• Cockroach gives birth while being devoured by fire ants
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[video=youtube;0qF5_P2e_T0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qF5_P2e_T0[/video]
Jesus fucking christ, that was disturbing to watch.
This is like the equivalent of giving birth to triplets whilst at the same time getting viciously mauled by coyotes. Poor cockroach mama. :cry:
This was all over my recommended lists. They won't go away.
Oh, so that's why when you step on a cockroach (or kill them via common poison traps) there's a high chance you'll find their fucking larvae/egg sacks sticking out of them, it's automatic. Amazing, if fucking disgusting, survival mechanism.
i think the thread title + thumbnail is enough for me, thanks but i'm good.
This guy's narration is really annoying, but what a cool thing to catch on camera. Poor baby cockroaches.
The miracle of life :smile:
The comments are fucking amazing. Some people are actually calling this animal abuse :v:
If this guy feels bad about feeding the ants live cockroaches, he must have some sleepless nights having served them a roach family buffet.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;51104457]This guy's narration is really annoying, but what a cool thing to catch on camera. Poor baby cockroaches.[/QUOTE] He comes off as super pretentious.
When i said kill it with fire.........this isn't quite what i meant.
[QUOTE=Hogie bear;51104482]He comes off as super pretentious.[/QUOTE] I was thinking the same thing, I don't really get what he's getting so worked up over and the fact he keeps going "I kill them before feeding" is just annoying, they're ants, you're meant to give them live prey, its both good and natural for them, sure it could be considered cruel that you're dooming an animal or insect to a fate of feed but that animal or insect was bred to be food and anything that its carrying is also food, its no different to what we do with pigs or cattle so he's making a big thing over nothing and really comes off as a OMG!!! LOOK AT THIS!!! for views thing. Basically skip 7/8 of the video and its interesting, otherwise its just some idiot crying over spilt milk.
[QUOTE=SnakeHead;51104463]The comments are fucking amazing. Some people are actually calling this animal abuse :v:[/QUOTE] Well the author brought it upon himself, what with the amount of guilt he expressed over disgusting vermin. Insects aren't even capable of experiencing 'pain' as we know it.
This guy is really annoying. I recommend muting it and playing music over it.
Saw someone ask a question I wanted to ask and [t]http://i.imgur.com/rglwh0m.png[/t]
This was amazing to watch. Fuck cockroaches. :v:
[QUOTE=gudman;51104540]Well the author brought it upon himself, what with the amount of guilt he expressed over disgusting vermin. Insects aren't even capable of experiencing 'pain' as we know it.[/QUOTE] It does cause them visible distress. In the end we have no way to know what they experience.
Why is the guy in the video [I]so[/I] dramatic? It's just a cockroach, FFS.
[QUOTE=Dr.C;51104545]This guy is really annoying. I recommend muting it and playing music over it.[/QUOTE] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2WH8mHJnhM[/media]
[QUOTE=gudman;51104540]Well the author brought it upon himself, what with the amount of guilt he expressed over disgusting vermin. Insects aren't even capable of experiencing 'pain' as we know it.[/QUOTE] A functionalist would disagree with you and say any biological programming that alarms an organism that their life is in danger and causes a stress like reaction is functionally the same as pain.
[QUOTE=Reagy;51104529]I was thinking the same thing, I don't really get what he's getting so worked up over and the fact he keeps going "I kill them before feeding" is just annoying, they're ants, you're meant to give them live prey, its both good and natural for them, sure it could be considered cruel that you're dooming an animal or insect to a fate of feed but that animal or insect was bred to be food and anything that its carrying is also food, its no different to what we do with pigs or cattle so he's making a big thing over nothing and really comes off as a OMG!!! LOOK AT THIS!!! for views thing. Basically skip 7/8 of the video and its interesting, otherwise its just some idiot crying over spilt milk.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Hogie bear;51104482]He comes off as super pretentious.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;51104457]This guy's narration is really annoying, but what a cool thing to catch on camera. Poor baby cockroaches.[/QUOTE] I don't really get why you guys feel this way. I'd feel guilty too if I saw this happening as a result of my own doing, but then again, that's why I don't have an ant farm or a pet that requires me to feed them live prey. I sympathized with what he's saying and his commentary wasn't annoying to me, but it was mostly background noise as I was so fascinated with what was going on in the video. [QUOTE=Pretiacruento;51104690]Why is the guy in the video [I]so[/I] dramatic? It's just a cockroach, FFS.[/QUOTE] I think it's less about the cockroach, and more about the mortality of the situation. Watching a creature being eaten alive, while its babies are being forcibly removed due a survival mechanism just to be devoured themselves? It's pretty morbid.
Why is this on every single person's recommended videos list?
[QUOTE=Talishmar;51104689]It does cause them visible distress. In the end we have no way to know what they experience.[/QUOTE] But we have a way of knowing what they 'experience' - we have biology for that. Of course it does cause them distress, they [b]do[/b] have nerves. However, their nervous system is very basic, they lack a centre in their brain that is responsible for registering these signals, "pain" basically prompts a direct response, it's a reflex. They don't suffer, they just react to damage. You could say that it's basically the same with animals, but our complex brains process and 'interpret' these signals, causing us to feel discomfort that we feel, prompting us to change behaviour patterns. Insects, in comparison, are just advanced machines, their nervous system doesn't process anything, there's nothing in between "cause" and "reaction". [QUOTE=Aztec;51104718]A functionalist would disagree with you and say any biological programming that alarms an organism that their life is in danger and causes a stress like reaction is functionally the same as pain.[/QUOTE] Functionally - yes. But that's very superficial and doesn't take into account the vast differences in ways that these functions are implemented in different organisms. If we bring down the definition of "pain" to such a level, then computer programs capable of registering anomalies in their codes and informing the user also experience pain. Functionally there's no difference.
I was actually talking about the really bad "WOW! LOOK AT THAT, GUYS!" acting mostly :v: Then he started getting all pretentious and weird with shit like "MAYBE WE HUMANS DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PLAY GOD" just because he felt bad. I just stopped the video at that point.
[QUOTE=Talishmar;51104689]It does cause them visible distress. In the end we have no way to know what they experience.[/QUOTE] Cockroaches, and insects in general, dont have complex enough brains or nervous systems to feel pain. They know their legs are getting ripped off and they know thats bad and they should gtfo, but they dont feel anything. [editline]25th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=gudman;51104442]Oh, so that's why when you step on a cockroach (or kill them via common poison traps) there's a high chance you'll find their fucking larvae/egg sacks sticking out of them, it's automatic. Amazing, if fucking disgusting, survival mechanism.[/QUOTE] Iirc that egg sack is called an uthecae or something like that, and theyll eject it if they scared. I do pest control for a living and when i go into a restaurant or house to spray for them and move something theyre hiding under, the females will just eject their egg sack and high tail it. Pretty funny to watch honestly. [editline]25th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Aztec;51104718]A functionalist would disagree with you and say any biological programming that alarms an organism that their life is in danger and causes a stress like reaction is functionally the same as pain.[/QUOTE] Nope. Stress is not the same as pain.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;51104780]Iirc that egg sack is called an uthecae or something like that, and theyll eject it if they scared. I do pest control for a living and when i go into a restaurant or house to spray for them and move something theyre hiding under, the females will just eject their egg sack and high tail it. Pretty funny to watch honestly.[/QUOTE] Well, I guess people who do pest control for a living have some idea of things that are "funny to watch". I myself am just desensitized to this kind of stuff, I used to own a small python that had to be fed mice.
[QUOTE=gudman;51104540]Well the author brought it upon himself, what with the amount of guilt he expressed over disgusting vermin. Insects aren't even capable of experiencing 'pain' as we know it.[/QUOTE] Except cockroaches aren't really a vector for diseases like mosquitoes or ticks, and only a few species actually regularly enter human housing.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;51104780]Nope. Stress is not the same as pain.[/QUOTE] I never said it was. What are you talking about? Pain induces stress. Stress is a reaction to pain designed to change your behavior. In functionalism, any reaction that occurs which functions the same as another reaction is functionally the same. The same way a calculator, an abacus, and a slide rule are completely different from each other but carry out the same function. Or how 5 syntactically different program methods can functionally perform the exact same task. Saying something "doesn't feel bad" is subjective. Bad is an experience designed to change behavior. If cockroaches didn't feel bad, they would never avoid danger, and they would go extinct. Sorry that my reply to you wasn't as short, simple, and condescending.
[QUOTE=Dr. Kyuros;51104812]Except cockroaches aren't really a vector for diseases like mosquitoes or ticks, and only a few species actually regularly enter human housing.[/QUOTE] yeah if you've got roaches in your house they're usually just trying to find water or get out of the cold. they're not aggressive, they carry no diseases, and they're generally all beneficial to their environment.
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