I hate the "suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem" quote.
Mental illness is NOT a temporary problem, more often than not it will stick around with you forever.
[QUOTE=Tobin;45666544]I hate the "suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem" quote.
Mental illness is NOT a temporary problem, more often than not it will stick around with you forever.[/QUOTE]
The point is that mental illnesses can be treated in some form or another. Death can't.
[QUOTE=Keychain;45666549]The point is that mental illnesses can be treated in some form or another. Death can't.[/QUOTE]
It would be better if they said it like that, then. When my anxiety was worse hearing that quote would make me feel even worse, because it made me feel like I was the odd one out.
I had really, really bad anxiety for almost 10 years, and I was giving up on life.
When I started getting therapy and medication, while it was made better, I still have terrible anxiety, and hearing that quote still makes me angry because it makes people think that their mental illnesses will just go away like the flu or something.
It won't and people need to be told that instead of dumb things like "it's a [I]temporary[/I] problem!"
I'd say mental illness (anxiety and depression disorders specifically) are temporary problems, although very long temporary problems which can span out for a while. mental illness won't go away like a flu and requires a lot of work to properly get rid of, but I refuse to believe that it's something that is permanent. my father was suffering from both anxiety and depression disorders, and guess what, he lives life more confident than most people people I know. had a past of heavy drug abuse, playing women, generally a very shitty story behind him, and you won't even be able to tell.
anxiety and depression disorders are what you make them. in a mindset where they can't be fixed, all I can say is have fun making it unnecessarily permanent
[QUOTE=PredGD;45666614]I'd say mental illness (anxiety and depression disorders specifically) are temporary problems, although very long temporary problems which can span out for a while. mental illness won't go away like a flu and requires a lot of work to properly get rid of, but I refuse to believe that it's something that is permanent. my father was suffering from both anxiety and depression disorders, and guess what, he lives life more confident than most people people I know. had a past of heavy drug abuse, playing women, generally a very shitty story behind him, and you won't even be able to tell.
anxiety and depression disorders are what you make them. in a mindset where they can't be fixed, all I can say is have fun making it unnecessarily permanent[/QUOTE]
One example does not prove a point.
Quite a few mental illnesses are, in fact, permanent. Schizophrenia doesn't just go away (and treatment is lifelong), and neither does bipolar disorder. For some people, major depressive disorder is a lifelong thing. People get depressed when everything in their life is going well for them. Even children can get depression. A chemical imbalance in the brain can't just be changed by changing your mindset, much like you can't just simply walk it off when you break a leg.
The only things temporary about many mental illnesses are the symptoms. Even though your father may have changed his life for the better, please don't think it's something that anyone can do.
[QUOTE=Roshbitnak;45667384]One example does not prove a point.
Quite a few mental illnesses are, in fact, permanent. Schizophrenia doesn't just go away (and treatment is lifelong), and neither does bipolar disorder. For some people, major depressive disorder is a lifelong thing. People get depressed when everything in their life is going well for them. Even children can get depression. A chemical imbalance in the brain can't just be changed by changing your mindset, much like you can't just simply walk it off when you break a leg.
The only things temporary about many mental illnesses are the symptoms. Even though your father may have changed his life for the better, please don't think it's something that anyone can do.[/QUOTE]
those are permanent things, yeah, but I was specifically talking about anxiety and depression
when bringing up my father, I gave an example to why it isn't permanent. I'm not going to say that everyone can fix their depression and make a turn for the better, but I'm not going to say that no one can either. you may give up due to repeated failure (don't get me wrong, not trying to sound offensive or say anyone is weaker than anyone else), you may throw in the blanket too early, or you may solve it.
depression has no universal solution, but that doesn't mean anyone has to suffer from it permanently. in the end, it's up to each individual person if it'll be permanent or temporary
[QUOTE=PredGD;45667409]those are permanent things, yeah, but I was specifically talking about anxiety and depression
when bringing up my father, I gave an example to why it isn't permanent. I'm not going to say that everyone can fix their depression and make a turn for the better, but I'm not going to say that no one can either. you may give up due to repeated failure (don't get me wrong, not trying to sound offensive or say anyone is weaker than anyone else), you may throw in the blanket too early, or you may solve it.
depression has no universal solution, but that doesn't mean anyone has to suffer from it permanently. in the end, it's up to each individual person if it'll be permanent or temporary[/QUOTE]
I think his point is that like schizophrenia, depression is sometimes caused by physical things in your brain and can't be gotten rid of.
[QUOTE=Tobin;45666544]I hate the "suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem" quote.
Mental illness is NOT a temporary problem, more often than not it will stick around with you forever.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't go away though, you just learn how to deal with it, which no longer makes it a problem.
[QUOTE=idiot;45667526]I think his point is that like schizophrenia, depression is sometimes caused by physical things in your brain and can't be gotten rid of.[/QUOTE]
I haven't actually looked too much into that, do you mean a chemical imbalance? I was trying to google it but I don't know if I'm looking for the right thing.
if you're thinking of chemical imbalance, even that can be fixed, but it is a much longer process without special treatment. . from what I'm reading, about 50% of those who recover suffer from a relapse, so it's true it's much harder to recover from if you've reached the point where your brain has altered from the depression. even though it's much harder, I don't find it very positive that some people go around and say it's impossible to fix. it just disheartens depressed people and encourages bad thoughts about their situation.
people need to keep that for themselves, don't dishearten other depressed people by saying it's permanent as if it's guaranteed it will be, it does no good
Out of all the mental illnesses to have, anxiety and depression are probably the least bad. Don't get me wrong, they're terrible things to have to deal with but so many people have these sorts of problems that they're taken very seriously, SRSI medications really do a world of good and they're always improving. It seems like a new medication comes out every year and they seem to be getting better.
My girlfriend has depression (like she tried to hang herself and she woke up with the noose on the ground) and she just got on some new meds and it made a world of difference.
[QUOTE=Korova;45668626]Out of all the mental illnesses to have, anxiety and depression are probably the least bad. Don't get me wrong, they're terrible things to have to deal with but so many people have these sorts of problems that they're taken very seriously, SRSI medications really do a world of good and they're always improving. It seems like a new medication comes out every year and they seem to be getting better.
My girlfriend has depression (like she tried to hang herself and she woke up with the noose on the ground) and she just got on some new meds and it made a world of difference.[/QUOTE]
I really don't think there's any "worse" mental illness out there, it all boils down to how a person reacts to the different things. in an unrealistic world where people could get mental disorders out of the blue, I'm sure two guys would react completely different to clinical depression and schizophrenia.
regarding medicine, they're not always fool proof and there are people who show no effect to them at all
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hes being a DJ for all the angels in heaven now ;(
[QUOTE=PirateMax;45667699]It doesn't go away though, you just learn how to deal with it, which no longer makes it a problem.[/QUOTE]
It would be nice if they talked about how you can treat it with therapy and help from friends and medication, instead of treating it like an illness that will just go away as you get older.
That's not how it works and it promotes a harmful environment for people with mental illnesses, like me.
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