[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpZtX32sKVE[/media]
Warning: It's a quite a long video.
If he speaks that fast for an hour, god damn.
I is not goin 2 college neway
Did this seem biased to anyone else?
College won't guarantee you a job but it will help you get one. Also I don't think college is that expensive in Canada.
Sup! [IMG]http://www.interject.dk/assets/images/Denmark.png[/IMG] Denmark Free College!
And we get paid for it xD
Even though college racks up a lot of debt I still believe in today's society it is pretty much needed in order to get a decent job.
Edit: Love how this switches half-way through from College is bad to USD is going to collapse New World Order nonsense.
[QUOTE]Gerald Celente[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure I want to watch the rest of this.
Wow. That was kind of hilarious.
Yes, colleges are expensive and the education you get isn't really worth a damn unless you can actually do something with it. But this is just blatant propaganda.
For fuck sake look at the end.
College is not the be all end all of learning. You should go to college if and only if you [B]want to learn[/B]. Not to get a job. Not so you can make more money.
Guess what, if you really want to make money all you need to do is think of something really innovative and spend the time and money you would have put into an education into developing that.
So yes, the video is right about some things, but in the end it's one big hour-long zeitgeisty commercial.
I've seen this Gerald Celente guy before. He has 20x as much as angst a 16 year old goth kid. He makes a few good points whenever I see him in videos like this, but the entire time he talks, he constantly tries to make the government some evil cloning company.
I've never read this magazine or whatever he makes, but it's probably filled with bitching about the government.
All the people interviewed seemed like idiots who didn't plan ahead, or people who didn't attend college and want to justify it.
[QUOTE=T1dal;29827433]If he speaks that fast for an hour, god damn.[/QUOTE]
he wasn't even speaking fast
This is from the NIA.
I subscribed to their newsletter after watching a video a while back about how shitty the US is. Ever since, it's been filled with stupid bullshit conspiracies.
For many, college is an extension of high school. Knowing this, institutions have expanded their offered classes not to teach, but to keep kids interested, and keep their parents paying.
I know very few college grads who work in the industry that they chose to study. The few that I know who do are very well paid, however.
Whether that is do to college or their own determination and skill, now that's a different story, but I will say it has a lot to do with it.
In short this comes down to "yes", college is a scam to some degree, and takes a mature or driven student to use it correctly.
No porn class for you.
Alternative way to cheat the system. Get close, or have family high up in a company\government, and you're set.
Just because of my father and uncle I can easily become a state trooper, or fly for the USAF.
I do agree with one of the points they said, our Government needs to get OUT of the education business.
Finished watching it and I really think a person interested in american higher education would be better off living as a tribesman in some forest than going through this bullshit of a system - ending up, better off.
[QUOTE=T1dal;29827433]If he speaks that fast for an hour, god damn.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like he's speaking normally for me to be honest, maybe that's just where I'm from.
[QUOTE=Unreliable;29829773]I do agree with one of the points they said, our Government needs to get OUT of the education business.[/QUOTE]
And what will replace it? Completely free form private interests? That will more often than not drive their own specific viewpoints across, completely disallow the poor any education access and who knows what else.
I find it funny how the people who tend to tell you that you are brainwashed to think "their" way wish to only drive their own way of thinking across.
Plus it's fair to note that with the educational inflation you really are starting to need some kind of degree, any kind of degree to get a decent job.
It's not due to the quality or unquality of the education but because you essentially got an explosion of low requirement colleges. Which in turn artificially drive the degree amount which in turn necessitates the need for a degree in the first place. Sadly it's circural but so it is. Obviously there's still low quality colleges and high quality ones with a certain prestige which are going to light a few bulbs on any CV.
Still when going for a college education I personally think that fairly a third are in some ways meh. The ones to go for are sciences, medicine and related fields as well as law.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;29830291]And what will replace it? Completely free form private interests? That will more often than not drive their own specific viewpoints across, completely disallow the poor any education access and who knows what else.
I find it funny how the people who tend to tell you that you are brainwashed to think "their" way wish to only drive their own way of thinking across.[/QUOTE]
I don't want to have 100k of student debt to pay off that keeps increasing each year because of inflation and not being able to make the monthly payments. My passion has been music, and you don't make big bucks if you're not adopted by a record label where you make music and they sell it. Even then, you make little profit now with itunes allowing $0.99 downloads, you can only make money from touring and playing at small venues every night. I'd be lucky to even become a house band.
I also have to agree with one other point, if everyone in America has a college degree, it won't be worth that much later on.
I don't even want to major in music anymore because if I learn too much about it, I might just end up hating it. I've got my own style and I don't want a teacher telling me specifically how to play something. Creative pursuits should be taught in a Socrates style manner. Formulating your own ideas based on questions or insight from others.
this is why i live in Canada
[QUOTE=Unreliable;29830518]I don't want to have 100k of student debt to pay off that keeps increasing each year because of inflation and not being able to make the monthly payments. My passion has been music, and you don't make big bucks if you're not adopted by a record label where you make music and they sell it. Even then, you make little profit now with itunes allowing $0.99 downloads, you can only make money from touring and playing at small venues every night. I'd be lucky to even become a house band.
[b] I also have to agree with one other point, if everyone in America has a college degree, it won't be worth that much later on. [/b]
I don't even want to major in music anymore because if I learn too much about it, I might just end up hating it. I've got my own style and I don't want a teacher telling me specifically how to play something. Creative pursuits should be taught in a Socrates style manner. Formulating your own ideas based on questions or insight from others.[/QUOTE]
No a degree in the future will still be worth something. The more people that have degrees, the more it makes you (without a degree) look shitty compared to the rest when competing for a job.
Fuck yeah who needs a college degree to be a theoretical physicist
You need money to make money...
All I can say is that, while this is blatant propaganda. I actually do think College is ruining my life.
I've never had test anxiety before, now I'm seeing a therapist once a week to work on what just suddenly materialized.
My depression is seeping back in and fucking with my sleep.
The fact I'm pretty much government property now doesn't make me feel any better either.
I'm not going to say its a wasted effort, I just want to see colleges actually cut their damn costs.
It's not so much about the degree as much as it is the portfolio and connections you have.
This was made by Dale from KOTH.
[QUOTE=Swilly;29832510]All I can say is that, while this is blatant propaganda. I actually do think College is ruining my life.
I've never had test anxiety before, now I'm seeing a therapist once a week to work on what just suddenly materialized.
My depression is seeping back in and fucking with my sleep.
The fact I'm pretty much government property now doesn't make me feel any better either.
I'm not going to say its a wasted effort, I just want to see colleges actually cut their damn costs.[/QUOTE]
You'll be fine. Don't stress yourself too much thinking about it.
[QUOTE=camacazie638;29832783]It's not so much about the degree as much as it is the portfolio and connections you have.[/QUOTE]
What I said, know the right people and you can go anywhere in life
[QUOTE=Binladen34;29833198]What I said, know the right people and you can go anywhere in life[/QUOTE]
And you're paying about 27 thousand dollars to get to know the right people?
[QUOTE=Swilly;29833246]And you're paying about 27 thousand dollars to get to know the right people?[/QUOTE]
Or you could just sorta..... know them in the first place.
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