Blood on the Dance Floor gives a nonviolent response; "The real truth about Dahvie Vanity" - General

He's constantly reuploading it so we'll see if it stays up. [video=youtube;-enyrx1bNTM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-enyrx1bNTM[/video] Also don't shoot, I take no opinion on this.

he seems like a sound guy and did a good job speaking on his own behalf. I hate their music but still, nobody deserves to get these dumb accusations against them.

Wow, I didn't think I'd like this guy -- since all I've seen was his videos and accusation rumors. Music is still horrible, but at least from this video; that he /seems/ like a very okay person.

I don't like BotDF, but my partner does. To be honest I don't really think their music's any worse than a lot of stuff on the radio nowadays, the only difference is that it's very explicit. I can deal with listening to it. And from watching this video, Dahvie seems like a pretty okay guy.

Of course he's going to look okay in this video, he is defending himself so he tried his best to come off as a good guy. There are countless accusations from a variety of different people, actual victims sharing their stories and witnesses such as older brothers/sisters who went to concerts to look after their younger siblings who has seen him do disgusting things on stage and backstage. Just because he makes a video doesn't mean he's innocent, but then again just because there are accusations against him it doesn't make him guilty. Considering there are a huge group of people who say they have been victimised by him its safer to assume that the allegations are true. Not to mention I've seen a photo of this guy kissing an underage girl on the lips so I will still find him a guilty pedophile fuck.

If you guys want an up-to-date juicy drama story like this one, start following Front Porch Step's accusations. [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/arts/music/front-porch-step-is-accused-of-misconduct-with-teenagers-online.html[/url] It's all the rage on Tumblr! [editline]14th January 2015[/editline] Also a bit more on topic, I make Crunkcore music, and am friends with a bunch of artists in this scene (hell, I even have Dahvie added on my Facebook.) JJ Demon has spoke about this, Dropping a Popped Locket has spoke about this, The Bunny The Bear has.. pretty much every artist that has toured with him has, and everyone has different stories. You won't ever know if he's innocent or not.. it's just not going to happen. I do know that their old merch girl is now dating (maybe married? I can't remember) to "The Bunny" from TBTB, and they were super nice to her. it's a mystery

[QUOTE=Fang30;46929262]If you guys want an up-to-date juicy drama story like this one, start following Front Porch Step's accusations. [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/arts/music/front-porch-step-is-accused-of-misconduct-with-teenagers-online.html[/url] It's all the rage on Tumblr! [editline]14th January 2015[/editline] Also a bit more on topic, I make Crunkcore music, and am friends with a bunch of artists in this scene (hell, I even have Dahvie added on my Facebook.) JJ Demon has spoke about this, Dropping a Popped Locket has spoke about this, The Bunny The Bear has.. pretty much every artist that has toured with him has, and everyone has different stories. You won't ever know if he's innocent or not.. it's just not going to happen. I do know that their old merch girl is now dating (maybe married? I can't remember) to "The Bunny" from TBTB, and they were super nice to her. it's a mystery[/QUOTE] no offense but why would you willingly make crunkcore

[QUOTE=halflambada;46929299]no offense but why would you willingly make crunkcore[/QUOTE] It's a very very weird niche. I don't blame people for hating it and all, but it's seriously a loving community to be a part of. My Facebook is full of the coolest most helpful people I know now, and it's funny because I see more posts from all of these guys than I do anyone that went to my high school/in my college, and I like it that way. I know how ridiculous it sounds, it's just something I can't explain. Everyone has that one weird thing that they don't let many people know they like/do, and this is definitely mine. I always felt that crunkcore got off on a bad start, most people listened to Freaxxx by BrokeNCYDE and just stopped there. I dived deeper into it, realized how fun it sounded to make, and it's what made me start producing music. I really can't explain it.

[QUOTE=Fang30;46929311]It's a very very weird niche. I don't blame people for hating it and all, but it's seriously a loving community to be a part of. My Facebook is full of the coolest most helpful people I know now, and it's funny because I see more posts from all of these guys than I do anyone that went to my high school/in my college, and I like it that way. I know how ridiculous it sounds, it's just something I can't explain. Everyone has that one weird thing that they don't let many people know they like/do, and this is definitely mine. I always felt that crunkcore got off on a bad start, most people listened to Freaxxx by BrokeNCYDE and just stopped there. I dived deeper into it, realized how fun it sounded to make, and it's what made me start producing music. I really can't explain it.[/QUOTE] So what is crunkcore from your experience to someone with a musical background? On the note of him why is he wearing his stage appearance, does he dress like that all the time?

[QUOTE=Ithon;46929387]So what is crunkcore from your experience to someone with a musical background? On the note of him why is he wearing his stage appearance, does he dress like that all the time?[/QUOTE] I used to just describe it as "rap with screams" but it's actually kinda vague once you get into it. 3Oh!3 is considered crunkcore, just because of their emo type vocals and breakdowns. I feel like it's any part of emo/screamo mixed in with any type of rap/hip-hop. Yeah pretty much. There's rarely pictures of him without makeup haha.

[QUOTE=Camp er Joe;46907961]Considering there are a huge group of people who say they have been victimised by him its safer to assume that the allegations are true.[/QUOTE]Is that how it works? Accusing someone is easy. Anyone can do it. Majority does not prove right or wrong, proof does.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;46932692]Is that how it works? Accusing someone is easy. Anyone can do it. Majority does not prove right or wrong, proof does.[/QUOTE] Looks like you didn't read my sentence before. [QUOTE=Camp er Joe;46907961]Just because he makes a video doesn't mean he's innocent, but then again just because there are accusations against him it doesn't make him guilty.[/QUOTE] I didn't say that he was guilty, I said it's safe to assume that he is guilty because of all the stories that victims have shared. There are countless witnesses who have seen him do all the accusations in front of them and I considered them my proof. If you want to find him innocent that's your choice. But based on the stories I've read I want everyone to take caution if they ever meet him because I've seen enough evidence from different people that he is creepy towards young teenage girls and I wouldn't want any of them to go through a traumatic event. I'm a 20 year old male so I'm not his prey. But I'm passionate enough to make sure that people are aware of these accusations so they can at least warn their family/sisters/daughters if any of them attend one of his shows to be careful if he tries any dangerous business with them. Rather than "y'know, he [I]might[/I] be a pedophile, there's no concrete evidence so I'll take my luck and assume he won't sexual assault my sister"