Saw this a couple days ago. His closing line summarizes the problem perfectly.
Just one of many problems with the film industry these days
"Fired Up was a hilarious comedy"
Lost me
Luckily here in Canada our ratings aren't shit and are more lenient. Generally I've noticed that say if something is rated R in America(18A here in Canada) it get's rated 14A here. PG-13 in America? PG in Canada.
For example take Schindler's List: the MPAA gave it an R rating yet here in Canada it gets a cool 14A.
Of course this can vary from province to province depending on which of the 5 ratings boards they choose to use. That's about the only silly part so I guess Alberta is lenient at the very least.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_motion_picture_rating_system[/url]
I remember thanking my mum when I was a kid because I was under 13 and she let me watch "Little Genisues" or something
[QUOTE=En-Guage;45896557]I remember thanking my mum when I was a kid because I was under 13 and she let me watch "Little Genisues" or something[/QUOTE]
you fucking masochist, you thanked your mom for letting you watch Baby Geniuses?
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;45896475]Luckily here in Canada our ratings aren't shit and are more lenient. Generally I've noticed that say if something is rated R in America(18A here in Canada) it get's rated 14A here. PG-13 in America? PG in Canada.
For example take Schindler's List: the MPAA gave it an R rating yet here in Canada it gets a cool 14A.
Of course this can vary from province to province depending on which of the 5 ratings boards they choose to use. That's about the only silly part so I guess Alberta is lenient at the very least.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_motion_picture_rating_system[/url][/QUOTE]
I remember this one flim, forgot what it was call, where it got PG rating in Canada, but a R rating in America. Why rated R? Because the protagonist was homosexual.
[QUOTE=gunguy765;45896601]I remember this one flim, forgot what it was call, where it got PG rating in Canada, but a R rating in America. Why rated R? Because the protagonist was homosexual.[/QUOTE]
Brokeback Mountain?
If you want to get even more pissed about ratings, check out "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" (I think it's on Netflix). The system is even more broken than this guy points out.
[QUOTE=timmah638;45896563]you fucking masochist, you thanked your mom for letting you watch Baby Geniuses?[/QUOTE]
And that's how his S&M fetish began.
I'd say this video is only really covering the surface of the problems with the American Ratings system. Problem I find is that there is no formal guidelines as to what is acceptable in each category unlike our British BBFC [URL="http://www.bbfc.co.uk/what-classification/guidelines"]guidelines[/URL] which detail explicitly what is acceptable in each rating. The BBFC over here also have to write a very detailed report dealing with why exactly a certain film or home media release got the rating, and these are made available on their website for whoever to decide whether you would want someone watching it. From what I've heard also is that the appeals board isn't independent at all unlike the BBFCs one which is.
There also appears to be the issue of very lenient rules with regards to ratings. Over here classification restricts viewing at the 15 and 18 ratings (12 rating if its home media). I find it quite shocking that someone could go see the equivalent of an 18 rated film in America as long as they are occupied by an adult.
I think they should just do away with movie ratings and just advertise what the movies contain.
Then let the parents/people decided for themselves if they want to see it. It's pretty stupid to restrict a movie and what it contains based on a rating. Ratings just completely kill any creativity.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;45896475]Luckily here in Canada our ratings aren't shit and are more lenient. Generally I've noticed that say if something is rated R in America(18A here in Canada) it get's rated 14A here. PG-13 in America? PG in Canada.
For example take Schindler's List: the MPAA gave it an R rating yet here in Canada it gets a cool 14A.
Of course this can vary from province to province depending on which of the 5 ratings boards they choose to use. That's about the only silly part so I guess Alberta is lenient at the very least.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_motion_picture_rating_system[/url][/QUOTE]
Rating difference here is all good and well, but the fact that they can completely change a movie annoys me. its really too bad about expendables 3 and robocop loved both those series.
[QUOTE=MR-X;45898473]I think they should just do away with movie ratings and just advertise what the movies contain.[/QUOTE]
You would still need [i]some[/i] kind of standard to prevent advertisers from blatantly lying in order to improve their sales.
[QUOTE=Larikang;45927045]You would still need [i]some[/i] kind of standard to prevent advertisers from blatantly lying in order to improve their sales.[/QUOTE]
People will throw a fit if advertisers lie, that's the standard.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;45896475]Luckily here in Canada our ratings aren't shit and are more lenient. Generally I've noticed that say if something is rated R in America(18A here in Canada) it get's rated 14A here. PG-13 in America? PG in Canada.
For example take Schindler's List: the MPAA gave it an R rating yet here in Canada it gets a cool 14A.
Of course this can vary from province to province depending on which of the 5 ratings boards they choose to use. That's about the only silly part so I guess Alberta is lenient at the very least.
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_motion_picture_rating_system[/URL][/QUOTE]
Despite this, most of all the movies we view here in Canada are American, so even though we may have a better rating system, we'll still get the same dumbed down movies to appeal to a wider audience, because those movies were created with their rating system in mind.
Sums up my sentiments exactly. On one hand you have your coherence as an author and your artistic integrity, on the other hand a product that must reach the widest audience possible, in an oversaturated market.
It is no surprise many decide to give away most of the former to get most of the latter. And that it more often than not result in butchered down fiascos.
[QUOTE=Karmah;45927306]Despite this, most of all the movies we view here in Canada are American, so even though we may have a better rating system, we'll still get the same dumbed down movies to appeal to a wider audience, because those movies were created with their rating system in mind.[/QUOTE]
That's true.
But just to be fair let's take the case of Passchendaele which was made here in Alberta. It's got rated 14A here in Canada and R in America.
And this is what's listed as making it 14A:
-Violence
-Gory Scenes
-Course Language
In America it got an R for "sequences of realistic graphic war violence and sexuality"(pulled from IMDB).
Good movie by the way.
Our society has turned into a bunch pussys. Smokey N' the Bandit is PG and it says Shit, Damnit, Goddamnit, and Son of a bitch like 600 times. I watched that as a kid all the time. Kids and parents these days are so entitled and whiny little pricks that they complain to facebook all day because someone said Fuck more than once. I worked at a movie theater for over 2 years and i hated seeing all these cool movies come in and being watered down to baby shit because of PG-13.
[QUOTE=En-Guage;45896557]I remember thanking my mum when I was a kid because I was under 13 and she let me watch "Little Genisues" or something[/QUOTE]
I remember when I was like 6 and my dad showed me Jaws :v:
Mum was pretty upset when she learnt that.
Here's my rating system that should be implemented
V, L, S, N.
V for Violence, L for Language, S for Sexual content, N for nudity.
You put any letter or letters that apply to your film and [b]LET PEOPLE DECIDE IF IT'S OKAY FOR THEM THEMSELVES[/b]
None of this cut the movie to fit a rating shit, just a simple what it is is what you get. A rating system is subjective anyway, certainly the one we use now, and doesn't give you any idea what's in the film. This way, you know what's in it, and there's no bar that you have to make your movie fit under
You know, I never thought of the whole Janet Jackson Super Bowl thing as the cause of this.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;45928233]Here's my rating system that should be implemented
V, L, S, N.
V for Violence, L for Language, S for Sexual content, N for nudity.
You put any letter or letters that apply to your film and [b]LET PEOPLE DECIDE IF IT'S OKAY FOR THEM THEMSELVES[/b]
None of this cut the movie to fit a rating shit, just a simple what it is is what you get. A rating system is subjective anyway, certainly the one we use now, and doesn't give you any idea what's in the film. This way, you know what's in it, and there's no bar that you have to make your movie fit under[/QUOTE]
This is good, but doesn't include the [I]degree [/I]of Violence, Language, Sex or Nudity. Perhaps give each letter a color rating, like Blue-Green-Yellow-Orange-Red?
If you ever want to look up the rating of a movie I just go on IMDB to see how severe any of the bad stuff is. Since most of the time R rated films aren't even that bad for kids to watch
This really bothers me because we live in a society where churches forbid its members from seeing R rated films. There should be a PG-15 for movies that have a bunch of curse words. Why in the fuck should Good Will Hunting share the same rating as Saw or I Spit On Your Grave (a movie about a woman who gets revenge on her rapists by cutting their dicks off)?
Australia's rating system is probably the best example of how ratings should be done for TV's and movies
[IMG]http://www.nonfictiongaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/ausclass.gif[/IMG]
MA15+ is that rating you give to films which are borderline adult, R is applied automatically if there's sex scenes which are super not appropriate to 15 year olds
G, PG and M are mostly the PG-13 of America, films can still be advertised even if they're R, I remember seeing the Wolf of Wall street get advertised a lot and that was an R rated film
America needs a rating overhaul and perhaps a unified rating system, where games, movies and TV can all be rated under one system instead of multiple and confusing systems/guidelines
[editline]9th September 2014[/editline]
Like honestly if wolf of wallstreet did not include those sex scenes and intense amount of drug use but still retained the 600+ use of the word "fuck", Australia would of slapped it with an MA15+ rating
Also not pictured is X18+, its called the death rating as it can only be sold in territories (which is the NT and ACT), it's illegal to have an X18+ film in the normal states for some reason. X18 is automatically given if the film has un-simulated sex (basically porno)
Why is every industry I love corrupt?
[QUOTE=MedicWine;45929274]Why is every industry I love corrupt?[/QUOTE]
Not really corrupt, just broken and needs serious reforms. Industries want to make big money, the problem is broadcasters and billboard managers not willing to advertise it
So basically, reform the rating system, set up appropriate advertising guidelines for all ratings except the "death rating" (NC-17) and everything should be good
[QUOTE=MedicWine;45929274]Why is every industry I love corrupt?[/QUOTE]
The truly good filmmakers transcend these restrictions and can make a successful, artistic film regardless of rating (i.e. Tarantino, Spielberg, Nolan, Scorsese, etc.)
However this really does suck for filmmakers who are trying to start out and make a name for themselves, since you can only really make automatic hits like that if you're already a big shot
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