• Armed robbery goes wrong when war vet is behind the counter
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knIyqbxYkfI[/media]
Now just in case you missed it. Here it is in bad slow motion
imagine the moment, they both look in each others eyes and one of them has to back off, but the vet had the advantage as he pulled his gun right into his face that's some intense shit!
The way this scene plays out is almost right out of an action movie, it's kinda surreal...
"Ha! nice try to grab my weapon you... oh"
Look at his sick slicked back hair You don't fuck with a guy like that
The robber was practically asking for this when he continued to stick his face and body out over the counter while holding his gun back. At least it looked like he was hesitant to use it when the cashier went to grab for it, and good thing no one got shot.
The man handled it really well, pretty surprised that the robber just walked away
It'd be awesome if he said something like "I was trained to kill" while he had his gun at the robber like that.
[QUOTE=Mr.Brown;42085626]The man handled it really well, pretty surprised that the robber just walked away[/QUOTE] Robbers do what they do because they think they have the advantage. Most clerks are unarmed.
That pause as the robber [I]sloooowwlly[/I] looks down at the gun Fucking priceless. The first smart thing that robber did was just back off.
That robber looks like a nasty piece of shit, just look at him coming into the store with a cigarette in his hand and probably buzz-headed off of some shit.
I've never understood people who try to rob places without covering their face. I mean you'd have to have been living under a pretty heavy-duty rock for the past 20 years to not realise that it's in every fucking shop.
The robber clearly had no intention to hurt him at all, otherwise he would've shot him the moment he went for his gun. I'm glad nobody had to to die for a few dollars.
[QUOTE=DrDevil;42086063]The robber clearly had no intention to hurt him at all, otherwise he would've shot him the moment he went for his gun. I'm glad nobody had to to die for a few dollars.[/QUOTE] How would he shoot him? The robber had the gun behind his back and the clerk had his hand in a way that he would block the robber from raising his gun.
[QUOTE=DrDevil;42086063]The robber clearly had no intention to hurt him at all, otherwise he would've shot him the moment he went for his gun. I'm glad nobody had to to die for a few dollars.[/QUOTE] Robbers never want to actually shoot the clerks, they just want the money. If they kill someone they'll be in a lot more trouble once they're caught. The guns are just a threat to assert dominance.
Would have been great if the place also had the doors that lock up until police arrive. It's fun to watch robbers freak out.
[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;42086178]Robbers never want to actually shoot the clerks, they just want the money. If they kill someone they'll be in a lot more trouble once they're caught. The guns are just a threat to assert dominance.[/QUOTE] And right after that is when they show their plumage are you a nature documentary narrator or something?
[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;42086178]Robbers never want to actually shoot the clerks, they just want the money. If they kill someone they'll be in a lot more trouble once they're caught. The guns are just a threat to assert dominance.[/QUOTE] They NEVER want to? How do you explain the times robbers shoot clerks, or take them in the back and execute them? Never, eh? You live in a fantasy world. I'm tired of people pinning the robber as just someone on hard times not wanting to hurt anyone. Then why the hell do they carry loaded guns? Pointing a deadly weapon at someone is indication and purpose that you wish to do them harm of they do not comply. He's lucky the clerk in this case did not just send a round through his skull. It would have been fully justified.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;42090102]They NEVER want to? How do you explain the times robbers shoot clerks, or take them in the back and execute them? Never, eh? You live in a fantasy world. I'm tired of people pinning the robber as just someone on hard times not wanting to hurt anyone. Then why the hell do they carry loaded guns? Pointing a deadly weapon at someone is indication and purpose that you wish to do them harm of they do not comply. He's lucky the clerk in this case did not just send a round through his skull. It would have been fully justified.[/QUOTE] Robbers a [I]majority of the time[/I] don't bring a gun to kill somebody. There are always exceptions, but a lot of shootings are caused from panic or stress rather than a actual willingness to hurt a clerk, if I remember correctly.
That was perfect, the look on that guy's face when he noticed that he had a gun right in his face. That couldn't have went better, the robber could've just backed up a little bit and shot him, but he was dumb enough to be close to the counter and try to stick the gun in the vet's face. I heard that if you were to hold someone up, you do it from a distance, not right in their face, works for intimidation on an untrained person, but someone that knows how to disarm someone will most likely disarm you if you're right in their face.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;42090102]Pointing a deadly weapon at someone is indication and purpose that you wish to do them harm of they do not comply. He's lucky the clerk in this case did not just send a round through his skull. It would have been fully justified.[/QUOTE] Except it's usually just much better to give them the money and let the police clean up after. Robberies wouldn't be robberies if there was an intention to injure or kill, that's premeditated murder instead. Again, there are exceptions, but there is a good reason people in general shouldn't increase a situation. This guy read the situation well and handled himself calmly and with authority, he did awesome. But I've seen so many videos where the clerk pulls out a gun and nearly gets his arse killed. it's not worth it.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;42086092]How would he shoot him? The robber had the gun behind his back and the clerk had his hand in a way that he would block the robber from raising his gun.[/QUOTE] If he came to the store to shoot the clerk, he would have shot through his hand and the bullet would have hit him in the gut before he could pull out his pistol. And then shot him a few more times. There was a good 2.5 to 3 second pause between the robber pulling out the gun and the shop owner pulling out another one and pointing it in his face. I doubt it takes that long to shoot someone. But he just wanted to get the money.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;42090921]If he came to the store to shoot the clerk, he would have shot through his hand and the bullet would have hit him in the gut before he could pull out his pistol. And then shot him a few more times. But he just wanted to get the money.[/QUOTE] The gun was facing the floor and it was behind the robbers back. He literally can't aim the gun at the clerk with him holding his hand like that from where he stands. The robber would have to take a step back while pulling the gun from around his back. More than enough time for the clerk to draw and squeeze. [editline]5th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=ultra_bright;42090921]There was a good 2.5 to 3 second pause between the robber pulling out the gun and the shop owner pulling out another one and pointing it in his face. I doubt it takes that long to shoot someone.[/QUOTE] You said "when the clerk went for his gun". Okay 1 the robber didn't even notice he was going for his gun before it was in his face and 2 it took the clerk around half a second to draw once he got a grip on it, less than 2 seconds if you want to count reaching behind his back.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;42090980]The gun was facing the floor and it was behind the robbers back. He literally can't aim the gun at the clerk with him holding his hand like that from where he stands. The robber would have to take a step back while pulling the gun from around his back. More than enough time for the clerk to draw and squeeze. [editline]5th September 2013[/editline] You said "when the clerk went for his gun". Okay 1 the robber didn't even notice he was going for his gun before it was in his face and 2 it took the clerk around half a second to draw once he got a grip on it, less than 2 seconds if you want to count reaching behind his back.[/QUOTE] Like I said, he could have still shot the clerk if he was there to kill him but he was only there for the money. Even if the clerk didn't have a gun and refused to listen to the robber I doubt he would still shoot the clerk. Its the same reason people just don't kill you and take the stuff off your dead body instead of mugging you. You don't seriously harm the victim or kill them when you're robbing them because that would just turn it into a murder. And If he was there to kill him I doubt him trying to block the robbers gun with his hand would do much.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;42091057]Like I said, he could have still shot the clerk if he was there to kill him but he was only there for the money. Even if the clerk didn't have a gun and refused to listen to the robber I doubt he would still shoot the clerk. Its the same reason people just don't kill you and take the stuff off your dead body instead of mugging you. You don't seriously harm the victim or kill them when you're robbing them because that would just turn it into a murder.[/QUOTE] I'm not even arguing against this. Obviously he was there for the money and wasn't planning on killing the clerk otherwise he would have shot him without any word from a safe distance before the clerk could do anything. I'm arguing that he couldn't have shot the clerk the moment the clerk was reaching for his gun. [QUOTE=ultra_bright;42091057]And If he was there to kill him I doubt him trying to block the robbers gun with his hand would do much.[/QUOTE] How difficult is this to understand? Clerk isn't blocking a bullet with his hand, he's blocking the robbers hand, in other words it's impossible for the robber to aim the gun at the clerk from where he stands with the clerk's hand there. The robber would have to take a step back.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;42091119]I'm not even arguing against this. Obviously he was there for the money and wasn't planning on killing the clerk otherwise he would have shot him without any word from a safe distance before the clerk could do anything. I'm arguing that he couldn't have shot the clerk the moment the clerk was reaching for his gun. How difficult is this to understand? Clerk isn't blocking a bullet with his hand, he's blocking the robbers hand, in other words it's impossible for the robber to aim the gun at the clerk from where he stands with the clerk's hand there. The robber would have to take a step back.[/QUOTE] I still think he could have shot the clerk while he was blocking his hand since his grip on the gun isn't as strong as the robbers. He could have shot him but he hesitated thinking he didn't have a gun. If he knew he was reaching for one this might have ended differently.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;42090102] You live in a fantasy world. I'm tired of people [B]pinning the robber as just someone on hard times not wanting to hurt anyone[/B].[/QUOTE] But I didn't even say any of that though And you put a little too much emphasis on the "never", I was generalizing petty robbery, not premeditated heists or other shit that this wasn't anywhere near. [QUOTE=HkSniper;42090102]Then why the hell do they carry loaded guns?[/QUOTE] To scare people into listening to them.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;42091170]I still think he could have shot the clerk while he was blocking his hand since his grip on the gun isn't as strong as the robbers. He could have shot him but he hesitated thinking he didn't have a gun. If he knew he was reaching for one this might have ended differently.[/QUOTE] But the clerk has a straight arm blocking the robber's hand. The robber would not be able to aim the gun at the clerk unless he would take a step back. Enough time for this particular clerk to draw and squeeze. Test this yourself. Put the hand behind your back. Try to point it straight ahead while your friend tries to block with his straight arm.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;42090102]They NEVER want to? How do you explain the times robbers shoot clerks, or take them in the back and execute them? Never, eh? You live in a fantasy world. I'm tired of people pinning the robber as just someone on hard times not wanting to hurt anyone. Then why the hell do they carry loaded guns? Pointing a deadly weapon at someone is indication and purpose that you wish to do them harm of they do not comply. He's lucky the clerk in this case did not just send a round through his skull. It would have been fully justified.[/QUOTE] 'robbers are the SCUM of humanity, hell they aren't even human and deserve nothing less than DEATH! what do you mean, most robbers are people who have literally reached rock bottom? ha! lies!'
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