Extra Credits: Call of Juarez: The Cartel - General

[IMG]http://penny-arcade.com/uploads/main/hero/pa_hero_extracredits13season3.png[/IMG] [URL]http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/call-of-juarez-the-cartel[/URL] [quote=Extra Credits]This week, we further examine the "lazy design" we discussed last week by picking apart a specific title: Call of Juarez: The Cartel. [/quote] Anyone played this game?

Sounds like he's taking some serious implications from this game that very few gamers would see themselves when playing this game, or any game for that matter.

[QUOTE=XSarcYX;32860783]Sounds like he's taking some serious implications from this game that very few gamers would see themselves when playing this game, or any game for that matter.[/QUOTE] He does have a point though. Media plays a larger part in our lives these days and as Games get more prominent the chance of misunderstandings and controversies rises greatly.

I like the subjects and the way they talk about them but everytime I listen to them I keep getting annoyed and distracted by the awful chipmunky voice distortion - it really makes them loose some "authenticity" in my opinion

[QUOTE=SHITBULLET;32863082]I like the subjects and the way they talk about them but everytime I listen to them I keep getting annoyed and distracted by the awful chipmunky voice distortion - it really makes them loose some "authenticity" in my opinion[/QUOTE] I don't mind it. The guy who actually reads the stuff said that he distorts it because his voice sounds boring, and when they tried to make the first video they found that it became much better with the distortion.

Was expecting him to take a game too seriously. Then I watched the video. Holy shit that was bad. An achievement earned for killing 40 enemies, the only achievement of it's kind, on a level with exclusively black NPC's, called Bad Guy. How did that go through?

What the hell made Techland do this? It's like trying to make the game so eye-catching in obscenity that it attracts attention. Except it's shitty and tries being obscene in all the [i]wrong[/i] ways.

I'm surprised he didn't point out the massive amount of grammar and spelling errors. Also, there's so much wrong with this game that tackling the historical incorrectness is just scratching the surface.

Ya know.When I heard there was a new Call of Juarez coming out, I was so excited. I actually tried to play this. Its extremely stereotypical at times. Also there is one part where your diving like 15000 miles an hour down the highway, leaning out of your car aimlessly shooting at enemy cars while ramming civilian cars off the road into fireballs of death! The icing on the cake for me, I didn't manually set where I was saving my progress.So that means it just didn't wanna save, no such thing as autosave at all right? fuck this game.

this guy takes video games WAY too fucking seriously

[QUOTE=Judas;32867337]this guy takes video games WAY too fucking seriously[/QUOTE]If gaming is to be seen by the general public as something beyond something little boys and young adults play we need to take gaming much more seriously. Watch some more of their videos and you will get an idea of what I mean.

[QUOTE=Judas;32867337]this guy takes video games WAY too fucking seriously[/QUOTE] no? he goes into the fundamentals and mechanics of video games, through the processes of designing, publishing, and playing games to enjoy them as much as possible.

[QUOTE=Judas;32867337]this guy takes video games WAY too fucking seriously[/QUOTE] You don't take games seriously enough sir.

Yeah, this is the prequel to the game where a Confederate general attempts to revive the Confederacy with a secret treasure hidden in Mexico, you should all be taking this game very seriously for it is basically an interactive textbook of history and culture.

[QUOTE=nox;32871203]Yeah, this is the prequel to the game where a Confederate general attempts to revive the Confederacy with a secret treasure hidden in Mexico, you should all be taking this game very seriously for it is basically an interactive textbook of history and culture.[/QUOTE] It's a prequel that takes place a 100 years after the previous games?

Sequel

Extra Credits tends to have some of the most balanced and informative arguments on video games I've ever seen. You often find yourself calling out Yahtzee in a Zero Punctuation review, as much of what he says is a very strongly-worded accentuation of a game's negative points. But with EC, I often agree with much of what they say - and it is rather criminal for Techland to make a game so lazily. And with reference to prequel/sequel, it's really sort of neither; it's more a spritual successor, obviously set after the previous two games, but with little to connect them apart from one of the characters [I]maybe[/I] being a descendant of Ray McCall.

I want to watch these but the fact he filters his voice makes it unbearable.

Wow, that Call of Juarez sounds horrible. A bloody disgrace and disappointment that almost seems as if the developers are trolling the gamers.

[QUOTE=Squeaken;32872355]I want to watch these but the fact he filters his voice makes it unbearable.[/QUOTE] It certainly works better for Daniel than it would for anyone else - imagine how The Pixel Show would be if I increased my own pitch! - but I find that it's a touch throwing at first, but grows on you. It's actually fairly amazing that EC works as well as it does. Unlike solo efforts such as Zero Punctuation and...well, my own content, Extra Credits' script, voice and artwork are each done by a separate person. And yet it all works as a coherent whole.

I'm just about to watch it, but from the look of the replies in this thread, I have to say - play the game, formulate your own opinion about it, and then tell people how much you hate it / like it. It's a bit hypocritical how people will listen to someone else talk about a videogame and how bad it is and then blindly agree with them, but then scoff at newspapers or TV shows that talk about how certain videogames are bad when the writers or presenters haven't played a videogame since Pacman.

[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;32874567][post][/QUOTE] It's not strictly a review, this, it's more using the game as an example of poor game design. And it is accurate; Techland have made several heinous errors in the game's production. It's not some uncultured journalist having a go for the sake, it's a hyper-cultured team of three who have analysed it and are presenting opinion.

[QUOTE=KitAlexHarrison;32874598]It's not strictly a review, this, it's more using the game as an example of poor game design. And it is accurate; Techland have made several heinous errors in the game's production. It's not some uncultured journalist having a go for the sake, it's a hyper-cultured team of three who have analysed it and are presenting opinion.[/QUOTE] That's not my point - my point was that people should form their own opinion of a game (or a movie, or a TV show, or anything like that) by actually watching / playing it, and [I]then[/I] listening to things like this and use the points raised in features such as this, along with their own experiences, to properly come to a conclusion about what they think about the game / movie / TV show. It's kind of ridiculous to just assume they're 100% accurate and infallible in their points, or that the way they'd see it is the same as the way you'd see it. They could make up anything and present it as the truth, and if it seemed convincing enough, you may believe it if you hadn't played the game before. If they're pointing out errors in the game's production, then for all the viewer knows, they could have been just misinterpreted or something. (Bear in mind I still haven't watched the video yet, so for all I know I could be completely wrong and look like an idiot at this point.) All I'm saying is, play the game to find out if what they're saying is true for yourself, rather than just accept what they're saying. Question everything, or whatever.

[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;32874668][Large Post][/QUOTE] Most reviewers gave the game average to poor ratings and several of my friends played it and say it's bad. Granted, if I play it it could grow on me, but I already have a bias in my mind; especially when it comes to one of the game's achievements the video talks about and was noted further up in this thread.

[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;32874668]That's not my point - my point was that people should form their own opinion of a game (or a movie, or a TV show, or anything like that) by actually watching / playing it, and [I]then[/I] listening to things like this and use the points raised in features such as this, along with their own experiences, to properly come to a conclusion about what they think about the game / movie / TV show. It's kind of ridiculous to just assume they're 100% accurate and infallible in their points, or that the way they'd see it is the same as the way you'd see it. They could make up anything and present it as the truth, and if it seemed convincing enough, you may believe it if you hadn't played the game before. If they're pointing out errors in the game's production, then for all the viewer knows, they could have been just misinterpreted or something. (Bear in mind I still haven't watched the video yet, so for all I know I could be completely wrong and look like an idiot at this point.) All I'm saying is, play the game to find out if what they're saying is true for yourself, rather than just accept what they're saying. Question everything, or whatever.[/QUOTE] But none of the stuff in the video, it's just pointing out all the mistakes they did with the game, that's not opinion.