Norman Finkelstein - Hezbollah, the Honour of Lebanon
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The same dude here
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=928668[/url]
This guy is amazing.
[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=bDe65-nF3FQ&feature=related[/media]
Great Video.
great video, was a fantastic watch
He's a beast
This guy sure compares Israel to the Nazi's a lot. Even the interviewer thought he was going over the top a bit.
A few things I had a problem with though; If Israel did want to destroy Lebanon, then Hezbollah would be valid. It seems more like Hezbollah considers land in Israel theirs and are resisting to take back land they aren't on. Hezbollahs goal is not to prevent Israel from destroying Lebanon, but to destroy Israel. In this way, they are more like Nazi Germany liberating France from their oppresive govenment.
He also makes many strange statements. The Idea that being at peace with Israel is the equivalent of slavery is absurd. After the cold war ended, the Soviet Union was not a slave to America. After the Napoleonic wars, France had a King but was not a slave to anyone. If the loser is the one on bottom, why isn't America a slave to Vietnam? Peace with Israel is possible because Israel does not wish to completely obliterate all Arab states, just the groups that attack them. If you are rational and don't judge foreign policy by a battlefield, it's pretty easy to see that.
What was that shit he said at the end, Israel needs to suffer a defeat? Humility would be nice but peace with Lebanon is already on the table. What terms does he want?
Finkelstein is the incarnation of butthurt.
I love how Devodiere got rated dumb but nobody posted WHY or tried to refute his argument in any way.
And by the way the guy in the video doesn't know shit.
There are some things he said that I could agree with if he wasn't such a militant dickweed. Yes, there are alternatives to war and if you don't see that then you're no better than militant Israelis OR Arabs.
Remember when Hezbollah was launching rockets at Israeli towns and cities? Those rockets were deadly, but they only burned the pavement. Meanwhile, Israel uses bombs that create huge craters plus they also use white phosphorus; a weapon that burns as hot as the surface of the sun. You don't use that against human beings.
I don't understand why there are weapons that are forbidden. They're ment to kill just like any other, aren't they?
Bwyha? Hitler didn't want war? What? He would've accomplished his goals of taking over Europe (and then the rest of the world) without war... how?
Other than that this guy's argument is pretty solid and I agree with him
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Also never forgive, never forget? Jeez go kill some Romans for killing Jesus, or some Egyptians for expelling Moses then. Or some Germans because of the Holocaust.
You have to let things go [I]at some point.[/I]
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;21705482]Bwyha? Hitler didn't want war? What? He would've accomplished his goals of taking over Europe (and then the rest of the world) without war... how?[/QUOTE]
Maybe it was an unlikely situation, but he meant that Hitler would have much preferred complete surrender of Europe without war.
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;21705482]Also never forgive, never forget? Jeez go kill some Romans for killing Jesus, or some Egyptians for expelling Moses then. Or some Germans because of the Holocaust.
You have to let things go [I]at some point.[/I][/QUOTE]
I don't think a lot of Jews care about Jesus :P Also there are no more Romans or Egyptians in the world (unless you count Italians and modern Egyptians which are completely different things).
Well, Israel has a special secret agency built entirely around catching the Nazis and their collaborators, though today there aren't many left (only neo-Nazis).
This has been posted enough times starpluck. Let it rest.
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;21705482]Bwyha? Hitler didn't want war? What? He would've accomplished his goals of taking over Europe (and then the rest of the world) without war... how?[/QUOTE]
He did say he would have prefered not to utilize force but of course he knew nobody'd give up without a fight.
[QUOTE=Cheezy;21711630]He did say he would have prefered not to utilize force but of course he knew nobody'd give up without a fight.[/QUOTE]
QFT.
He just casually moved into poland and secured alliances with Russia. If he didn't fuck up so much as he did, We would all be under Nazi rule right now.
Interesting to listen to.
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