• Two Plus Two Equals Five
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[video=youtube;EHAuGA7gqFU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHAuGA7gqFU[/video] noticed that this short film was actually made like a decade ago hope you guys haven't seen it
i dont understand the message, if there is supposed to be one? Or is this just supposed to be some sort of surreal hipster short film?
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;48436368]i dont understand the message, if there is supposed to be one? Or is this just supposed to be some sort of surreal hipster short film?[/QUOTE] I think the message is pretty clear it's just that it's terribly implemented.
I feel like this could've been written by a preschooler. I mean, the plot is simple. Student told to accept a lie. Student refuses. Student gets punished. I was expecting a deeper message the whole way through, but didnt get one.
[QUOTE=Str4fe;48436384]I feel like this could've been written by a preschooler. I mean, the plot is simple. Student told to accept a lie. Student refuses. Student gets punished. I was expecting a deeper message the whole way through, but didnt get one.[/QUOTE] So, 1984?
[QUOTE=Str4fe;48436384]I feel like this could've been written by a preschooler. I mean, the plot is simple. Student told to accept a lie. Student refuses. Student gets punished. I was expecting a deeper message the whole way through, but didnt get one.[/QUOTE] Well considering the film is in Farsi we can definitely see what kind of people made it and why they choose this kind of story. IMO it's kind of an uncreative message but it probably meant more to them than it does to us.
[QUOTE=Str4fe;48436384]I feel like this could've been written by a preschooler. I mean, the plot is simple. Student told to accept a lie. Student refuses. Student gets punished. I was expecting a deeper message the whole way through, but didnt get one.[/QUOTE] It's supposed to be simple, it's 6 minutes long. [editline]11th August 2015[/editline] Look at Malala Yousafzai. This film isn't just talking out it's ass. In some countries you just can't go against the status-quo, but some brave individual's [I]can[/I] exact change. That's the point.
My analysis: There's allways someone that finds out, and his knowledge will affect all. The child who stood up and became a martyr died for what he believed in. He confronted the beast of hierarchy. Pre-planting idéas in those young ones that are an easy prey. The beast quickly but carefully disposed the evidence and re-wrote it's history. And by time, generations after generations it was covered up by ignorance. This film is about cencorship and that the majorities picks on the minorities.
[QUOTE=FUCK MY ASS;48436486]My analysis: There's allways someone that finds out, and his knowledge will affect all. The child who stood up and became a martyr died for what he believed in. He confronted the beast of hierarchy. Pre-planting idéas in those young ones that are an easy prey. The beast quickly but carefully disposed the evidence and re-wrote it's history. And by time, generations after generations it was covered up by ignorance. This film is about cencorship and that the majorities picks on the minorities.[/QUOTE] Little bit too deep, but yeah.
[QUOTE=cdr248;48436535]Little bit too deep, but yeah.[/QUOTE] Filmcreators are often deep, take Kubrick for example. But from a historic perspective, political crisis has allways had this respons. [editline]11th August 2015[/editline] More analysis: The death of the child is a marking. In history, those who dare to opress the dynasty, cultists, extremists, etc has allways been executed on spot as a message. The boy that become angry because he did not want to get in trouble was the sign of fear; and fear is control. The teacher erased the blood and removed his bravery by putting in his own history, to remove anything bad about his side (political use of history, winners control the history?). This is very common in those countries, deeply rooted. Education is a threat towards tyranny, therefore it must stay dumbdowned.
I think using "2+2=" in this movie is kind, you can't go wrong with math, and if you take it for granted calculations just don't work. Using some known fact could have been more suitable, like earth is flat or smth
Why were the guns invisible? Like, I get that it's supposed to be all artsy fartsy, but if you're already trying to implement a totalitarian society into a class room just give the kids some guns or a knife. Invisible guns are just silly.
[QUOTE=Edge97;48437786]I think using "2+2=" in this movie is kind, you can't go wrong with math, and if you take it for granted calculations just don't work. Using some known fact could have been more suitable, like earth is flat or smth[/QUOTE] On the contrary, the reason why it's an effective metaphor is because it's obvious to anyone that "2+2 =5" is inherently wrong and immediately disprovable, whereas the earth being flat is false but not immediately and incontrovertibly provable by any normal human being.
[QUOTE=Str4fe;48436384]I feel like this could've been written by a preschooler. I mean, the plot is simple. Student told to accept a lie. Student refuses. Student gets punished. I was expecting a deeper message the whole way through, but didnt get one.[/QUOTE] Then you're not looking for one. Look, I hate overly artsy-fartsy shit as much as the next guy, but the message in the film was pretty clear and runs far deeper than the literal interpretation of what happened. Didn't you guys ever take a literature class?
[QUOTE=Paincake;48437901]Why were the guns invisible? Like, I get that it's supposed to be all artsy fartsy, but if you're already trying to implement a totalitarian society into a class room just give the kids some guns or a knife. Invisible guns are just silly.[/QUOTE] The invisibility of the guns could symbolise that the definition of weapons is not neccesarily a deadly firearm. Words can be deadly, knowledge, history, anything. I don't know what it means this time, but I believe it has something to do with fear, or a Group Vs. individual situation.
[QUOTE=Noss;48438309]Then you're not looking for one. Look, I hate overly artsy-fartsy shit as much as the next guy, but the message in the film was pretty clear and runs far deeper than the literal interpretation of what happened. Didn't you guys ever take a literature class?[/QUOTE] Don't try too hard.
Wake up sheeple!
[QUOTE=ImpSnob;48439977]Wake up sheeple![/QUOTE] Nice sterotype generalization. I bet Edward Snowden is full of shit too.
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