• Comcast tries to rationalise their 1TB data cap
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two questions: do they have a no cap plan for a higher price? and did lowering this also lower the price for their, i guess, normal plans? if neither, fuck off comcast.
[QUOTE=Sombrero;51184443]Of course comments are disabled[/QUOTE] Why even bother making this video if people are gonna hate it anyway? If they knew this and disabled comments then why make this?
and treating their customers like children to boot
from a business perspective this limit makes perfect sense, and as a normal customer i can hardly visualize when i would ever need to get 1 TB a month. it's implementation is pretty logical. i still, however, disagree with the notion and the dangerous precedence it sets. once you start creating data caps at an arbitrary point, what's to stop you from lowering it further and further? it's like a swinging axe in the air that doesn't seem so threatening until it dangles closer and closer to you.
Im tempted to abuse the report system and try to get people to mass flag this video, just out of spite.
[QUOTE=aznz888;51184463]from a business perspective this limit makes perfect sense, and as a normal customer i can hardly visualize when i would ever need to get 1 TB a month. it's implementation is pretty logical. i still, however, disagree with the notion and the dangerous precedence it sets. once you start creating data caps at an arbitrary point, what's to stop you from lowering it further and further? it's like a swinging axe in the air that doesn't seem so threatening until it dangles closer and closer to you.[/QUOTE] i think you've found the best way to describe why i hate subscription and pay as you go services. it's why i fear that something great like playstation vue will turn to shit within the next 2 years because we can't have nice things.
[QUOTE=Sombrero;51184443]Of course comments are disabled[/QUOTE] Just wait until the ratings are too
I wouldn't have to decide what to do with a terabyte if I had unlimited internet. Knock Knock Comcast. We don't live 30 years ago anymore. There is no need for a data cap.
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[b][i]"It is important to know that more than 99% of our customers do not use 1 terabyte of data and are not likely to be impacted by this plan, so they can continue to stream, surf, and download without worry."[/i][/b] If it's a non-issue, then why have they all of a sudden added a data cap? They didn't do it for no reason. What's their angle? Milking droplets out of the 1% who do go over it? I just don't see the rational behind it. [b][i]"The Terabyte Internet Data Usage Plan provides you with 1 TB (1024 GB) of Internet data usage each month as part of your monthly XFINITY Internet service. If you choose to use more than 1 TB in a month, we will automatically add blocks of 50 GB to your account for an additional fee of $10 each."[/i][/b] TEN DOLLARS for fifty fucking gigs? I don't have Comcast, but this still makes me fucking mad.
[QUOTE=Wolverunder;51184674] If it's a non-issue, then why have they all of a sudden added a data cap?[/QUOTE] data consumption increases over time. the cap means nothing now but once 4k streaming and 60gb games go mainstream you'll feel the pain.
Data caps are garbage Certain games nowadays come wih 100+ GB downloads, with 50+ GB having become pretty standard. Add a couple of those and some 4K streaming and oops, you're fucked I'm so happy only mobile connections have caps here, although they [I]used[/I] to be unlimited as well
Holy crap how can they be so jolly about something so terrible? 1TB of bandwidth would be great for a mobile connection, but for a desktop station? That's like a few days decent usage.
One can dream of 1TB a month here, max available for my region is 500gb a month and I barely even use that with the speeds we get, can't imagine what i'd do with 1TB.
data caps are a fucking joke. I'd never go with a company who gives data caps like some fucking chains
[QUOTE=aznz888;51184463]from a business perspective this limit makes perfect sense, and as a normal customer i can hardly visualize when i would ever need to get 1 TB a month. it's implementation is pretty logical. i still, however, disagree with the notion and the dangerous precedence it sets. once you start creating data caps at an arbitrary point, what's to stop you from lowering it further and further? it's like a swinging axe in the air that doesn't seem so threatening until it dangles closer and closer to you.[/QUOTE] Think of a 4 or 5 person household with Netflix and phones and PC's. That 1TB is gone in 2 weeks I have a 1TB cap myself and I've had to limit myself to avoid being cut off until the next billing cycle a few times, which is bullshit seeing as I already pay $168/mo, which is extra for the higher cap of 1TB. And My ISP said everyone would be grandfathered in so those already with them won't have caps, only for them to put in small letters on the back of everyone's bill a month before they enforced caps [b]LOL NEVERMIND[/b] Comcast says 99% of costumers won't hit the cap, my ISP says 97%. With numbers like this I have to ask: Fucking what's the point, then? A percentage that small is not worth the unanimous backlash and outcry. But you see, they all have monopolies and can do whatever the fuck they want because where the fuck are you going to go? They can get by with making everyone angry as shit for an extra $10 out of 1% of their customers
[QUOTE=Wolverunder;51184674][b][i]"It is important to know that more than 99% of our customers do not use 1 terabyte of data and are not likely to be impacted by this plan, so they can continue to stream, surf, and download without worry."[/i][/b] If it's a non-issue, then why have they all of a sudden added a data cap? They didn't do it for no reason. What's their angle? Milking droplets out of the 1% who do go over it? I just don't see the rational behind it. [b][i]"The Terabyte Internet Data Usage Plan provides you with 1 TB (1024 GB) of Internet data usage each month as part of your monthly XFINITY Internet service. If you choose to use more than 1 TB in a month, we will automatically add blocks of 50 GB to your account for an additional fee of $10 each."[/i][/b] TEN DOLLARS for fifty fucking gigs? I don't have Comcast, but this still makes me fucking mad.[/QUOTE] They didn't [I]suddenly add[/I] a data cap. 1) The 1TB cap has been in the works for a good while now. 2) The previous datacap was 300GB (We exceed this in my house almost every month). So they actually raised it from being basically theft, but it's still not enough for some households. Site note: The "dangerous precedent" argument is way fucking late.
[QUOTE=redback3;51184937]data caps are a fucking joke. I'd never go with a company who gives data caps like some fucking chains[/QUOTE] In the USA, You go with the ISP where you live, or you go without internet. You pay what they want, for what they want to give, for the quality they decide is enough. There's no competition to keep them competitive or good
[QUOTE=aznz888;51184463]from a business perspective this limit makes perfect sense, and as a normal customer i can hardly visualize when i would ever need to get 1 TB a month. it's implementation is pretty logical. i still, however, disagree with the notion and the dangerous precedence it sets. once you start creating data caps at an arbitrary point, what's to stop you from lowering it further and further? it's like a swinging axe in the air that doesn't seem so threatening until it dangles closer and closer to you.[/QUOTE] The worst part of it is that many people now have a data cap but are paying the same amount for their plan, and now have the ""option"" to pay more to remove the data cap they didn't previously have. They're basically just downgrading your plan and charging you more to undo the downgrade. And often times the only competition to Comcast has borderline-unusable internet speeds, so everyone is just fucked.
Also don't forget, Comcast is the ISP that wanted to collect money from Netflix or they would throttle their own traffic to Netflix. Just think about that. They charge you for using their service. They now limit your usage and charge you if you go over that limit which you already pay out of the ass for. And then they wanted to charge services on the other end or they would throttle their traffic, which for now, they can't do thanks to the FCC and the huge outcry from the public That's like my power company charging Samsung (On top of the bill I pay) because some of the electricity I use goes to power my TV
Even straying away from the obvious, like downloading an entire steam library of 100 games, or streaming 1080p, nothing in this video outlines actual, normal use. "You can look at 1,000,000 gifs!" Yeah, okay? What about tangible statistics, like "in an average day of doing X, Y, and Z for F amount of time, you will only use A amount of data." IMO data caps are a joke, and should not exist. I get it if it's a startup ISP and they are working on their infrastructure. I don't get it if it is an established ISP with essentially a monopoly on providing internet access. If you are an established ISP you should have enough infrastructure and support for limitless data usage. The only reason to ever implement a data cap as that kind of ISP is to pull in more money. $10 for an additional 50GB is ridiculous, and I would be pissed about that. Before I moved, my old ISP was a WISP. And they were terrible. The speeds were perfectly fine for what the service was, I could buy a game on Steam and download it in three or four hours. However, they started doing this data cap bullshit. If I exceeded their limit (5GB), they would cut off service and to reinstate it, the fee was $125 to reset it back to zero. Yep. $125 to get another paltry 5GB back. After about a year of that bullshit, another WISP showed up. Instead of using expensive radio equipment they piggybacked off of existing 3G cellular data towers. The speeds were about the same, and the price was much more reasonable. However they too had a data cap, this one was 4GB. Exceeding that would cause the connection to throttle down to unusable levels. 5kb/s. Not even enough to look at fucking e-mail. To spite them I would continue to torrent shit when it dropped to 5kb/s. Fuck you. Data limits on a WISP? Okay, sure. I can understand that. The infrastructure alone is already shit, so having a few outliers that create heaps of traffic that amounts to the same traffic from every other customer over the course of an entire billing cycle can be a problem. But an established ISP? No. Hell no. There is no excuse other than to milk those who actually want to use what they pay for.
This is currently the most hated video on youtube right now. It has 99.53% Dislike to Like ratio. The current leader on the "YouTube's Most Hated Videos [by ratio]" list, which requires at least 60 thousand dislikes (the video currently has 55k), is the very tasteful "◀| TOTALBISCUIT GETS CANCER TOTALLY DESERVES IT | BATTLEFIELD 4 |►" video with a 99.32% D/L ratio
who uploaded the totalbiscuit gets cancer video
I have determined that 1TB is also the equivalent of watching this video in HD 36,900 times. This would take roughly 50 days of constantly looping the video, 24 hours a day. I wonder if Comcast waives the fee if they see all of the bandwidth went to this video?
honestly at first i was all "rah rah rah fuck comcast" on this one but then I ended up checking my used data and realized that my household hits, at most, 600 gigs a month - and that's pretty active use. One streams netflix pretty much every night (from approx 6PM until they fall asleep at 1-2AM), the other streams a mix of netflix and anime, and I frequently download games that top 40+ gigs. I'm not saying that I don't have an issue with this, but I definitely have less of an issue with it than I thought I would have. Given that I consider myself a heavy user and I only approach approx 60-70% of this cap, I'm not terribly concerned. The thing that does concern me, however, is the overage fees - instead of just a throttling.
If the 1TB data cap is so ~impossible~ to reach, why is there a need for a data cap in the first place?
[QUOTE=Tools;51184784]Holy crap how can they be so jolly about something so terrible? 1TB of bandwidth would be great for a mobile connection, but for a desktop station? That's like a few days decent usage.[/QUOTE] You download 1TB of data in a few days? Regularly?
And as 4K picks up speed, as games require a bit more bandwidth, as well as become larger in file size, as websites get more and more loaded with autoplay videos/gifs and ads, as more and more people have wireless devices like tablets and phones they casually use all day, that 1TB cap is going to get smaller and smaller, and soon.
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