Need For Speed Most Wanted 2 - The Police Can't Handle Dangerous Edges AKA Quality AAA Testing - General

[video=youtube;9-HpTOVuhFo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-HpTOVuhFo[/video] The AI in this game is ridiculous. Whoever designed this highway is soon going to be fired. [video=youtube;hzmhGBV8LEY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzmhGBV8LEY[/video]

I am more interested in why there is an 1000 foot drop into oblivion on a pedestrian motorway.

Christ that HUD is horrendous.

I think everyone is trying a little to hard to rip on this game. I mean the reviews say its good, so it must be good right?

I think the game looks good but for £40 they can fuck themselves.

I think it's honestly worth only 30$. As I said in another thread I was really curious about how the story continued, what the hell happened to Razor and Darius and also Cross and the damn helicopters :v:

[QUOTE=RaTcHeT302;38275542]I think it's honestly worth only 30$. As I said in another thread I was really curious about how the story continued, what the hell happened to Razor and Darius and also Cross and the damn helicopters :v:[/QUOTE] Yeah well, thats developers today for you. Why have a story or any structured characters in the game when you can do whatever you want? you tell your own story! I mean that seems great on paper, but in reality it just gets messy and seems lazy.

[QUOTE=Cairn Trenor;38275588]Yeah well, thats developers today for you. Why have a story or any structured characters in the game when you can do whatever you want? you tell your own story! I mean that seems great on paper, but in reality it just gets messy and seems lazy.[/QUOTE] I also do miss the fun things and unique key points Most Wanted had, I still remember the building with the rocket on it and the golf course :v: Also, I need to drive all the way to the race itself instead of just starting the race from a handy menu. I also hate easydrive, it's making selecting races and cars extremely painfull in my opinion, what was wrong with the simple menus from before?

[QUOTE=RaTcHeT302;38275927]I also do miss the fun things and unique key points Most Wanted had, I still remember the building with the rocket on it and the golf course :v: Also, I need to drive all the way to the race itself instead of just starting the race from a handy menu. I also hate easydrive, it's making selecting races and cars extremely painfull in my opinion, what was wrong with the simple menus from before?[/QUOTE] I guess they wanted to do away with as much interface as possible.

100 officers died that day

"Yeah, this guy had training"

[QUOTE=FuzzyPoop;38276474]"Yeah, this guy had training"[/QUOTE] *Drives off the road*

[QUOTE=Cairn Trenor;38275588]Yeah well, thats developers today for you. Why have a story or any structured characters in the game when you can do whatever you want? you tell your own story! I mean that seems great on paper, but in reality it just gets messy and seems lazy.[/QUOTE] Sometimes a game can put fun ahead of the story and come out better for it, I think this is one of those games.

But, it could've been much better than that :c Not that I don't agree but MW already had a basic story already running wich makes kinda no sense to remove.

Criterion is not good with stories and AI. I thought this would be clear to everyone.

[QUOTE=Da_Maniac_;38277625]Criterion is not good with stories and AI. I thought this would be clear to everyone.[/QUOTE] I honestly gave them the benefit of doubt, can't say I was too hopefull when I heard that a completly unrelated team with this series was taking part again in the making of it though.

The city in the game is built in the same manner as Paradise City in a certain earlier release and Takedowns are in the game. The new Most Wanted is a hybrid between Need For Speed and Burnout.

[QUOTE=RaTcHeT302;38277439]But, it could've been much better than that :c Not that I don't agree but MW already had a basic story already running wich makes kinda no sense to remove.[/QUOTE] I mean honestly, who really gave a crap about the story in most wanted. I played it cause I like racing games and need for speed had some fairly solid gameplay I couldn't give two shits about the story.

Personally I do find the game to be pretty fun, but I can't help but feel it could have been so much [i]more[/i].

In what way could it have been more though. It's without a doubt one of the best and most fun online multiplayer racers to come out in years.

[QUOTE=icemaz;38277756]I mean honestly, who really gave a crap about the story in most wanted. I played it cause I like racing games and need for speed had some fairly solid gameplay I couldn't give two shits about the story.[/QUOTE]Progression? The feeling that you're playing for a reason and not just driving around doing fuck all?

[QUOTE=icemaz;38277756]I mean honestly, who really gave a crap about the story in most wanted. I played it cause I like racing games and need for speed had some fairly solid gameplay I couldn't give two shits about the story.[/QUOTE] Just made me feel more engaged, that's all. I actualy had a motive and I was also really curious.

[QUOTE=Killer900;38278312]Progression? The feeling that you're playing for a reason and not just driving around doing fuck all?[/QUOTE] One could argue that the most wanted list counts as progression, but I just don't get the same feeling from this game compared to the original. Original had actual upgrading. You had to buy cars and engines and tires and stuff to progress. Here it's just do a few races on one car and switch to another. You don't really earn anything outside of the ten cars from the most wanted list and some nearly pointless stat upgrades that don't even come close to the depth NFS Underground 2, MW, and Carbon had.

[QUOTE=legolover122;38278365]One could argue that the most wanted list counts as progression, but I just don't get the same feeling from this game compared to the original. Original had actual upgrading. You had to buy cars and engines and tires and stuff to progress. Here it's just do a few races on one car and switch to another. You don't really earn anything outside of the ten cars from the most wanted list and some nearly pointless stat upgrades that don't even come close to the depth NFS Underground 2, MW, and Carbon had.[/QUOTE]Exactly, the original Most Wanted had REAL progression to it, the goal being to defeat the Blacklist, and ultimately at the end run from Cross and the entire police force and escape the city which set the scene for Carbon. The customization was better, the music was better, the cop A.I. and radio chatter was better. Everything about the original was better than this.

[QUOTE=Killer900;38278875]Exactly, the original Most Wanted had REAL progression to it, the goal being to defeat the Blacklist, and ultimately at the end run from Cross and the entire police force and escape the city which set the scene for Carbon. The customization was better, the music was better, the cop A.I. and radio chatter was better. Everything about the original was better than this.[/QUOTE] I think you're all looking at this wrong by comparing it to a game which came out 7 years ago with a different developer and in a different generation of Need for Speed. This game has perhaps some of the best multiplayer of any racing game period, it's an enormous amount of fun and it expands on the games predecessor (Paradise) by a lot. This was not a game which when development started was intended to be a sequel to Most Wanted that is plainly obvious, and I can't help but feel that EA told them to use the Need for Speed brand because its more in peoples minds than Burnout where the last game came out 4 years ago. Need for Speed has changed dramatically and this is the best one since it started. It misses out on a lot of the customisation because this is not a NFS game, its just what EA wanted to call it.

Wow, I definitely see some Burnout Paradise engine working there. The camera and handling really gives it away.

[QUOTE=icemaz;38279109]I think you're all looking at this wrong by comparing it to a game which came out 7 years ago with a different developer and in a different generation of Need for Speed. This game has perhaps some of the best multiplayer of any racing game period, it's an enormous amount of fun and it expands on the games predecessor (Paradise) by a lot. This was not a game which when development started was intended to be a sequel to Most Wanted that is plainly obvious, and I can't help but feel that EA told them to use the Need for Speed brand because its more in peoples minds than Burnout where the last game came out 4 years ago. Need for Speed has changed dramatically and this is the best one since it started. It misses out on a lot of the customisation because this is not a NFS game, its just what EA wanted to call it.[/QUOTE]If they're going to call it the same name as the original, (literally the same exact name, couldn't even slap a 2 at the end.) then I'm going to compare it to the original. This is not a Need for Speed game, calling it that is an insult to the Need for Speed franchise. Well maybe not an insult.

[QUOTE=Killer900;38279452]If they're going to call it the same name as the original, (literally the same exact name, couldn't even slap a 2 at the end.) then I'm going to compare it to the original. This is not a Need for Speed game, calling it that is an insult to the Need for Speed franchise.[/QUOTE] But why considering this is the best game in the last few years to come out with the Need for Speed name, and they've been pumping them out like no tomorrow. The need for speed name is more broad than it used to be meaning that it caters to different kinds of gameplay as well.

[QUOTE=icemaz;38279507]But why considering this is the best game in the last few years to come out with the Need for Speed name, and they've been pumping them out like no tomorrow. The need for speed name is more broad than it used to be meaning that it caters to different kinds of gameplay as well.[/QUOTE]But this isn't what Need for Speed is about, this is literally like Burnout Paradise 2, which is what they should have called it.

[QUOTE=icemaz;38279507]But why considering this is the best game in the last few years to come out with the Need for Speed name, and they've been pumping them out like no tomorrow. The need for speed name is more broad than it used to be meaning that it caters to different kinds of gameplay as well.[/QUOTE] While I at least am fine with it being under the NFS name (except for lack of customization. Even though not in the base game, is still a vital part of NFS that has been lacking from the last few games), Calling it a Most Wanted sequel or successor seems excessive. It is nothing like Most Wanted outside of the Most Wanted system which just sort of feels added on. Like they made a burnout paradise game and were like "well we gotta make it Most Wanted somehow" so they just tacked it on. Like nothing is locked (outside of the Most Wanted drivers cars). You can access pretty much everything without beating a single black list member. Which then removes almost all the feeling of "earning" something. Like if they called it like Need for Speed: <insert random tagline here> it would be a bit more acceptable. Hell, even if it had the Most Wanted list. The Most Wanted list is essentially theonly thing tying the two games together.