hours is enough to be satisfied tbh
[QUOTE=Stolons;51298543]Snowpiercer was a fun ride and enjoyable up until the ending that felt like a giant "fuck you it was all for nothing." There was a lot of symbolism especially with the arm for the kid in the story the MC was telling and what happened towards the end but I could care less about that now, one man's selfish act sent the fan spreading shit everywhere. It could've been better, they could've made it work. ([SP]the MC controlling the train could have changed everything for the better, why should all of humanity die for a little kid? (I really doubt two kids who spent their entire lives in a train could survive in the wilderness)[/SP]) I'm very disappointed in the ending, that's why for NaNoWriMo one of my short stories will be an alternate ending for snowpiercer.[/QUOTE]
But the whole point was [sp]that if Chris Evans took over the train, made the back the front and the front the back like was planned, he'd just be perpetuating the cycle that had been going on for at least a generation. By instead choosing to derail the train, they broke the cycle of oppression once and for all.[/sp]
[editline]3rd November 2016[/editline]
Also did you miss the whole thing with [sp]the train being a flawed, unsustainable system? They'd already ran out of replacement parts for some components and resorted to using human beings as makeshift repairs because otherwise the train would stop running. It was going to fail at some point anyway, regardless of who was ruling it.[/sp]
An ending can ruin a film in several ways.
If it's a story-focused film, the ending is absolutely crucial. It needs to do a good job of dealing with any loose ends to wrap the story. Otherwise you'll gradually become aware of all those loose ends as soon as the credits start rolling and the movie will start falling apart in your head. If you're watching with the expectation that things are going to be resolved (for better or for worse) and the film just handwaves problems away or does some other retarded shit with its conclusion you're going to feel robbed.
And as said in the video the ending can also be terrible in terms of themes. If the film has some sort of message, the ending going against it really fucks up the whole thing. At worst you'll end up with a twisted and flipped message, at best you'll have a confusing film that contradicts itself.
Finally, having one [I]really[/I] bad part (whether it's at the ending or anywhere else) is a pretty big flaw in general. If you've already seen the movie, the bad part being the ending is probably the worst case because there's nothing afterwards so you're just waiting for it to end.
LOTR ROTK, for me. It's not ruined by a long chalk, but the film ends ... and it keeps on ending for half hour.
It remains the only film i liked to have outstay it's welcome.
Critic is so good when he's not doing those shitty skits.
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