[Media]https://youtu.be/h-j29ozp_yM[/media]
Here's a short documentary about them :v:
So many wantanabe rs wheels, holy shit.
Japan, always setting the bar higher when it comes to car culture
does this mean japan has a mopar scene now?
It's like I'm watching the last holdout for the shaggin' Wagon.
This also reminds me - the guys from Haggard Garage have a Diesel van
[hd]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS1K6I9z0hw[/hd]
[hd]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E_rxej2cq4[/hd]
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;51097392]This also reminds me - the guys from Haggard Garage have a Diesel van[/QUOTE]
Except the japanese actually make their vans faster, not just smellier and noisier :unimpressed:
When I saw "Dodge Van Racing" in the title, I wasn't expecting a 1990's Dodge Ram Van
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;51097392]This also reminds me - the guys from Haggard Garage have a Diesel van[/QUOTE]
Yeah except the Japanese guys are actually doing it right, not badly tuning a Diesel engine so it doesn't burn correctly and shits out a fuckload of black smoke because they're feeding too much fuel into the mix.
Fuck rolling coal, go tune the engine correctly you douches.
[QUOTE=Reagy;51098727]Yeah except the Japanese guys are actually doing it right, not badly tuning a Diesel engine so it doesn't burn correctly and shits out a fuckload of black smoke because they're feeding too much fuel into the mix.
Fuck rolling coal, go tune the engine correctly you douches.[/QUOTE]
Rolling coal originated in a era where there wasn't much information on how to properly tune diesels.
So they just upped fueling so much the injectors were more or less constantly pissing diesel into the cylinders instead of injecting the precise needed amount at the right time.
Although there is a sort of method behind the madness, since the excessive amount of fuel helps to keep cylinder temperatures down, and thus helps avoiding a worst-case internal meltdown.
To properly tune a diesel, you need to monitor exhaust gas temperature right as it exits the head and enters the exhaust manifold, because too high temperature can roast valves or the pistons (what often happens), and if you want to keep the temperature down as you push the engine hard, invest in a good water&methanol injection kit.
Or if you want a video explanation:
[video=youtube;b18R5ZEKxuc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b18R5ZEKxuc[/video]
[QUOTE=Van-man;51098758]Rolling coal originated in a era where there wasn't much information on how to properly tune diesels.
So they just upped fueling so much the injectors were more or less constantly pissing diesel into the cylinders instead of injecting the precise needed amount at the right time.
Although there is a sort of method behind the madness, since the excessive amount of fuel helps to keep cylinder temperatures down, and thus helps avoiding a worst-case internal meltdown.
To properly tune a diesel, you need to monitor exhaust gas temperature right as it exits the head and enters the exhaust manifold, because too high temperature can roast valves or the pistons (what often happens), and if you want to keep the temperature down as you push the engine hard, invest in a good water&methanol injection kit.
Or if you want a video explanation:[/QUOTE]
I'm aware of where it originated from, it just annoys me when someone takes an electronic fuel injected diesel and just whacks it to pissing fuel instead of actually correctly tuning it, its the mechanical equivalent of making a ricebox fwd car with spoiler that does nothing but slow the car down. No one wants to see it and it really doesn't help the vehicle in the end, if you're going to make more out of an engine, do it right or at least attempt to, I'd rather see an engine puffing a little black smoke instead of shitting it out.
Plus just whacking the injectors fully open doesn't always make more power, most cases it just results in producing even more smoke thanks to unburned fuel which is what most of these jackasses are aiming for.
[QUOTE=Reagy;51098822]I'm aware of where it originated from, it just annoys me when someone takes an electronic fuel injected diesel and just whacks it to pissing fuel instead of actually correctly tuning it, its the mechanical equivalent of making a ricebox fwd car with spoiler that does nothing but slow the car down. No one wants to see it and it really doesn't help the vehicle in the end, if you're going to make more out of an engine, do it right or at least attempt to, I'd rather see an engine puffing a little black smoke instead of shitting it out.
Plus just whacking the injectors fully open doesn't always make more power, most cases it just results in producing even more smoke thanks to unburned fuel which is what most of these jackasses are aiming for.[/QUOTE]
True, I'm just explaining in details the original (intended) purpose, and how to do it correctly.
Watch your EGT, and if going full-retard, get a water+methanol kit, they're actually cheap and easy to use nowadays.
And even with old mechanical diesel, you can tune most of them properly
In that case, it's all about correct pump boost needle (if boosted), and swapping the internals in the injectors (often stiffer springs or shimmed springs, and different injector nozzle needle and nozzle housing)
[QUOTE=Van-man;51098758]Rolling coal originated in a era where there wasn't much information on how to properly tune diesels.
So they just upped fueling so much the injectors were more or less constantly pissing diesel into the cylinders instead of injecting the precise needed amount at the right time.
Although there is a sort of method behind the madness, since the excessive amount of fuel helps to keep cylinder temperatures down, and thus helps avoiding a worst-case internal meltdown.
To properly tune a diesel, you need to monitor exhaust gas temperature right as it exits the head and enters the exhaust manifold, because too high temperature can roast valves or the pistons (what often happens), and if you want to keep the temperature down as you push the engine hard, invest in a good water&methanol injection kit.
Or if you want a video explanation:
[video=youtube;b18R5ZEKxuc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b18R5ZEKxuc[/video][/QUOTE]
Kinda wish this guy was my granpa.
Lol, what am I saying kinda... I want him to be my granpa.
We're one step closer to Hot Wheels's Super Van!
wait... what the fuck, you're the van man!
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;51100117]Kinda wish this guy was my granpa.
Lol, what am I saying kinda... I want him to be my granpa.
We're one step closer to Hot Wheels's Super Van!
wait... what the fuck, you're the van man![/QUOTE]
You're not alone, man.
I want Mr. Banks to be my uncle, and Steve Dinan my dad
[hd]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bkDKqoGSdU[/hd]
I could listen to these two for HOURS.
When do they start doing semi racing?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/gyDl77s.gif[/img]
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