• Hillary vs Sanders Debate - 2/04/16
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[video=youtube;DFWvqlv3S3M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFWvqlv3S3M[/video]
Oh boy, shots fired. Hillary is trying hard to talk her way around the fact that she is in the pocket of big business.
There were so many moments in this debate in which Bernie said the most ideologically consistent and correct things, but still got rhetorically slaughtered by Hillary. She is amazing at debating and managed very effectively to counter all of Bernie's attacks. Her calling out Bernie on his votes against the Brady bill was perfectly done, as was her calling Bernie's attacks "artful smears". She definitely won that debate, even though Bernie is definitely the better candidate. Bernie will never succeed in calling out her cronyism with Wall Street because that would require calling out Obama and the rest of the Democrats, while also hurting Hillary in the general election. He is smart to make sure he does not wreck her chances of winning against the Republican (it's why he is running as a Democrat).
Sanders should just run as an independent and get it over with.
He chose not to for a reason. He would rather have Hillary than a Republican.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;49675921]Oh boy, shots fired. Hillary is trying hard to talk her way around the fact that she is in the pocket of big business.[/QUOTE] I love how she didn't agree to submit the transcripts of the speeches that she was paid to give and then dodged the question completely, talking about how she spoke with lots off people about world affairs and how stressful it was for her advising the president about going after bin Laden. I don't trust this bitch at all and I still think she needs to be locked up or at least disqualified for having her own email server "for her own convenience". Like maintaining a private server is in any way more convenient then using a secure state provided one. The only reason it'd be more convenient for her is so she could hide shit that she doesn't want anybody else seeing.
she pulled out the "im a woman" card again no one cares if your a woman.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;49676037]Sanders should just run as an independent and get it over with.[/QUOTE] Ya splitting the democratic vote is an amazing idea, I don't see any way that it could go wrong and literally guarantee a republican win. It went well for Roosevelt and Taft in 1912 so it should go well now.
[QUOTE=Wii60;49676122]she pulled out the "im a woman" card again no one cares if your a woman.[/QUOTE] I've defended her use of the woman card many times, but her assertion that she is not part of the Democrat establishment because she is a woman is completely ridiculous. [editline]4th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Aftermath;49676088]I love how she didn't agree to submit the transcripts of the speeches that she was paid to give and then dodged the question completely, talking about how she spoke with lots off people about world affairs and how stressful it was for her advising the president about going after bin Laden. I don't trust this bitch at all and I still think she needs to be locked up or at least disqualified for having her own email server "for her own convenience". Like maintaining a private server is in any way more convenient then using a secure state provided one. The only reason it'd be more convenient for her is so she could hide shit that she doesn't want anybody else seeing.[/QUOTE] 1. The e-mail thing is not that big a deal. Powell and Rice are also being investigated and yet that does not seem to be a big deal to people. Hm. 2. Don't call her a bitch. The more people use gender based slurs on her the more people will accept her sometimes inappropriate use of the woman card. Let's not fulfill the Bernie Bot/Bro stereotype here, leave that to 4chan or reddit. She's not as good a candidate as Bernie, and she is as corrupt as any other Republican, Democrat or (let's face it) Libertarian, but let's not go crazy with hatred for her. There are a dozen Republicans a thousand times worse than her that need some hate too.
[QUOTE=Wii60;49676122]she pulled out the "im a woman" card again no one cares if your a woman.[/QUOTE] is, that true though? because are people no longer falling for that card,.?
Jesus Christ her response to the Goldman Sachs speeches was so bad and obvious.
[QUOTE=person11;49676145]1. The e-mail thing is not that big a deal. Powell and Rice are also being investigated and yet that does not seem to be a big deal to people. Hm. [/QUOTE] So then condemn and investigate them too. I started seeing this posted on Facebook the other day and all I could think is how disappointed I am in Democrats for pulling this protectionist [B]bullshit[/B] once again. Whenever a Democrat does anything wrong, the Democrats wait and wait until a Republican slips up and then.. OH! Well, well! Looks like we're off the hook! You can't possibly criticize Hillary Clinton for mishandling confidential and top-secret emails on a private server, no no! Why? Because not-Democrats did it too, and that makes it okay! Case closed everybody!
I can't tell if the crowd booing her when she said bernie's statements were 'artful smears' or if they were going "oooooh" like sick burn
[QUOTE=Bloodshot12;49676317]I can't tell if the crowd booing her when she said bernie's statements were 'artful smears' or if they were going "oooooh" like sick burn[/QUOTE] when in the video does this happen { what time ? }
is there a better quality one out there?
If there is a black president in USA,I think now there should a woman in White House...in my opinion
[QUOTE=Sgt.vodka95;49676657]If there is a black president in USA,I think now there should a woman in White House...in my opinion[/QUOTE] What does being a woman have to do with executive ability? Or is that not important?
[QUOTE=Sgt.vodka95;49676657]If there is a black president in USA,I think now there should a woman in White House...in my opinion[/QUOTE] yes a good woman with good skills should be in the white house that isn't Hillary.
[QUOTE=Sgt.vodka95;49676657]If there is a black president in USA,I think now there should a woman in White House...in my opinion[/QUOTE] Lol so you are solely basing who should be president based on diversity? We need a person who has the credentials to be president.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;49676037]Sanders should just run as an independent and get it over with.[/QUOTE] Not while we still use a first past the post voting system.
[QUOTE=Ricenchicken;49676786]Lol so you are solely basing who should be president based on diversity? We need a person who has the credentials to be president.[/QUOTE] The people vote for the candidates with unusual chracteristics(for example; to Obama was vote by people because he is black; and now Hillary will be president because he will be the 1st woman president in the USA)
[QUOTE=Sgt.vodka95;49676896]The people vote for the candidates with unusual chracteristics(for example; to Obama was vote by people because he is black; and now Hillary will be presidente because he will be the 1st woman president in the USA)[/QUOTE] And it is very dumb to elect your country's leader based on these things.
uh, it's not the full debate? it doesn't finish
[QUOTE=Sgt.vodka95;49676896]The people vote for the candidates with unusual chracteristics(for example; to Obama was vote by people because he is black; and now Hillary will be presidente because he will be the 1st woman president in the USA)[/QUOTE] Who old are you mate ?
[QUOTE=Sgt.vodka95;49676896]The people vote for the candidates with unusual chracteristics(for example; to Obama was vote by people because he is black; and now Hillary will be presidente because he will be the 1st woman president in the USA)[/QUOTE] What? Were you even alive when Obama was elected?
They really contrast each other. Although Sanders must feel like a broken record at this point, he's been more authentic and outspoken compared to Hillarys polished false gold speech.
Obama's election was not like this, but after Obama was elected, everyone all over were all ecstatic over getting a black president. People remembers this, and they now want USA to be all "revolutionary" again by electing the first female president.
[QUOTE=Sgt.vodka95;49676657]If there is a black president in USA,I think now there should a woman in White House...in my opinion[/QUOTE] If you vote not based on policy but race or gender then you shouldn't vote. Also bernie is a jew is that why you don't want to vote for him?? Or why don't you vote for Carly fiorina? Do you like Michel Bachman and Sara pailin too because they are women? [editline]5th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=LtKyle2;49677364]They really contrast each other. Although Sanders must feel like a broken record at this point, he's been more authentic and outspoken compared to Hillarys polished false gold speech.[/QUOTE] Bernie might sound like a broken record compared to hillary because she changes her mind all the time.
[QUOTE=Nanamil;49677107]Who old are you mate ?[/QUOTE] Check mah profile here ;)
[QUOTE=Sgt.vodka95;49677871]Check mah profile here ;)[/QUOTE] What are we suppose to look ofr?? It doesn't say how old you are. But I hope you still aren't old enough to vote.
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