That is seriously one of the most ridiculous ideas I've ever heard. Nearly threw up when he complimented him with, "Your IQ's off the charts..."
Love this guy's videos.
Because there's a point in laying eggs and trying to raise newborns when the world is about to flood?
Hahaha, his IQ is off the charts you say, Which end?
I love how creationist say you shouldn't have "faith" in scientist and then bring on every single person who disagrees with evolution just because they have a degree in something (even though you never heard of him before and never published anything important) and call that proof.
[editline]29th June 2011[/editline]
Yea his IQ is off the charts. Its so low it literally fell off the charts and hit the floor.
creationism is dumb, evolution has been proven. why can't these people just learn
[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;30791761]creationism is dumb, evolution has been proven. why can't these people just learn[/QUOTE]
First of all I agree, Creationism is dumb, but considering the video I'm thinking you don't know what Creationism really is. It's not a bullshit theory, it was a very well thought-out thing which only recently has been disproven (like in the last 3 years).
Second of all Evolution has not been necessarily been 'proven', but it has more than 90% of the scientific community backing it up (which is composed of much smarter people than you or I).
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;30791805]
Second of all Evolution has not been necessarily been 'proven', but it has more than 90% of the scientific community backing it up (which is composed of much smarter people than you or I).[/QUOTE]
Funny thing though, it has, we HAVE observed it, and animals actually adapted to their surroundings (e.g. evolved) while we recorded them.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;30791805]. It's not a bullshit theory[/QUOTE]
Your right its not a theory because a theory needs proof.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;30791805]First of all I agree, Creationism is dumb, but considering the video I'm thinking you don't know what Creationism really is. It's not a bullshit theory, it was a very well thought-out thing which only recently has been disproven (like in the last 3 years).
Second of all Evolution has not been necessarily been 'proven', but it has more than 90% of the scientific community backing it up (which is composed of much smarter people than you or I).[/QUOTE]
Ok now responding to all of it I can see its filled with a lot of fallacies. One being its not the number of scientist who agree its there proof and creationism has never been disproven because its never been proven. It has always been illogical because it is a huge claim with no proof at all to it.
Also I didn't just base my knowledge of creationism on this video.
Dam my automerge.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;30791838]Your right its not a theory because a theory needs proof.[/QUOTE]
That actually made me laugh, thank you good sir.
Seriously though, theories are not made from proof, they are made from [i]observations[/i]. Which was made in the case of Creationism. I'm not defending it, it is truly horseshit, but it seems like you're not getting what this all is.
Unless you are making a joke, in which case you succeeded in getting a chuckle out of me.
[editline]29th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;30791842]Also I didn't just base my knowledge of creationism on this video.[/QUOTE]
That's good to hear, even though that's not what I meant, sorry if I worded it wrong.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;30791885]
Seriously though, theories are not made from proof, they are made from [i]observations[/i][/QUOTE]
Consistent observations that have experiments with repeatable results; Creationism is not a theory because it does not accurately explain why animals evolve over time, while Evolution does.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;30791885]Seriously though, theories are not made from proof, they are made from [i]observations[/i]. Which was made in the case of Creationism. I'm not defending it, it is truly horseshit, but it seems like you're not getting what this all is.
Unless you are making a joke, in which case you succeeded in getting a chuckle out of me.[/QUOTE]
Observations is a type of proof. I just said proof to shorten it. I do know the creationist stance very well since my old bio teacher taught it to us allong side evolution and basically all the arguments are trying to find a hole in evolution (which they never logically could) and then saying since evolution couldn't do this god must have which isn't how science works.
[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;30791932]Consistent observations that have experiments with repeatable results; Creationism is not a theory because it does not accurately explain why animals evolve over time, while Evolution does.[/QUOTE]
Actually it had repeatable observations.
[editline]29th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;30791968]Observations is a type of proof. I just said proof to shorten it. I do know the creationist stance very well since my old bio teacher taught it to us allong side evolution and basically all the arguments are trying to find a hole in evolution (which they never logically could) and then saying since evolution couldn't do this god must have which isn't how science works.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, which is why it's bullshit :v:
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;30791998]Actually it had repeatable observations.
[editline]29th June 2011[/editline]
Exactly, which is why it's bullshit :v:[/QUOTE]
citation needed
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;30791998]Exactly, which is why it's bullshit :v:[/QUOTE]
Well then how could you say it only became bullshit a few years ago if it was always a big claim with no evidence?
Actually, guys, creationism is the natural thing to assume. Animals have been the same ever since I was born, same with my father, and his, and his, and his. So why should I think they changed over time when nothing seems to indicate it?
But then who was fossil records, DNA, embryology, etc. etc.
[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;30792296]Actually, guys, creationism is the natural thing to assume. [/QUOTE]
Doesn't change the fact that it's dumb to assume something based on no knowledge other than your own
[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;30792296]Actually, guys, creationism is the natural thing to assume. Animals have been the same ever since I was born, same with my father, and his, and his, and his. So why should I think they changed over time when nothing seems to indicate it?
But then who was fossil records, DNA, embryology, etc. etc.[/QUOTE]
Not true they have changed in are time period. Fish are getting smaller, birds are getting smarter, bugs are learning to adapt to human toxins, birds are changing beaks and in the microworld germs and viruses are changing faster then ever. In are lifetime we have seen species change. In fact humans are also changing to become taller, to get smaller pinky toes and being better at fighting off types of pathogens.
I know, I was thinking in the pre-medieval epoch man. When you don't have a previous thought about it, you look at what's around you (macroscopic things only, and things you actually notice and can assume are due to evolution) and just see what's more likely.
If I were in that epoch, I probably wouldn't believe in evolution either if I had to choose between both with no knowledge of Darwin's juicy-ass argument.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;30792342]Not true they have changed in are time period. Fish are getting smaller, birds are getting smarter, bugs are learning to adapt to human toxins, birds are changing beaks and in the microworld germs and viruses are changing faster then ever. In are lifetime we have seen species change. In fact humans are also changing to become taller, to get smaller pinky toes and being better at fighting off types of pathogens.[/QUOTE]
I can never tell if you're incredibly fucking stupid or relatively smart.
You never seem to say anything that's blatantly wrong, but for some reason I keep expecting you to say something like "and that's why god is a pedophile".
[editline]30th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;30792447]I know, I was thinking in the pre-medieval epoch man. When you don't have a previous thought about it, you look at what's around you (macroscopic things only, and things you actually notice and can assume are due to evolution) and just see what's more likely.
If I were in that epoch, I probably wouldn't believe in evolution either if I had to choose between both with no knowledge of Darwin's juicy-ass argument.[/QUOTE]
if you were logical you would have been all socrates and gone "shit if i know i piss in the same place i wash"
but that would require people to think logically
Anyone have a link to the video with the boat?
I'd love to see such a miracle of special effects.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;30791805]First of all I agree, Creationism is dumb, but considering the video I'm thinking you don't know what Creationism really is. It's not a bullshit theory, it was a very well thought-out thing which only recently has been disproven (like in the last 3 years).
Second of all Evolution has not been necessarily been 'proven', but it has more than 90% of the scientific community backing it up (which is composed of much smarter people than you or I).[/QUOTE]
Evolution has pretty much been proven and observed. Just look at ring species, perfect example of speciation in the works.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;30791805]First of all I agree, Creationism is dumb, but considering the video I'm thinking you don't know what Creationism really is. It's not a bullshit theory, it was a very well thought-out thing which only recently has been disproven (like in the last 3 years).[/QUOTE]
It couldn't have been very well thought-out if there was absolutely no evidence for it.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;30791805]Second of all Evolution has not been necessarily been 'proven', but it has more than 90% of the scientific community backing it up (which is composed of much smarter people than you or I).[/QUOTE]
It's been confirmed on an micro-scale by observation and by a macro scale in pretty much all fields of biology, what more do you want?
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