how is this seriously a thing? like whats the difference between this and those otherkin people?
is this all some elaborate joke poking fun at the Trans-wave sweeping across the internet these days?
How to get a psychiatric recommendation in 17 minutes.
Imagine how the parents might feel when they find out their child is transspecies.
Hard to take the guy seriously when he told them, "I just wanna march with the penguins."
But hey, apparently his mom confirmed he is obsessed. I gotta say i'm impressed he held up the argument so well even if trolling.
"I don't feel comfortable using the bathrooms. They're not penguin-friendly."
"Penguins don't have bathrooms. What do you, want to go outside?"
"Could I? There's lots of trees...Could you put a tree in the bathroom?"
oh god is brother is also a gorilla
i feel so sorry for that mother
I'm really interested. Is Trans-Species an actual thing in psychology and neurology? How well represented is it in literature.
I know that transgender is a scientifically accepted phenomenon and with plenty of examples in history, but this seems to have popped up in the last few years suddenly.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;47047516]I'm really interested. Is Trans-Species an actual thing in psychology and neurology? How well represented is it in literature.
I know that transgender is a scientifically accepted phenomenon and with plenty of examples in history, but this seems to have popped up in the last few years suddenly.[/QUOTE]
Trans-species doesn't really make any damn sense though, because while transgender people (simply put) have a brain that considers itself a different gender than what their sex organs may dictate, trans-species people are suggesting that their brain somehow operates like an animal, which is pretty much impossible from a biological standpoint. Transgender people are making society start too question the arbitrary institution of gender, which is a man-made concept, and how it categorizes them incorrectly based on their genitals rather than their mind.
Then again, in a few decades there may be some kind of scientific evidence to support trans-species people and will prove that they actually are supposed to be a different species (which still doesn't sound like it makes any damn sense at all)
I chalk this up to them having some kind of mental illness that leads to this type of thought, but I'm keeping an open mind since people said the same thing about transgender people not too long ago (in fact, some people still are)
[QUOTE=EcksDee;47047516]How well represented is it in literature.[/QUOTE]
Animorphs.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;47047516]I'm really interested. Is Trans-Species an actual thing in psychology and neurology? How well represented is it in literature.[/QUOTE]
It's not at all. It's basically people with severe mental health issues.
While transsexuals have their condition because of a few problems during development in the womb, the "transspecies" have no causal factor for their illness in a similar way.
The human brain is explicitly human, and people who think they are animals or whatever are still using the things unique to humans (like speech and being able to manipulate all sorts of different tools).
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[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;47047576]Then again, in a few decades there may be some kind of scientific evidence to support trans-species people and will prove that they actually are supposed to be a different species (which still doesn't sound like it makes any damn sense at all)[/QUOTE]
Nah. From an evolutionary standpoint it wouldn't even make any sense. DNA contains the genetic material for the manufacture of humans. It's not like it can make penguins, or people who think they are penguins (penguins and humans had their last common ancestor like 300 million years ago).
sounds like a delusional disorder if he adamantly believes he is a penguin
[QUOTE=Deng;47048113]It's not at all. It's basically people with severe mental health issues.[/QUOTE]
What I asked was if it was represented in the literature on psychology, not what it is.
There's a distinction to be made here between a genuine psychological phenomenon and a teenager that found a new way to garner attention. That's what interests me.
I really wanna know how the parents were able to raise [i]two[/i] kids going through life thinking this.
They must have thought it was a phase and let it slide by.
That hurt to watch, but I was intrigued when he said that he would "no longer be a penguin" if he removed his headgear. If he really believes that he is a penguin, why would removing a piece of a costume have any effect on who he is/thinks he is? The self-contradiction makes me suspect he's simply doing this for attention.
I dunno, i'm not into the whole trans-species thing, I think it's kinda stupid - but the kid does have a point that they're telling him that he can't wear headgear because of his beliefs, but people with different religious beliefs that require them to wear headgear can. They reference birth certificates as their evidence but yet "muslim" or "jewish" isn't printed on your certificate. I think he actually has some pretty good points and they can't actually cite or interpret their own rules in a way that show him doing anything wrong.
"Trans-species" seems like it's just extreme furries trying to leech off of the legitimacy and recognition of being transgender
[QUOTE=Nutnoze;47049456]I dunno, i'm not into the whole trans-species thing, I think it's kinda stupid - but the kid does have a point that they're telling him that he can't wear headgear because of his beliefs, but people with different religious beliefs that require them to wear headgear can. They reference birth certificates as their evidence but yet "muslim" or "jewish" isn't printed on your certificate. I think he actually has some pretty good points and they can't actually cite or interpret their own rules in a way that show him doing anything wrong.[/QUOTE]
He's comparing his weird (and not scientifically proven) belief to a being in a religion. I'm sorry, that doesn't work.
[QUOTE=Katatonic717;47049601]He's comparing his weird (and not scientifically proven) belief to a being in a religion. I'm sorry, that doesn't work.[/QUOTE]
But at the same time, he could be like the people who believe in the flying spaghetti monster and just legally start a religion about being a penguin and then they'd have to recognize him.
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[QUOTE=Foogooman;47049516]"Trans-species" seems like it's just extreme furries trying to leech off of the legitimacy and recognition of being transgender[/QUOTE]
I agree - what i'm saying is that he's citing a paragraph in their their school code makes an exception for headgear for personal beliefs [B]and[/B] religion, and they can't seem to find an argument that doesn't directly contradict the personal beliefs part, which they can't even interpret as "oh it implies religion" because religion is separate in the wording. I think it's stupid, but I also think that according to the code that they put out as their school's equivalent to a constitution, he's allowed to do it.
[QUOTE=Nutnoze;47049651]But at the same time, he could be like the people who believe in the flying spaghetti monster and just legally start a religion about being a penguin and then they'd have to recognize him.[/QUOTE]
Yes but transpsecies/otherkin/gorifiedfurries people have zero backing from any institution anywhere ever and it's incredibly unlikely that they ever will.
He will not legally get any special treatment.
i want to believe this kid is just fucking with these adults... but at the end "the zoo crew" I almost died laughing. I feel so bad for this dude
The video links to a Twitter in the description that only just got created on the 27th. Can't help but feel there's something up about this.
[QUOTE=Katatonic717;47049674]Yes but transpsecies/otherkin/gorifiedfurries people have zero backing from any institution anywhere ever and it's incredibly unlikely that they ever will.
He will not legally get any special treatment.[/QUOTE]
But yet I could walk into that school with a pasta strainer on my head all day because it's a part of "my religion". Just because something is legally recognized doesn't make it not stupid.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;47048989]What I asked was if it was represented in the literature on psychology, not what it is.
There's a distinction to be made here between a genuine psychological phenomenon and a teenager that found a new way to garner attention. That's what interests me.[/QUOTE]
Basically it's not anywhere in psychology journals, or if it is it's classified under something else.
My favorite kind of otherkin are people who think they were supposed to be born as an anime character. Like, a [I]specific[/I] anime character. Like, how can you actually expect anyone to take you seriously if you identify as a [I]fictional person from a television series?[/I] It makes absolutely no sense in ways that are hard to even describe
[QUOTE=Nutnoze;47049720]But yet I could walk into that school with a pasta strainer on my head all day because it's a part of "my religion". Just because something is legally recognized doesn't make it not stupid.[/QUOTE]
No you couldn't. If you wear some stupid shit and they tell you to take it off, and you go "NO ITS MY RELIGION" I will bet you they won't give a fuck.
I am transracoon.
transexuality is totally fine, its a bit weird but it's really not that "out there."
transpecies is full blown crazy
This is what happens when you're coddled in an environment when you have easy access to a group of people who share the same delusion as you and you're left with an echo chamber of weirdos.
[QUOTE=Katatonic717;47049909]No you couldn't. If you wear some stupid shit and they tell you to take it off, and you go "NO ITS MY RELIGION" I will bet you they won't give a fuck.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/17/pastafarian-drivers-license/19200447/"]Actually, there's legal precedent saying that I can, at least in driver's license photos.[/URL]
The entire reason that the church was made up was because a school in the US was teaching religion to students under the guise that it was teaching "every religion" so it was ok - so some guy made up pastafarianism in order to force them to teach it.
[QUOTE=RetaDepa;47050064]This is what happens when you're coddled in an environment when you have easy access to a group of people who share the same delusion as you and you're left with an echo chamber of weirdos.[/QUOTE]
What a time to be alive.
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