"We didn't allow Joe Camel to encourage your kids to smoke cigarettes, and we shouldn't allow Star Wars to encourage your kids to gamble"
Lol I can only imagine how Disney feels about this comment. Mickey Mouse (the CEO of Disney) is going to be pissed.
Oh my god, you know what this means?
This will end with Trump vs. EA
He has a chance to not veto the inevitable bans (and to not side with the corporations)
Trump is going to save gaming.
[QUOTE=rrunyan;52913866]Oh my god, you know what this means?
This will end with Trump vs. EA
He has a chance to not veto the inevitable bans (and to not side with the corporations)
Trump is going to save gaming.[/QUOTE]
That is until he sees how profitable it could be, and then he'll make it even worse.
He'll make it unavailable to Mexico aswell somehow!
Serious question: What does that mother mean when she says she can't control it, and that these children are being enticed into gambling with money they don't have? Are there alternative payment methods in these games that children can access (aside from credit cards, PayPals, and other stuff that children do not have access to), that are enabling them to make these purchases? Or are there concerns that gambling addiction and gambling withdrawal can take a toll on children's minds as they develop because they physically cannot make the purchases? I don't really play these games so I have no idea.
[editline]22nd November 2017[/editline]
Like sometimes I go into gaming stores and you can buy gaming gift cards with cash and no age restriction. Is that's what's happening here?
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;52915652]Serious question: What does that mother mean when she says she can't control it, and that these children are being enticed into gambling with money they don't have? Are there alternative payment methods in these games that children can access (aside from credit cards, PayPals, and other stuff that children do not have access to), that are enabling them to make these purchases? Or are there concerns that gambling addiction and gambling withdrawal can take a toll on children's minds as they develop because they physically cannot make the purchases? I don't really play these games so I have no idea.
[editline]22nd November 2017[/editline]
Like sometimes I go into gaming stores and you can buy gaming gift cards with cash and no age restriction. Is that's what's happening here?[/QUOTE]
There have been a handful of cases where a child would ask their parents if they could buy something for their game, and the credit card information would save, allowing them to make many micro-transactions without it going noticed.
Children don't realize that when they use their parent's card to level up their character in a game that it costs real money, and usually they don't understand the value of money.
For example; my friend's cable bill was $500 once in our teen years, since their parents gave one of them the code to buy a $1 episode of something on Comcast's On Demand, then they all just went crazy with buying episodes of tv shows and movies because all 4 of them new the code but didn't communicate when they used it.
The same thing is happening in video games today. Kids will ask to use a card once, then overspend and overcharge credit cards for randomized unlockables or power-ups in games, spending money that their family can't afford to be spending. Since they aren't communicating every time they buy something online, the parents don't see it until it's too late.
If they're like me(I'm 25, not a kid anymore) then they also control their parents' money since their parents are tech illiterate and need to go through them to buy things online or pay bills. I think I've had control over my parents since like 2004 when I first managed to convince my parents that buying stuff from the internet is safe.
It would not surprise me that a lot of children control their parents' paypal accounts or would have written down or memorized their credit/debit card info
I don't wanna downplay that this stuff is bad but I feel like some of that responsibility falls to the cardholders. Making sure that you're there when children are making purchases with your cards, making sure details don't get saved (I make it a point to never let Amazon or Steam or anything save my credit card information), watching their bank statements to make sure unusual charges aren't being made, explaining to your children how money works and safeguarding against (normal) thieving behaviour in young children, etc. Normal stuff about having a credit card, especially with children. Being responsible with our finances isn't just "one more thing" we gotta worry about as parents, it's a thing we've been responsible for as adults.
Again I don't wanna talk shit on parents who might've had stuff like that happen but at some point that responsibility stops being the company's and starts being the parents'. It's good that steps are being taken but I don't want the videogame boogie-man being a thing that's vilified again when parents should be taking steps to safeguard their finances in the first place. And if parents are letting these things happen in the first place, legislation saying that this is gambling isn't going to stop these parents from having those things happen anyway because they already don't understand the technology and how to protect themsleves.
I'm not saying that these steps aren't good, or that this is a bad idea. But you're still responsible for your children. I don't want parents to blame companies for their failures, when they need to be educated about finances and the internet especially if they fundamentally don't understand financing in an increasingly digital world. I feel like there are deeper problems about education for adults and financing, especially as parents, that also exist and should not be ignored.
[editline]22nd November 2017[/editline]
To go a bit extreme with a metaphor, if you're a parent and you leave a gun or a sharp knife lying around and your child hurts themselves with it, then that's your responsibility. If you're a parent and you're leaving your credit card information around and your child can access it without supervision... Companies that are trying to lure immature kids into making these purchases for the sake of money, trying to prey on naive children, do need to be held accountable, I agree, but some of that responsibility is also on you.
Just my two cents.
Where the money comes from is honestly irrelevant, it's the habit and the thrill of gambling and seeing it as a good/fun thing that is dangerous.
[QUOTE=rrunyan;52913866]Oh my god, you know what this means?
This will end with Trump vs. EA
He has a chance to not veto the inevitable bans (and to not side with the corporations)
Trump is going to save gaming.[/QUOTE]
This is Hawaii we're talking about, the place that dared to say that Obama was born there. Trump would support EA obviously because of that.
Again, I feel the need to stress: I'm not arguing that these steps shouldn't be taken. I'm just saying there may be a bigger problem with security and privacy as it pertains to family that is allowing this to happen at all. A problem with financial, tech, and privacy illiteracy that can be seriously impacting families as well.
Crazy to think something like this blew up so much.
I'm glad.
[QUOTE=rrunyan;52913866]Oh my god, you know what this means?
This will end with Trump vs. EA
He has a chance to not veto the inevitable bans (and to not side with the corporations)
Trump is going to save gaming.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't see heroics like that from HillEAry!
honestly at this point it going so public means disney is gonna be [I]irate[/I] with EA over this, and i'd expect them to do something in the next few days
or maybe not, but their recent case with that newspaper they were suppressing means they should probably not try their luck
[QUOTE=Swiket;52913584]"We didn't allow Joe Camel to encourage your kids to smoke cigarettes, and we shouldn't allow Star Wars to encourage your kids to gamble"
Lol I can only imagine how Disney feels about this comment. Mickey Mouse (the CEO of Disney) is going to be pissed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=paindoc;52915933]honestly at this point it going so public means disney is gonna be [I]irate[/I] with EA over this, and i'd expect them to do something in the next few days
or maybe not, but their recent case with that newspaper they were suppressing means they should probably not try their luck[/QUOTE]
I'll be shocked if they don't throw EA under the bus at this point TBH
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;52915599]That is until he sees how profitable it could be, and then he'll make it even worse.
He'll make it unavailable to Mexico aswell somehow![/QUOTE]
I don't think so. Bob Iger has always made the public perception of everything Disney to be a high priority
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;52916001]I don't think so. Bob Iger has always made the public perception of everything Disney to be a high priority[/QUOTE]
The Star Wars IP is worth far more than one video game and it's gotten to a point where it's making the franchise look bad. That fucking soundbite quoted above! Battlefront is a drop in the bucket comparatively
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