great idea, shoot and potentially kill some guys that are trying to steal either a) £20 from your wallet and your insured bank card or b) your insured car
the gun the robber is using looks like it'd explode rather than shoot too. and it's not like some lowly muggers are actually going to murder you over a car they can probably only shift for a couple of hundred quid anyway
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[QUOTE=zerosix;49336619]great idea, shoot and potentially kill some guys that are trying to steal either a) £20 from your wallet and your insured bank card or b) your insured car
the gun the robber is using looks like it'd explode rather than shoot too. and it's not like some lowly muggers are actually going to murder you over a car they can probably only shift for a couple of hundred quid anyway[/QUOTE]
OH BOY HERE WE GO
I'm going to go ahead and put in my response:
They had a [I]gun.[/I] You do not trust a badguy with a gun. Period. Because there is just as much of a chance that even after they steal your shit they shoot you anyway.
the guy even gets out of the car as if he's going to chase down and shoot the other cunt
what the fuck? he's running away, you can't claim that he even shot them in self defence
[editline]17th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;49336630]OH BOY HERE WE GO
I'm going to go ahead and put in my response:
They had a [I]gun.[/I] You do not trust a badguy with a gun. Period. [I]Because there is just as much of a chance that even after they steal your shit they shoot you anyway.[/I][/QUOTE]
no there fucking isn't. burglars/muggers/robbers etc use weapons as scare tactics, someone that is breaking into your house/stealing your wallet/car/bike etc for very little monetary gain is not someone that is also planning on just fucking killing you for a laugh
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336631]the guy even gets out of the car as if he's going to chase down and shoot the other cunt
what the fuck? he's running away, you can't claim that he even shot them in self defence
[editline]17th December 2015[/editline]
no there fucking isn't. burglars/muggers/robbers etc use weapons as scare tactics, someone that is breaking into your house/stealing your wallet/car/bike etc for very little monetary gain is not someone that is also planning on just fucking killing you for a laugh[/QUOTE]
This video is from Brazil, where murder-robberies aren't uncommon.
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336631]the guy even gets out of the car as if he's going to chase down and shoot the other cunt
what the fuck? he's running away, you can't claim that he even shot them in self defence
[editline]17th December 2015[/editline]
no there fucking isn't. burglars/muggers/robbers etc use weapons as scare tactics, someone that is breaking into your house/stealing your wallet/car/bike etc for very little monetary gain is not someone that is also planning on just fucking killing you for a laugh[/QUOTE]
Uhhhh people get shot during/after robberies all the time.
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336631]the guy even gets out of the car as if he's going to chase down and shoot the other cunt
what the fuck? he's running away, you can't claim that he even shot them in self defence
[editline]17th December 2015[/editline]
no there fucking isn't. burglars/muggers/robbers etc use weapons as scare tactics, someone that is breaking into your house/stealing your wallet/car/bike etc for very little monetary gain is not someone that is also planning on just fucking killing you for a laugh[/QUOTE]
if someone is stealing your shit just let em go, not like you have any self-worth whatsoever
someone pointing a gun at you? dont defend yourself, they PROBABLY won't kill you
no one ever gets shot in robberies
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336631]the guy even gets out of the car as if he's going to chase down and shoot the other cunt
[editline]17th December 2015[/editline]
no there fucking isn't. burglars/muggers/robbers etc use weapons as scare tactics, someone that is breaking into your house/stealing your wallet/car/bike etc for very little monetary gain is not someone that is also planning on just fucking killing you for a laugh[/QUOTE]
There's nothing to suggest that he would go as far as to chase the other guy down to shoot him, calm down.
As for the scare tactic thing, I don't know about you but I'm certainly not going to be thinking about that if a gun is being pointed at me.
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336631]the guy even gets out of the car as if he's going to chase down and shoot the other cunt
what the fuck? he's running away, you can't claim that he even shot them in self defence
[editline]17th December 2015[/editline]
no there fucking isn't. burglars/muggers/robbers etc use weapons as scare tactics, someone that is breaking into your house/stealing your wallet/car/bike etc for very little monetary gain is not someone that is also planning on just fucking killing you for a laugh[/QUOTE]
Tell that to my friend who got shot 3 times [I]after[/I] giving up his phone, keys, wallet, and was walking away from them. He cooperated. Gave them damn near everything, was completely unarmed, and still got shot and almost died. So don't fucking tell me that it doesn't happen because it does. Does it happen [I]all the time?[/I] No, but it happens, and I am [I]not[/I] taking that chance when my life or the life of someone I know is on the line.
[QUOTE=Mr Flexi;49336665]There's nothing to suggest that he would go as far as to chase the other guy down to shoot him, calm down.
As for the scare tactic thing, I don't know about you but I'm certainly not going to be thinking about that if a gun is being pointed at me.[/QUOTE]
alright well we're different people. you can clearly see that the guy in the gray jacket runs away the second he thinks that the man in the car is going to pull a weapon. the robbers have absolutely no intention of shooting. if you ask me, the guy in the car needs some sort of mental evaluation because what i see there is some straight up bloodlust. he shot to try and kill/seriously injure the two of them despite the fact that they were running or about to run away and he clearly wasn't in any danger
you are all entitled to your opinions i guess, i just hope there are some other rational people that read this and agree with mine
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336689]alright well we're different people. you can clearly see that the guy in the gray jacket runs away the second he thinks that the man in the car is going to pull a weapon. the robbers have absolutely no intention of shooting. if you ask me, the guy in the car needs some sort of mental evaluation because what i see there is some straight up bloodlust. he shot to try and kill/seriously injure the two of them despite the fact that they were running or about to run away and he clearly wasn't in any danger
you are all entitled to your opinions i guess, i just hope there are some other rational people that read this and agree with mine[/QUOTE]
I never suggested that I completely agreed with what he did in the situation, considering they ran before he started shooting it was almost probably not required.
You just jumped to some crazy conclusions and assumptions.
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336689]alright well we're different people. you can clearly see that the guy in the gray jacket runs away the second he thinks that the man in the car is going to pull a weapon. the robbers have absolutely no intention of shooting. if you ask me, the guy in the car needs some sort of mental evaluation because what i see there is some straight up bloodlust. he shot to try and kill/seriously injure the two of them despite the fact that they were running or about to run away and he clearly wasn't in any danger
you are all entitled to your opinions i guess, i just hope there are some other rational people that read this and agree with mine[/QUOTE]
You are a gigantic wuss. If someone pulls a gun on me, and I have an opportunity to draw my own, you bet your ass I'm going to and I'm going to unload as fast as I can. You don't fuck around with "maybe" and "probably" and "if" when your life is on the line.
Guys he pointed a gun at him. If someone pointed a gun at you with intent or not you have the right to defend your self.
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336689]alright well we're different people. you can clearly see that the guy in the gray jacket runs away the second he thinks that the man in the car is going to pull a weapon. the robbers have absolutely no intention of shooting.[/QUOTE]
You cannot know that for certain. Goes back to that whole "don't trust the gunman" thing.
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336689][B] if you ask me, the guy in the car needs some sort of mental evaluation because what i see there is some straight up bloodlust.[/B][/QUOTE]
Self defense= bloodlust. Aight.
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336689]he shot to try and kill/seriously injure the two of them despite the fact that they were running or about to run away and he [B]clearly wasn't in any danger[/B] [/QUOTE]
Again, can't know that, they had a gun, don't trust them.
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336689]
you are all entitled to your opinions i guess, i just hope there are [B]some other rational people [/B]that read this and agree with mine[/QUOTE]
And we're irrational because we don't like dying. Aight.
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336619]great idea, shoot and potentially kill some guys that are trying to steal either a) £20 from your wallet and your insured bank card or b) your insured car
the gun the robber is using looks like it'd explode rather than shoot too. and it's not like some lowly muggers are actually going to murder you over a car they can probably only shift for a couple of hundred quid anyway[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336631]the guy even gets out of the car as if he's going to chase down and shoot the other cunt
what the fuck? he's running away, you can't claim that he even shot them in self defence
[editline]17th December 2015[/editline]
no there fucking isn't. burglars/muggers/robbers etc use weapons as scare tactics, someone that is breaking into your house/stealing your wallet/car/bike etc for very little monetary gain is not someone that is also planning on just fucking killing you for a laugh[/QUOTE]
This is why you never go full retard.
First of all, that is your decision. I respect your right to be spineless and get shot in the face. You may live in la-la-land-suburbia, but a lot of robberies end in violence. Yes there are many robberies that leave the victim alive, but that is a risk the person has to want to take. What is good for you, isn't good for others.
Also how did you get the driver chasing people down? It isn't shown in the video, you can see him getting out. That is it...so great assumption.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;49336730]You cannot know that for certain. Goes back to that whole "don't trust the gunman" thing.
[B]
Self defense= bloodlust. Aight.[/B]
Again, can't know that, they had a gun, don't trust them.
And we're irrational because we don't like dying. Aight.[/QUOTE]
watch the video again. the man in the car wasn't in any danger at the time he started pulling the trigger.
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336619]great idea, shoot and potentially kill some guys that are trying to steal either a) £20 from your wallet and your insured bank card or b) your insured car
the gun the robber is using looks like it'd explode rather than shoot too. and it's not like some lowly muggers are actually going to murder you over a car they can probably only shift for a couple of hundred quid anyway[/QUOTE]
Just for anybody subscribing to this bullshit, this kind of second guessing and garbage situational analysis doesn't exist when you you have a gun pulled on you.
Unbelievable. This is how you get robbed and potentially killed.
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336739]watch the video again. the man in the car wasn't in any danger at the time he started pulling the trigger.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't in any [b]apparent[/b] danger. You're really presumptuous for someone who wasn't in the situation.
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336739]watch the video again. the man in the car wasn't in any danger at the time he started pulling the trigger.[/QUOTE]
mm yes the man was perfectly safe while at gunpoint from two robbers right guys :downs:
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336739]watch the video again. the man in the car wasn't in any danger at the time he started pulling the trigger.[/QUOTE]
But [I]they had a GUN.[/I]
Unless you can look at that situation and tell me with [I]100% crystal clear certainty[/I] that they would [I]never[/I] have used that gun, then you are making assumptions about someone who could [B]end your life[/B] with a mere 5 pounds of exerted effort.
If you want to make that gamble, fine, but do not fault someone else for valuing their own life more than you value yours.
[QUOTE=Jacob_sword;49336726]Guys he pointed a gun at him. If someone pointed a gun at you with intent or not you have the right to defend your self.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this, however defending yourself is not the same as shooting people that are running away from you
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336689]alright well we're different people. you can clearly see that the guy in the gray jacket runs away the second he thinks that the man in the car is going to pull a weapon. the robbers have absolutely no intention of shooting. if you ask me, the guy in the car needs some sort of mental evaluation because what i see there is some straight up bloodlust. he shot to try and kill/seriously injure the two of them despite the fact that they were running or about to run away and he clearly wasn't in any danger
you are all entitled to your opinions i guess, i just hope there are some other rational people that read this and agree with mine[/QUOTE]
I almost guarantee he gets out to check on the guy he shot. If he was going to chase down the other person he would be a lot quicker than he was.
Also yeah they clearly didn't have the iteration to shoot. Where'd you get that bullshit from? You can't know for certain when someone has a gun to your face. My first instinct would be to draw on that fucker as well. Guy deserved it. The guy clearly is in his right state of mind.
[editline]17th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336761]I agree with this, however defending yourself is not the same as shooting people that are running away from you[/QUOTE]
He wasn't shooting the guy running away for fucks sake.
[QUOTE=redBadger;49336764]I almost guarantee he gets out to check on the guy he shot. If he was going to chase down the other person he would be a lot quicker than he was.
Also yeah they clearly didn't have the iteration to shoot. Where'd you get that bullshit from? You can't know for certain when someone has a gun to your face. My first instinct would be to draw on that fucker as well. Guy deserved it. The guy clearly is in his right state of mind.
[editline]17th December 2015[/editline]
[B]He wasn't shooting the guy running away for fucks sake.[/B][/QUOTE]
I know. Nobody can say for sure that he was planning on doing so either, but the fact that he was getting out of the car and checking the mirrors while waving the gun out of the window as the guy ran away (also looking at his body language etc) makes [B]me[/B] think that he had intention to.
As well as that, the guy on the bike from what I can see on the video was unarmed and was trying to wheel the bike backwards to get away before he got shot.
[QUOTE=Aetna;49336744]Wasn't in any [b]apparent[/b] danger. You're really presumptuous for someone who wasn't in the situation.[/QUOTE]
Seriously, he's watching a video and seeing the resolution of the situation. Based on the resolution of this particular case hes determining the intents of the robbers.
How naive
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336739]watch the video again. the man in the car wasn't in any danger at the time he started pulling the trigger.[/QUOTE]
Oh my god. Are you being serious right now?
If you are going to rob someone by threatening him or hers life, you have to basically accept the fact that you may be the one ending up dead. If that had been me, i would have definately did the same and maybe tried to shoot the runner in the leg because i wouldnt have known if he was just going to run some cover to shoot back.
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336631]the guy even gets out of the car as if he's going to chase down and shoot the other cunt
what the fuck? he's running away, you can't claim that he even shot them in self defence
[editline]17th December 2015[/editline]
no there fucking isn't. burglars/muggers/robbers etc use weapons as scare tactics, someone that is breaking into your house/stealing your wallet/car/bike etc for very little monetary gain is not someone that is also planning on just fucking killing you for a laugh[/QUOTE]
Have you seen videos or read news articles on how people like these 2 just kill like its nothing? You would end up dead very easily if you don't defend yourself. who knows how many drugs has taken or psycological problems the robber has. People do this shit on cocain man
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336631]the guy even gets out of the car as if he's going to chase down and shoot the other cunt
what the fuck? he's running away, you can't claim that he even shot them in self defence
[editline]17th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE]There's even a chance that they might shoot you after they steal your stuff[/QUOTE]
[b]no there fucking isn't.[/b] burglars/muggers/robbers etc use weapons as scare tactics, someone that is breaking into your house/stealing your wallet/car/bike etc for very little monetary gain is not someone that is also planning on just fucking killing you for a laugh[/QUOTE]
Holy fuck; you need some perspective.
Seriously. What you just displayed is a [i]shocking[/i] ignorance to how the real world is.
[QUOTE=Aetna;49336744]Wasn't in any [b]apparent[/b] danger. You're really presumptuous for someone who wasn't in the situation.[/QUOTE]
come on dude the robber started running as soon as he pulled his gun. why do you then have to shoot at him and later get out of the car to probably start chasing him? wtf
[QUOTE=zerosix;49336739]watch the video again. the man in the car wasn't in any danger at the time he started pulling the trigger.[/QUOTE]
He was being robbed at gunpoint by two assailants. What would you do? Give up and maybe live to call the police?
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