Well, this has given me a new perspective.
Also isn't China also one of those countries where they buy a lot from poachers due to 'local medicine' as well?
Huh, seriously good job. This is the first time an Adam Ruins Everything has actually swayed my opinion, before he was just confirming my preexisting opinions in an entertaining and informative way.
350 grand to kill a rhino? And people pay? Guess it does generate a lot of funding for locals
[QUOTE=aurum481;51085481]350 grand to kill a rhino? And people pay? Guess it does generate a lot of funding for locals[/QUOTE]
Shit I gotta go kill a rhino
You know, I commented before watching, and thought you meant profit...
So Cecil's death may or may not have been that bad in the long run?
Today I learned things about conservation that I was not previously aware of.
If I had money, I'd do it. Animals would just kill each other anyways. If the animal has to die, a bullet is much quicker and humane than whatever a lion or such would do, in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;51085526]So Cecil's death may or may not have been that bad in the long run?[/QUOTE]
In fact it was the opposite.
While the death of cecil itself was not particularly a bad thing. The backlash against game hunting resulting in people getting pissed off by its death greatly reduced the number of hunters who came to the park resulting in overpopulation of lions therefore tipping the ecosystem out of balance.
The wildlife authority themselves had to kill off a few hundred lions and when that happens (as the video said) they wont be able to rake in the profits from recreational hunters.
Mind you this is from the top of my head. A few news site reported this which you can google for yourself but so far I haven't seen a proper report from the authority themselves.
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;51085526]So Cecil's death may or may not have been that bad in the long run?[/QUOTE]
If I remember right, the dentist unwittingly paid an illegal third-party to kill Cecil so no money was given to conservation.
Might be wrong though. This is not including the cost of the massive backlash.
In the US, deer hunting helps a lot with reducing motorist deaths from deer crossing roads. Deer also eat literally everything and prevent other animals from eating on the local plantlife. When its not hunting season the deer get busy pumping out new babies for the predators to eat, and if there's too many then hunting season starts early/lasts longer.
The revenue from the hunting licenses does go to conservation efforts, and at least in the US, environmental efforts don't get a lot of money allocated from other sources.
This is a pretty hard reality to swallow but it gives me more respect for the people who work in conservation services.
Makes sense. Why not utilize the demand that trophy hunters provide?
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51086157]In the US, deer hunting helps a lot with reducing motorist deaths from deer crossing roads. Deer also eat literally everything and prevent other animals from eating on the local plantlife. When its not hunting season the deer get busy pumping out new babies for the predators to eat, and if there's too many then hunting season starts early/lasts longer.
The revenue from the hunting licenses does go to conservation efforts, and at least in the US, environmental efforts don't get a lot of money allocated from other sources.
This is a pretty hard reality to swallow but it gives me more respect for the people who work in conservation services.[/QUOTE]
Bambi's mother had it coming.
Radiolab did a episode on this
[url]http://www.radiolab.org/story/rhino-hunter/[/url]
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51086157]In the US, deer hunting helps a lot with reducing motorist deaths from deer crossing roads. Deer also eat literally everything and prevent other animals from eating on the local plantlife. When its not hunting season the deer get busy pumping out new babies for the predators to eat, and if there's too many then hunting season starts early/lasts longer.
The revenue from the hunting licenses does go to conservation efforts, and at least in the US, environmental efforts don't get a lot of money allocated from other sources.
This is a pretty hard reality to swallow but it gives me more respect for the people who work in conservation services.[/QUOTE]
My city did an neat little project. They penned off an area at a park so people can see how much deer eat. By the end of the year the penned area was a couple feet taller than the rest.
It's evened out now that they've culled 200+ deer in our city alone, in one year. Who knows how much the neighboring cities have done.
We have rangers killing deer weekly in the spring and summer time in the woods about 100ft from here. The population of white-tailed deer here are ridiculous, and even the weekly hunts only do a minimal job on a good day. Sometimes you got to cull the numbers somehow, and parks aren't always the easier solution.
[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;51085305]Well, this has given me a new perspective.
Also isn't China also one of those countries where they buy a lot from poachers due to 'local medicine' as well?[/QUOTE]
There are more than two chickens for every human on the planet, all because we want their meat and eggs. If these enterprises can successfully compete with the local poachers, exotic "medicine" should almost be encouraged just to boom threatened animal population.
the bounty that hunters have to pay is helpful, but if rhinos have only one baby every few years, and take a decade to mature to reproduce then even just 1 justified kill a year is bad for the entire population.
everybody should already know that poachers are the real manmade threat, as well as loss of habitat, but there's also something to be said about discouraging the behavior that made these animals endangered to begin with which is hunting for sake of trophy
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[QUOTE=Silikone;51087179]There are more than two chickens for every human on the planet, all because we want their meat and eggs. If these enterprises can successfully compete with the local poachers, exotic "medicine" should almost be encouraged just to boom threatened animal population.[/QUOTE]
if every animal on earth could be breed like chickens then we would never have to worry, but they don't and in some cases like giraffes we just learned that they're 4 distinct species and they can't crossbreed when previously we thought they were one species and we just were bad at breeding them
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[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51086157]In the US, deer hunting helps a lot with reducing motorist deaths from deer crossing roads. Deer also eat literally everything and prevent other animals from eating on the local plantlife. When its not hunting season the deer get busy pumping out new babies for the predators to eat, and if there's too many then hunting season starts early/lasts longer.
The revenue from the hunting licenses does go to conservation efforts, and at least in the US, environmental efforts don't get a lot of money allocated from other sources.
This is a pretty hard reality to swallow but it gives me more respect for the people who work in conservation services.[/QUOTE]
comparing this to deer hunting is absurd since deer are not critically endangered animals and they breed like crazy in the wild since we've eliminated most of their natural predators
[QUOTE=Sableye;51087378][B]the bounty that hunters have to pay is helpful, but if rhinos have only one baby every few years, and take a decade to mature to reproduce then even just 1 justified kill a year is bad for the entire population.[/B]
everybody should already know that poachers are the real manmade threat, as well as loss of habitat, but there's also something to be said about discouraging the behavior that made these animals endangered to begin with which is hunting for sake of trophy
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if every animal on earth could be breed like chickens then we would never have to worry, but they don't and in some cases like giraffes we just learned that they're 4 distinct species and they can't crossbreed when previously we thought they were one species and we just were bad at breeding them
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comparing this to deer hunting is absurd since deer are not critically endangered animals and they breed like crazy in the wild since we've eliminated most of their natural predators[/QUOTE]
Do you seriously think they haven't thought of this? I'm sure they do a cost-benefit analysis before allowing any hunters to kill an endangered animal.
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