governments wouldn't even let the concorde travel supersonic over their airspace most of the time anyway
it was doomed to fail
I dream of a day when Concorde can fly again.
[QUOTE=angelangel;50743986]governments wouldn't even let the concorde travel supersonic over their airspace most of the time anyway
it was doomed to fail[/QUOTE]
It could have survived on trans-ocean flights had it not been so loud, expensive, gas guzzling, outdated or cramped.
Aircraft engines have come a long way in the 50 years since the Concorde's engines were designed, I think a supersonic airliner could be economically viable today.
[QUOTE=Fayez;50744244]It could have survived on trans-ocean flights had it not been so loud, expensive, gas guzzling, outdated or cramped.
Aircraft engines have come a long way in the 50 years since the Concorde's engines were designed, I think a supersonic airliner could be economically viable today.[/QUOTE]
Concord was actually way ahead of it's time. He introduced Fly By Wire and a lot of other systems. It was convinient and professionnals found it easy to pilot. But yeah I can testify, the inside is cramped af :v:
Regarding today's engine tech, there currently is no engine other than the RR Olympus that could fit a modern Concorde. Turbojets are different than turbofans, and designing a reliable engine is twice as long just as expansive as the actual plane (just look at the A400M and F-35, half of their respective problems comes from the engines).
there's a concorde museum at my airport, so that's pretty neat
anyways man I really hope that eventually we'll get something similar to travel in
Droop Snoot.
The Concorde is the most adorable plane imaginable with that kind of terminology.
[QUOTE=Fayez;50744244]It could have survived on trans-ocean flights had it not been so loud, expensive, gas guzzling, outdated or cramped.
Aircraft engines have come a long way in the 50 years since the Concorde's engines were designed, I think a supersonic airliner could be economically viable today.[/QUOTE]
I think we could recreate a supersonic passenger airliner again, but 'supersonic only over the ocean' really makes it a niche thing, with Airbus planes taking more passengers and the age of budget airliners the glamour of Concorde wouldn't be worth the cost really it's a damn shame.
I recall as well that it lost its market, the idea being if you played a significant role in a multinational company and they suddenly called a meeting in say New York and you were in London you could get there and have a reasonable chance of making it on time, however the rise of the internet and video conferencing meant that you no longer had to physically be there to have your voice heard. Concorde was so advanced yet completely intended for a Thunderbirds style world that never materialised.
Every time I hear about the concord dying it usually turns into a circle jerk about how the DC-10 killed it with shrapnel and how unfair it was, its nice to see a more reasonable discussion
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;50745891]I think we could recreate a supersonic passenger airliner again, but 'supersonic only over the ocean' really makes it a niche thing, with Airbus planes taking more passengers and the age of budget airliners the glamour of Concorde wouldn't be worth the cost really it's a damn shame.[/QUOTE]
Theirs been research by the Air Force and NASA on ways to dampen or outright mute a sonic boom so I wouldn't be surprised if it could be overcome by newer technology.
[QUOTE=Saxon;50746261]Every time I hear about the concord dying it usually turns into a circle jerk about how the DC-10 killed it with shrapnel and how unfair it was, its nice to see a more reasonable discussion[/QUOTE]
well air france 4590 wasn't the only nail in the coffin but it did put the last few in there for sure, not sure what's so unreasonable about the fact that a plane crash into a suburb caused a lot of negative press that wasn't necessarily the Concorde's responsibility
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i mean the whole fleet was grounded after air france 4590 so it is actually a really important and critical aspect of the Concorde's story??
[QUOTE=FFStudios;50746855]well air france 4590 wasn't the only nail in the coffin but it did put the last few in there for sure, not sure what's so unreasonable about the fact that a plane crash into a suburb caused a lot of negative press that wasn't necessarily the Concorde's responsibility
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i mean the whole fleet was grounded after air france 4590 so it is actually a really important and critical aspect of the Concorde's story??[/QUOTE]
Because it's not a design failure that caused a fatal and devastating event. If that's why a lot of people think it failed, then they're dumb. It's not like it crashed and burned because it was poorly built or was poorly handled, it was put into a situation that it shouldn't have been put into. And not because of the pilot, it was because somebody missed a spot on the runway.
If it crashed and burned like it did because of a critical design flaw, I'd be with you and everybody else. But it didn't. That's like saying after Challenger NASA should have stopped receiving funding and the prospects of exploring space should have died right there. But they didn't.
I don't know why but the phrase "the snoot drooped" being repeated twice made me crack up
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