Because it was the moment that defined this century?
it was going to be a new millennium
It started the War on Terror, sparked the invasion of Iraq and Afganistan, spurred the US government to pass the PATRIOT act, and indirectly led to the rise of ISIS.
9/11 is pretty much irrelevant at this point /s
Well in the UK we still "remember" the 5 November 1605, so you might have a long way to go yet, America
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[QUOTE=smurfy;48656158]Well in the UK we still "remember" the 5 November 1605, so you might have a long way to go yet, America[/QUOTE]
Hah, Catholics.
I'm just gonna watch the thread.
A shit storm will occur on it because someone will mention something that someone else thinks is wrong and it spirals downward.
To be perfectly frank; 9/11 severely crippled the optimism(even if faltering) that we had during the 90s. Its the equvilant of we just started rebuilding our sand castle and then the ocean decided a larger wave then normal was required and took it out.
America constantly goes through these "invincibility" cycles where we think we're awesome and even get pompous until something fucks us up. The first thing I think of to roughly equate to this catastrophe in certain aspects was the Great Depression.
I think the title of this video is dumb, the actual content is about right but man, what a bad title. It immediately makes the video sound like an anti-911 memorial sort of thing.
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;48656042]Because it was the moment that defined this century?[/QUOTE]
I'd also add that it has to do with the fact that such a huge, century defining moment happened during the advent of another huge century defining thing. The Internet.
[QUOTE=Swilly;48656197]I'm just gonna watch the thread.
A shit storm will occur on it because someone will mention something that someone else thinks is wrong and it spirals downward.
To be perfectly frank; 9/11 severely crippled the optimism(even if faltering) that we had during the 90s. Its the equvilant of we just started rebuilding our sand castle and then the ocean decided a larger wave then normal was required and took it out.[/QUOTE]
It is really sad now that you mention it that way. Things could have been utopian like had the events of the past 14 years taken place.
The world (yes, not just America) was directly defined today in light of 9/11. Downplay it as much as you want but you know that 9/11 was the catalyst to today, for better or worse.
I'd go so far as say it was another turning point in human history.
[QUOTE=Binladen34;48656901]It is really sad now that you mention it that way. Things could have been utopian like had the events of the past 14 years taken place.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, real sad Binladen. [IMG]http://i61.tinypic.com/1j1a1u.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Svinnik;48656156]It started the War on Terror, sparked the invasion of Iraq and Afganistan, spurred the US government to pass the PATRIOT act, and indirectly led to the rise of ISIS.
9/11 is pretty much irrelevant at this point /s[/QUOTE]
Its relevant because it to some extent lead to all of that.
[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;48656933]The world (yes, not just America) was directly defined today in light of 9/11. Downplay it as much as you want but you know that 9/11 was the catalyst to today, for better or worse.
I'd go so far as say it was another turning point in human history.[/QUOTE]
It's amazing when you go back and think of all the moments in history that triggered huge changes in the world in general.
WWI introduced Industialized Warfare, and made the last century line battles with muskets look like a children's game compared to the brutal Chemical and Trench Warfare in Western Europe. With that war we got new machines like combustion engine driven armored cars, tanks and tank warfare, and the arming of Airplanes and the start of Dogfighting.
Then the Great Depression happened, suddenly the entire world faced a bust never seen before. Millions of jobs were lost, and with the advent of Communism shortly before it happened, fears flared up that the now disgruntled workers could be swayed by Communist tenants and cause uprisings throughout the planet. The Great Depression itself would be the main fuel that would drive Hitler into power to bring Germany back into tip top shape, and drive any communist ideas out.
World War II changed the second half of the 20th century. WWI got out of the trenches and into a conflict that would literallry span almost the entire globe. In the Pacific, fights were fought between the fanatical Japanese, guerilla tribals and rebels from Pacific/Asian nations under Japanese control and allied with the angry Americans wanting revenge for Pearl Harbour (the original 9/11). And over in Europe a fight against a monsterous facist regime between the allies of the west, and the brutal Russians of the east, the Eastern Front being infamous for how brutal it was on both sides. The harsh winters, the sieges of Leningrad and Stalingrad are imfamous war stories today, as well as the destructive Battle of Berlin, in which the city itself was nearly razed to the ground. The American's ended the war with the mother of all bombs. It's perfect to say that the moment the bomb in Hiroshima went off, the Cold War started. Also thanks to the Nazis, we got rocket and jet tech.
Speaking of which, the Cold War, easily the most infulential piece of history still in effect today. The fight between America and Soviet Russia for influence onto the globe as after the war they both became major super powers. America ending up rich and militarily powerful, and Russia also militarily powerful and having managed huge land grabs during it's "liberations" of Eastern Europe from a Germany that was split into two. From this periods are plenty of decades that are remembered for how distinct we remember them. The 1950s with it's charming hum drum sitcom-esque lifestyle with the dark undertones of racism and very hostile anti-communist vibes, also the advent of Rock and Roll. The 60s being the complete opposite of the 50s with peace and love, the advent of drug use/lots of sex, and vastly improving upon Rock and Roll with groups like the Beatles, as well as going to the mother fucking moon! The 70s with their disco, advent of electronic music, oil crisis, and the early stages of video gaming. The 80s with all it's movies, Video game crash shortly followed by Nintendo and Mario, as well as the death of Soviet Russia. Finally the 90s, with it's optimism, famous movies and music, TV animation boom, and all the commericals you could have, as well as Bill Clinton and the Internet.
And now 9/11, after 9/11 we had a brief period of anti-Arabic feelings (Yes I watched Mind of Mencia, yes I regret it now in retrospect.), and growing of the internet and gaming culture under the Bush years, which we also feel to this day. The US Government and it's facilities like TSA and CIA seemed more dodgy as they tried whatever they could in the name of security against the possibility of another 9/11. We got the first colored President in American history, and killed the man behind 9/11, Arabia was in constant flux with the Iraq wars, the hunt for terrorists and Osama Bin Laden, and the Arab Spring. And just recently the competion of the World Trade Center's replacement.
God I fucking love History.
[QUOTE=Binladen34;48656901]It is really sad now that you mention it that way. Things could have been utopian like had the events of the past 14 years taken place.[/QUOTE]
It's naive to think this way. A 9/11-type attack by Islamic extremists was destined to happen eventually and then things would have most likely unfolded in the same manner. Iraq would have most likely been invaded regardless of whether it happened or not (hell, Al Gore probably would have done the same had he been elected).
[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;48656933]The world (yes, not just America) was directly defined today in light of 9/11. Downplay it as much as you want but you know that 9/11 was the catalyst to today, for better or worse.
I'd go so far as say it was another turning point in human history.[/QUOTE]
9/11 was the first attack targeting civilian American soil in centuries. It was a significant blow to America.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;48657231]9/11 was the first attack targeting civilian American soil in centuries. It was a significant blow to America.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing[/url]
Well it was the successful one that killed thousands.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;48657231]9/11 was the first attack targeting civilian American soil in centuries. It was a significant blow to America.[/QUOTE]
A signifigant blow to Western Culture as a whole. Pearl Harbor was at the very least a Military base in Hawaii. 9/11 showed all the major powers that if Islamic Terrorists wanted to crash a plane into the WTC in New York, then what would stop then from destroying Sears Tower, Big Ben and Parliment or Buckingham Palace, The Eiffel Tower, Red Square/The Kremlin? After 9/11, all modern cultures felt vulnerable.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;48657115]It's amazing when you go back and think of all the moments in history that triggered huge changes in the world in general.[/QUOTE]
WWI is, in my opinion, the catalyst to the last 100 years. had it not happened, there would have been no:
rise of communism
destabilization of the middle east
WWII
as these last 3 things are the cause of nearly every major event in the 20th century and so far in the 21st century, i feel safe in saying it all started with WWI. which means that you very well could put the blame for it all on gavrilo princip, the man who assassinated archduke franz ferdinand in an act of terror.
very interesting how an initial act of terror kicked off both the new millennium and a new breed of war for both the 20th and 21st centuries
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48657250][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing[/url]
Well it was the successful one that killed thousands.[/QUOTE]
Funny how I forget about this one, especially since it's on my exact birth day.
But a plane crashing into a tower is more noticeable.
Man its weird only thing I can really recall from my childhood was where I was on 9/11.
[QUOTE=Isaac96;48657385]Man its weird only thing I can really recall from my childhood was where I was on 9/11.[/QUOTE]
For me, it changed my entire perspective on the world even in the 3rd grade. I was pretty ignorant to the evils of the world. Everything in the world just seemed right and then that happened. Maybe it was just a coincidence, as that's around the age you start learning about the harsher realities of the world, but it truly felt as though the everything went to shit after that day. Afterwards, nobody was happy and everyone was worried about the economy and terrorism.
I didn't know what terrorism was until 9/11. Previous bombings/etc always struck me as lone wolf evil criminals and nothing more. 9/11 killed my childhood ignorance. I saw how dark the world can be.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;48656280]America constantly goes through these "invincibility" cycles where we think we're awesome and even get pompous until something fucks us up. The first thing I think of to roughly equate to this catastrophe in certain aspects was the Great Depression.[/QUOTE]
I'm just gonna clarify that by this I'm not saying it's a 1:1 scale between both situations, but they're similar in that it had a huge lasting effect on how we acted in response for years to come.
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[QUOTE=OvB;48657456]I didn't know what terrorism was until 9/11. Previous bombings/etc always struck me as lone wolf evil criminals and nothing more. 9/11 killed my childhood ignorance. I saw how dark the world can be.[/QUOTE]
My babysitter who lived in New Jersey and regularly switched off to New York because of how crazy his childhood was picked me up from school early that day. I was super young watching the news with him, asking "What happened to your home?" I don't remember his word-for-word response, but I just remember he was trying to smile it off and say something like, "I don't know, crazy things happen man. We'll figure it out."
[QUOTE=Isaac96;48657385]Man its weird only thing I can really recall from my childhood was where I was on 9/11.[/QUOTE]
Seriously? Is that the only thing you can recall from your childhood?
I can remember huge amounts of stuff from my childhood e.g. the teachers I had each year, the room I was in each year at school, the other kids (I could probably name most of them if I were shown a school photo), TV and movies I watched (and where I watched them), toys, books, holidays etc.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;48656711]I think the title of this video is dumb, the actual content is about right but man, what a bad title. It immediately makes the video sound like an anti-911 memorial sort of thing.[/QUOTE]
all you had to do was remove the question mark
what a tragic mistake
As the years go by, future generations are just going to care less and less about 9/11. Not saying that that's a good thing, but that's what happens. Just look at Pearl Harbor. It was a similar national tragedy with a death toll was pretty close to 9/11. But because it's been almost 75 years, most WWII veterans have passed away and most people feel disconnected from the event because they weren't even born yet.
Give it 50 years and 9/11 will be viewed in the same way. National tragedy that is recognized as such, though most of the American population (and maybe world population) will just not care.
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;48660139]As the years go by, future generations are just going to care less and less about 9/11. Not saying that that's a good thing, but that's what happens. Just look at Pearl Harbor. It was a similar national tragedy with a death toll was pretty close to 9/11. But because it's been almost 75 years, most WWII veterans have passed away and most people feel disconnected from the event because they weren't even born yet.
Give it 50 years and 9/11 will be viewed in the same way. National tragedy that is recognized as such, though most of the American population (and maybe world population) will just not care.[/QUOTE]
The entire video disassembles the concept that 9/11 = Pear Harbor
In fact, the whole point of the video is to explain how we're still hyped up about it 14 years after the fact where as we "got over" Pear Harbor after 1945.
I guess the title of the video shouldn't be "why is 9/11 so relevant" but "why aren't Americans getting over 9/11".
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