• Vemma Energy Drinks? Scam or not? You tell me facepunch.
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Alright so, this is really getting on my nerves but there is a kid that keeps on boasting to me about these energy drinks called [URL="http://www.vemma.com/verveenergy/"]"Verve"[/URL] that is distributed by a company by the name of "Vemma". This company by no means, uses any form of advertising other than word of mouth, which is where this becomes very controversial and skeptical. Vemma has a program that they do where they can distribute massive amounts of their energy drinks through something that at first appears to be a Pyramid Scheme, but as this video here will explain there is a possibilty its legitimate, and a loophole with the pyramid scheme idea. My friend claims to be making over $1200/week from this now, and the more people he gets into his "Vemma Pyramid" the more money he makes! What's more is that the energy drinks Vemma ships to you, the company DOES NOT care what you do with them, you can drink them or you can sell them for your own personal profit. I am not asking you guys if I personally should trust this or even try it, because I do not plan on doing so, all I'm trying to do is help my friend from avoiding a massive shitstorm in the near future. because after he started this, he's decided to drop out of school and never go back and just sit on his ass all day. [video=youtube;wKW4PtfwRVg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKW4PtfwRVg[/video] The video makes the whole concept very convincing, but the real catch is that the people joining your "Vemma Pyramid" have to pay a membership fee of like.. $150 for bronze, $500 for silver, and $1000 for gold. Each membership apparently gives you better benefits in the pyramid, and ships you even more energy drinks. So you tell me facepunch, what should my friend do?; Stop before it's too late? or just forget it?
It's probably nothing more than your average pyramid scheme. There are some pyramid schemes that work, and people do make money with these, but only those who are early adopters (Those at the top of the pyramid). If you're anything but the first couple of people to get in on this then the "membership" fee you pay is basically fueling those above you and you're stuck trying to sucker more people into it in order to turn a profit.
pretty much everything you said screams pyramid scheme, gonna watch the video now though
Either a pyramid scheme or a ponzi scheme.
correction, [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilevel_marketing[/url] just listen to the way/what the guy says, it's sketchy as hell
Mandatory: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXnEXXVG8u4[/media]
Is there a part 2?
energy drinks are serious business
I was pretty much expecting him to pull out a vacuum cleaner or a set of Cutco knives. If it's too good to be true... but of course dumb kids who think they're too good for real work eat this shit up like candy. If all the rainbows and sunshine that guy was blowing up their asses was legitimate this wouldn't be set on the youtube page: [img]http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/821/sureman.png[/img]
One of my schoolmates for the first 4 months of school. Pushed this cum in a can to everyone. And he kept telling everyone to join him. I went to one of the meetings. It was creepy as hell.
Ahh quit saying dude
tyhis its NOT a scam!!!!!!!!!!! do it :')
I actually got offered to be a part of something exactly like this nearly a week ago. An acquaintance called me and asked if I was looking for work etc. He handed the phone to his 'mentor' to explain this was about. He never actually told me what was the job or anything but he wanted to meet at a Caribou coffee. It was a public place, not too far away, so I went off to this 'interview'. So at this 'interview' he starts talking about investing and money, not really to the point of the job. I ask him what exactly this job is offering. Well then he pulls out this pad of paper and starts drawing a pyramid with me in the top. Talks about how he can mentor me to make money selling products. Oh but also, I can refer people to the program to sell products as well and make a portion of their money. He concludes his talk about how much money I can make by only working 2-5 hours a week. On my drive home, It hit me its a Multilevel marketing scheme. I called him and told him to fuck off. Even though it isn't a pyramid scheme by definition, it still requires YOU to refer people into the program for your payout to be even worth it. Not to mention the guy who referred you is making part of your money.
It'd be nice to be at the top of these dumb scams, at least those guys are probably making decent money.
[QUOTE=Aman VII;40153673]It'd be nice to be at the top of these dumb scams, at least those guys are probably making decent money.[/QUOTE] you could always just start one, assuming you have the necessary charisma
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I don't get why people bash on this multi-level marketing/pyramid scheme. Vemma is still young compared to the saturated markets of Amway, Mary Kay, and Avon. Everyone agree that the best time to hop on board one of these things is while it's still young. I'm not seeing the issue here. I would see it being an issue about 5 years from now, but not at this point in time. I've tried their energy drinks and they're pretty good and for the cost of a one month supply, it's comes out cheaper than a one month supply of Monster and Red Bull.
Pretty much all pyramid schemes are scams and are illegal. The way they go around the illegality of it is by offering an actual product that your money gets you, ala these energy drinks
This made me chuckle [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ncTFmI2.png[/IMG]
Since this was bumped I might as well link to a thread that is actually slightly newer than this one. In this one a guy tries to convince everyone that "it's totally definitely not a pyramid scheme" [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1271550[/url]
I will admit that it will collapse some day. Will it be some day soon? No. As I said in my previous post, even the older companies like Mary Kay, ACM (which is a total joke), Amway, Herbalife, and Avon have not collapsed with their pyramid business model. I am just in it to make some decent cash on the side of college. I really don't care if someone two years from now gets screwed over from signing up with this. Hell, even the Penn & Teller video in that other thread said that joining a pyramid scheme-like company can be beneficial in its early stages.
[QUOTE=progamer3054;42272800]I will admit that it will collapse some day. Will it be some day soon? No. As I said in my previous post, even the older companies like Mary Kay, ACM (which is a total joke), Amway, Herbalife, and Avon have not collapsed with their pyramid business model. I am just in it to make some decent cash on the side of college. I really don't care if someone two years from now gets screwed over from signing up with this. Hell, even the Penn & Teller video in that other thread said that joining a pyramid scheme-like company can be beneficial in its early stages.[/QUOTE] Thing is, you will always be screwing the guys on the bottom of the pyramid, otherwise the system just won't work.
I wouldn't care if it was a pyramid scheme if the drink didn't taste like shit- which sadly it does. Some of my friends did try this and they weren't successful because of that very basic fact.
I have a strong dislike for companies like Vemma, HerbaLife, and all the others because they prey on uninformed people. I personally struggle on a day-to-day basis trying to help people achieve fitness goals, but they keep getting sucked into stupid schemes like this, spending their money on what is essentially snake oil. Fucking sucks when I tell someone they just need to eat less and lift heavier, then they come to me going, "Hey man I'm gonna try this vemma bullshit cause I heard it works and I'm going to disregard all of your advice and blah blah blah I don't need to eat less because of this special drink." Sad how companies like this become so successful simply because people are so stupid and impatient. All you have to do is promise fast results without any effort and they will soak it all up like a sponge.
I've heard that this stuff tastes like ass, so good luck selling it to anyone except unsuspecting people. Meanwhile they just ship you truckloads more of that shit when you can't even sell what you have.
I do remember someone here on the forum got banned on the forum for trying to advocate the stuff and yes, it's a pyramid scheme.
Augh, I hate seeing the disingenuous enthusiasm people show for these kinds of products. Here's some advice for you OP: if you really care about your friend help, otherwise sever all contact with him because he will be annoying the shit out of you with this stuff. And worst of all he may actually get a few of your other friends to tag along with.
[QUOTE=M2k3;40149696]I was pretty much expecting him to pull out a vacuum cleaner or a set of Cutco knives. If it's too good to be true... but of course dumb kids who think they're too good for real work eat this shit up like candy. If all the rainbows and sunshine that guy was blowing up their asses was legitimate this wouldn't be set on the youtube page: [img]http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/821/sureman.png[/img][/QUOTE] My Flatmate worked for Cutco, massive, massive fucking scam. Also, all of these schemes seem to have a young 20 something handsome guy advertising this kind of shit. The guy who does cutco around here is a massive shitlord who creeps on 19-20 year-olds on campus to get them to work for him.
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;42273690]I have a strong dislike for companies like Vemma, HerbaLife, and all the others because they prey on uninformed people. I personally struggle on a day-to-day basis trying to help people achieve fitness goals, but they keep getting sucked into stupid schemes like this, spending their money on what is essentially snake oil. Fucking sucks when I tell someone they just need to eat less and lift heavier, then they come to me going, "Hey man I'm gonna try this vemma bullshit cause I heard it works and I'm going to disregard all of your advice and blah blah blah I don't need to eat less because of this special drink." Sad how companies like this become so successful simply because people are so stupid and impatient. All you have to do is promise fast results without any effort and they will soak it all up like a sponge.[/QUOTE] does it never clue into people when the stuff does not work.?
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;42277672]does it never clue into people when the stuff does not work.?[/QUOTE] Apparently not, "there's a sucker born every minute". I don't know why people find these things appealing at all, they don't pay you for shit and you end up buying thousands of bucks worth of crap that no one will buy from you, how the hell does that sound like a GOOD IDEA??????? My friend got caught into selling some of that stuff (some bs herbal supplements) and she learned her lesson after I told her don't get involved, that's all I gotta say. She is somewhat poor too, I think that is another thing that reels people in, they think they will actually make money on these things. The only people who make money are the people who made the scheme in the first place. [QUOTE=Zeos;42274266]My Flatmate worked for Cutco, massive, massive fucking scam. Also, all of these schemes seem to have a young 20 something handsome guy advertising this kind of shit. The guy who does cutco around here is a massive shitlord who creeps on 19-20 year-olds on campus to get them to work for him.[/QUOTE] A few of my friends worked for Cutco too, wouldn't say it's a pyramid scheme (something else) but they definitely take advantage of young people. (IE long hours, overworking people, no leniency on schedules... etc etc.) It drove two of my friends NUTS. They just couldn't take it anymore. One of them still works there, I told him he's wasting his time and effort but he wouldn't listen. Oh well. Their knives are WAY overpriced for what they are. You can buy a nice set of German ones like Henckels for half the price. The good ones too. There's no reason for them not to pay the employees more money.
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