• Why you should put on your oxygen mask first
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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUfF2MTnqAw&[/media] [sp]I don't want to die :) *wink*[/sp]
Hypoxia is really scary. Here's a related video I saw a while back: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcvkjfG4A_M[/media] It makes you so stupid you don't know you're stupid. Then you die.
damn that was honestly kind of chilling
Kinda makes me think of the movie Everest.
This reminds me of that kid that they found stowed away on the landing gear of the commercial airliner in California to Hawaii a year or two ago, and how lucky he was to be alive, not just from hypoxia alone.
Another fantastic video by Dustin. Never realised hypoxia could take hold so quickly and totally.
One of the most kindest deaths there are.
I did the same physiological training down in oklahoma city with the FAA. i was able to about 4.5 minutes before I put my mask on. the purpose of the training is to experience what it's like to undergo hypoxia and to understand what your specific symptoms are. mine happened to be hot flashes and INTENSE sweating. i was also told i showed my pulse oximeter every few seconds or so. we only went to about 25,000 ft or so which gives a useful consciousness of ~5 minutes. Time of useful consciousness at higher altitudes can come down to like 5 seconds. it's pretty crazy. here's the video of my trip [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0Xjv_Lfw94[/media] the last section of the training was the most interesting to me. it's really weird not noticing you're losing parts of your eyesight until you're back on oxygen.
[video=youtube_share;_IqWal_EmBg]http://youtu.be/_IqWal_EmBg[/video] "Unable to control altitude, unable to control airspeed, unable to control heading. Other than that, everything is A-OK!"
he was so oxygen deprived he wasnt even even aware enough to put it back on now thats some scary shit
When he has the helmet on, he looks a lot like J-ROC
[QUOTE=sourcegamer101;50757103]he was so oxygen deprived he wasnt even even aware enough to put it back on now thats some scary shit[/QUOTE] Amazing, isn't it? In an actual emergency, he would have sat there and just watched himself die. He might even have been happy to do it.
[QUOTE=Carnotite;50757180]Amazing, isn't it? In an actual emergency, he would have sat there and just watched himself die. He might even have been happy to do it.[/QUOTE] you wouldn't even become aware of it. he was about a minute away from passing out. once you lose consciousness it's over. the feeling of undergoing hypoxia is like getting drunk.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;50755697]Hypoxia is really scary. Here's a related video I saw a while back: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcvkjfG4A_M[/media] It makes you so stupid you don't know you're stupid. Then you die.[/QUOTE] Offtopic but in this video the narrator says "It appears like the perfect method of execution." I don't support the death penalty, but why don't we execute criminals this way? Why use extremely expensive drugs.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;50758097]Offtopic but in this video the narrator says "It appears like the perfect method of execution." I don't support the death penalty, but why don't we execute criminals this way? Why use extremely expensive drugs.[/QUOTE] Oklahoma does whenever the lethal injection method isn't available. [url]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/17/oklahoma-nitrogen-execution-method-death-penalty[/url] Actually you can any inert gas as a substitute since it does the same thing. It replaces the oxygen in your lungs with nothing so within 10 seconds you're dead, and it doesn't even feel like you're choking.
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;50758320]Oklahoma does whenever the lethal injection method isn't available. [url]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/17/oklahoma-nitrogen-execution-method-death-penalty[/url] Actually you can any inert gas as a substitute since it does the same thing. It replaces the oxygen in your lungs with nothing so within 10 seconds you're dead, and it doesn't even feel like you're choking.[/QUOTE] That's actually a big hazard to those who do TIG welding, if you're not careful Argon can build up in your lungs and its hard to get out because of the density vs air.
That's fucking terrifying how things can seem completely normal throughout the ordeal from your own perspective, but the reality is your awareness is slowly slipping away. It's so contrary to survival instincts.
The "I don't want to die" while smiling like a lunatic was pretty damned chilling.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;50758097]Offtopic but in this video the narrator says "It appears like the perfect method of execution." I don't support the death penalty, but why don't we execute criminals this way? Why use extremely expensive drugs.[/QUOTE] The only argument I've heard against it, which is one I really don't agree with, is that it's "too nice" to let criminals die happy/euphorically.
[QUOTE=Chinook249;50756677][video=youtube_share;_IqWal_EmBg]http://youtu.be/_IqWal_EmBg[/video] "Unable to control altitude, unable to control airspeed, unable to control heading. Other than that, everything is A-OK!"[/QUOTE] So what happen here? Did they lower altitude to fly through thicker atmosphere?
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;50758097]Offtopic but in this video the narrator says "It appears like the perfect method of execution." I don't support the death penalty, but why don't we execute criminals this way? Why use extremely expensive drugs.[/QUOTE] Well, actually that's from a documentary about alternative methods of execution - iirc the host is a former legislator, who was actually wondering about that exact thing. [editline]23rd July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Kidd;50760252]So what happen here? Did they lower altitude to fly through thicker atmosphere?[/QUOTE] They lowered the altitude to 11000 feet, which was enough for the pilot to regain control. Apparently he flew the plane by hand while being hypoxic, it's honestly a miracle that they got him to do so.
[QUOTE=Dr.C;50757154]When he has the helmet on, he looks a lot like J-ROC[/QUOTE] "You wanna have ya oxygen on at all times inis maaafacka. No one wanna get killed from oxygen deprevities, naa sayin'?"
obligatory [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY7fODFm3P8[/media]
[QUOTE=Chinook249;50756677][video=youtube_share;_IqWal_EmBg]http://youtu.be/_IqWal_EmBg[/video] "Unable to control altitude, unable to control airspeed, unable to control heading. Other than that, everything is A-OK!"[/QUOTE] I find it really impressive of that pilot that he was able to actually give answers to the flight controllers like that despite suffering from hypoxia. Really impressive.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;50758097]Offtopic but in this video the narrator says "It appears like the perfect method of execution." I don't support the death penalty, but why don't we execute criminals this way? Why use extremely expensive drugs.[/QUOTE] Watch the documentary [URL="http://www.documentarytube.com/videos/how-to-kill-a-human-being-2"]How to Kill a Human Being[/URL]. It's what this clip is from. [editline]23rd July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=ZestyLemons;50759102]The only argument I've heard against it, which is one I really don't agree with, is that it's "too nice" to let criminals die happy/euphorically.[/QUOTE] You get rated funny but that is exactly the reason execution by hypoxia isn't done. There is a very real belief in the justice system, and American culture in general, that prison and the death penalty are for retribution.
That was actually pretty scary
Unfortunately, many hypoxia related air incidents don't end in stabilization: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLN5D4lOlos[/media] [media]https://youtu.be/QN-jbv_iSVw[/media]
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;50760706] They lowered the altitude to 11000 feet, which was enough for the pilot to regain control. Apparently he flew the plane by hand while being hypoxic, it's honestly a miracle that they got him to do so.[/QUOTE] If you ask me that's probably what kept him from passing out. Even with autopilot on someone still needs to be awake. With the autopilot off and him taking the helm by hand, while extremely dangerous with his state of mine, it probably kept his brain occupied enough to enable him to request a vector to a lower altitude.
Holy shit he didn't even have the awareness to put his own mask on at that point.
Something people won't tell you is Kids/peds will probably not tolerate this well at all. Kids like to desate scary quick, and once they desat down past the 70s its bad, Onces theyre in the 50s, its a code blue situation if you can't vent them back up in a few seconds. it takes a lot of efforts to push air into them, and get them back up.(we're talking about hyperventing them with a BVM on high flow O2). A passive face mask will not adequately oxygenate them back fast enough from a hypoxic event. The number one cause of death for pediatrics is respiratory failure for this reason. Thats why if you lose a pediatrics airway, and can't intubate, you should consider a trach way faster than you would on a person (a cant tube, cant vent situation can go on for a few minutes with an adult before you rectify it surgically). Source:Surgical corpsman whose worked on some Pediatric teams. Waking kids up from surgery is the most dangerous part because of their physiology doesn't handle low-sats well. Which is what you would also see in an rapid decompression on a commercial flight. The kids that wouldn't handle this situation well compared to adults are in the 6 months to 4ish age range.
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