Call me a moron but when you put a 120 dollar USB mic next to a set-up with pro gear and where the microphone alone costs over 3 times as much and then whine about how the latter sounds much better, you're not exactly doing a good job of making your case.
I mean, I agree that USB mics aren't the best and that for the cost of a Blue Yeti, you can get a pretty decent microphone setup but you need to start a video like this off right.
Also he stole most of his (wrong) jokes from another video. So guess what, he's an elitist, and an idiot, and a plagiarist.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52393529]Call me a moron but when you put a 120 dollar USB mic next to a set-up with pro gear and where the microphone alone costs over 3 times as much and then whine about how the latter sounds much better, you're not exactly doing a good job of making your case.
I mean, I agree that USB mics aren't the best and that for the cost of a Blue Yeti, you can get a pretty decent microphone setup but you need to start a video like this off right.[/QUOTE]
Despite being primarily related to Voice Acting, this video series I think explains it better.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sjZJ9i_mH0[/media]
He's probably right about most things (one thing I noticed he's absolutely wrong about is claiming that onboard sound card matters to USB mics) but I really dislike the way he presents his points. I'm not sure how to describe it, but it just sounds really whiny and not accepting any other opinions than his.
I use the Blue Snowball Ice or whatever it's called - I'd be interested in upgrading to a "proper" audio setup... if I could get over absolutely hating my voice whenever I hear it.
Will have to keep this video in mind for the future I guess.
Plus, I guess for the sort of content I'd be interested in doing (informative LPs as opposed to look at me react to this game LPs, streaming, etc.) I don't exactly need a voice-actor-level microphone.
...For the matter I don't think I could even put up that type of audio-suppressing-material up in the room I'd be intending to do stuff in, the walls are all oddly shaped. :v:
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52393529]Call me a moron but when you put a 120 dollar USB mic next to a set-up with pro gear and where the microphone alone costs over 3 times as much and then whine about how the latter sounds much better, you're not exactly doing a good job of making your case.
I mean, I agree that USB mics aren't the best and that for the cost of a Blue Yeti, you can get a pretty decent microphone setup but you need to start a video like this off right.[/QUOTE]
He starts it very bad, but he does explain why the mic is bad and what the cheaper yet same quality alternatives are. I just watched it without any knowledge of studio mics and the beginning did put me off as sort of just complaining. And I hate complaining.
[QUOTE=choco cookie;52393564]He starts it very bad, but he does explain why the mic is bad and what the cheaper yet same quality alternatives are. I just watched it without any knowledge of studio mics and the beginning did put me off as sort of just complaining. And I hate complaining.[/QUOTE]
I watched the rest of the video and yeah, he does make good points, sure, but that first impression is awful, as several comments on YT have pointed out.
If you're going to put a 100 dollar mic next to a 750 dollar setup, of course it's not gonna sound as good. But what exactly are you achieving with that comparison?
Ok so, ironic I know, but does his audio sound worse than a most YouTuber's to you, including small YouTubers like a friend of mine who uses a Yeti?
Like his voice has a slightly fuzzy and harsh tone to it. I'm no audio aficionado, I use a Snowball and haven't had many complaints about my audio quality in my videos, but I'm genuinely certain this sounds worse than average.
On another note, for someone who's rocking a 750 dollar setup, his voice fucking [I]sucks[/i]. He's got the Film Brain problem of elongating the end of his sentenceeees.
Given its price-range and convenience, Blue Yeti is still an excellent starter mic for podcasts and whatnot. It's the only USB microphone (that I know of) that is THX certified.
i think the point of these videos is that paying for a blue yeti to get a quality recording is like buying the most expensive tricycle for speed - sure, the step up is a bit more difficult and might be a bit more expensive, but you're getting a far better product which scales up far nicer
if you want a quality recording, save up a bit more and get an XLR mic, rather than dropping money on a very expensive USB mic which has an enormous bottleneck to quality
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52393594]i think the point of these videos is that paying for a blue yeti to get a quality recording is like buying the most expensive tricycle for speed - sure, the step up is a bit more difficult and might be a bit more expensive, but you're getting a far better product which scales up far nicer
if you want a quality recording, save up a bit more and get an XLR mic, rather than dropping money on a very expensive USB mic which has an enormous bottleneck to quality[/QUOTE]
No the point of this video is fuck the people who are just starting out who can't justify that much money on such a small increase in quality. Elitism between YouTubers who do it for a job and people who do it for free is totally a thing, not a thing we discuss a lot but a thing. When this guy improves his audio quality it's an investment in his business, but when I do it's a shit ton of money on a hobby that I have real hope of profiting on, money that could and should be spent on food and rent. I've known people who have started out YouTubing with the best quality equipment for every aspect but they've had high paying full time jobs, even modified their house to have backdrops for their videos, for students all of that is literally impossible.
I cannot afford to, nor justify the spending on such a small increase in quality, he can. There's no need to insult me because of that.
This video is pure elitism.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;52393626]
on such a small increase in quality,
[/QUOTE]
The increase in quality is pretty large though. It's frustating how tinny Snowball and Yeti sound compared to proper setups.
[QUOTE=Sini;52393639]The increase in quality is pretty large though. It's frustating how tinny Snowball and Yeti sound compared to proper setups.[/QUOTE]
Is it? I thought his audio sounded worse than my mate's Yeti.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;52393626]No the point of this video is fuck the people who are just starting out who can't justify that much money on such a small increase in quality. Elitism between YouTubers who do it for a job and people who do it for free is totally a thing, not a thing we discuss a lot but a thing. When this guy improves his audio quality it's an investment in his business, but when I do it's a shit ton of money on a hobby that I have real hope of profiting on, money that could and should be spent on food and rent. I've known people who have started out YouTubing with the best quality equipment for every aspect but they've had high paying full time jobs, even modified their house to have backdrops for their videos, for students all of that is literally impossible.
I cannot afford to, nor justify the spending on such a small increase in quality, he can. There's no need to insult me because of that.
This video is pure elitism.[/QUOTE]
[media]https://soundcloud.com/cloakra/alright[/media]
i own a blue yeti
the dude isn't insulting you, this is very good advice
sure, his point is very aggressively made, but i can understand why this would anger audio people because it's such a ridiculous price
This guy is the type of youtuber who "plays a character" that actually isn't any different from who the person is in real life. Which makes videos where he's not being serious a lot better, because his personality flaws become a strength in that case. However, when he makes a serious video, he ends up being grating and unlikeable.
His "How to play ___" videos are hilarious but as soon as he makes a serious video and you realize he's not playing a character the way Nostalgia Critic or AVGN does, it becomes a lot less entertaining.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52393651][media]https://soundcloud.com/cloakra/alright[/media]
i own a blue yeti
the dude isn't insulting you, this is very good advice
sure, his point is very aggressively made, but i can understand why this would anger audio people because it's such a ridiculous price[/QUOTE]
Your voice is lovely
the dude is a douche, sure, he's a moron for suggesting that people are making a choice between his big setup and usb, which just isn't the case
but the core lesson is real important
[QUOTE=Rossy167;52393626]No the point of this video is fuck the people who are just starting out who can't justify that much money on such a small increase in quality. Elitism between YouTubers who do it for a job and people who do it for free is totally a thing, not a thing we discuss a lot but a thing. When this guy improves his audio quality it's an investment in his business, but when I do it's a shit ton of money on a hobby that I have real hope of profiting on, money that could and should be spent on food and rent. I've known people who have started out YouTubing with the best quality equipment for every aspect but they've had high paying full time jobs, even modified their house to have backdrops for their videos, for students all of that is literally impossible.
I cannot afford to, nor justify the spending on such a small increase in quality, he can. There's no need to insult me because of that.
This video is pure elitism.[/QUOTE]
This video is mostly a ripoff of this great youtube video [video=youtube;_sjZJ9i_mH0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sjZJ9i_mH0[/video]
Down to the same jokes and music, wow.
Anyway, the guy didn't really do a great job explaining his hatred for USB Mics and what you should buy instead. But I gotta stop you there and mention that yes, you can spend almost the same price with audio interfaces compared to USB mics like the blue yeti. And I consider the audio interface option to still be the best nonetheless. It's not really a small boost in quality but a HUGE boost in quality. I live in a shithole called Brazil, so any audio related equipment here can cost an arm and a leg, A blue yeti here costs as much as the audio interface this dude in the video has.
I still opted for an audio interface, albeit very cheap because of my budget issues. Here's something though, Everyone who owns one of those expensive mics ALWAYS processes their audio to sound as clean and shiny as possible, even on livestreams. Any output that is dry will sound like crap, and expensive microphones won't magically fix that.
Oh and your room also matters a lot, no matter what kind of microphone you have, if you're recording in a shitty room acoustic-wise it'll sound like shit no matter what
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52393651][media]https://soundcloud.com/cloakra/alright[/media]
i own a blue yeti
the dude isn't insulting you, this is very good advice
sure, his point is very aggressively made, but i can understand why this would anger audio people because it's such a ridiculous price[/QUOTE]
I found neither particularly bad, there was definitely a noticeable difference in quality but I'd be happy with either. Though tbh I think you may want to just turn down the Yeti a bit more. What I will say is that with some audio setups that I know are using Yeti's, the quality is far far better than the quality you're showing in the Yeti part of your soundcloud.
I will say that I didn't get the Yeti specifically because of the price, not the quality, I got a Snowball for £50 and that was the highest I [B]could[/B] go back when I was a sixth former, can't go much higher now I'm at uni. Overall I just hate the sentiment and the delivery of this guy, I mean look at his like/dislike ratio on every other recent video too, it's pretty bad.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;52393670]I found neither particularly bad, there was definitely a noticeable difference in quality but I'd be happy with either. Though tbh I think you may want to just turn down the Yeti a bit more. What I will say is that with some audio setups that I know are using Yeti's, the quality is far far better than the quality you're showing in the Yeti part of your soundcloud.
I will say that I didn't get the Yeti specifically because of the price, not the quality, I got a Snowball for £50 and that was the highest I [B]could[/B] go back when I was a sixth former, can't go much higher now I'm at uni. Overall I just hate the sentiment and the delivery of this guy, I mean look at his like/dislike ratio on every other recent video too, it's pretty bad.[/QUOTE]
[media]https://soundcloud.com/cloakra/sorry[/media]
Cloak Raider has a point. If you're claiming that most people don't need the audio quality than an XLR setup delivers, you're probably right. However, if someone is looking to upgrade their mic setup, and they're looking to get a Blue Yeti, I'd recommend pointing them towards an XLR mic, USB interface, and a cheap mic stand instead. Not only because they usually sound better, but decent XLR mics and USB interfaces are only going down in price.
Let me give you an example from Amazon US right now. The MXL 770 (a great alternative to the AT2020), Behringer UM2 (a cheap but ok starter interface), a 6ft XLR cable, and a cheap (as in price) micstand costs about $123. A Blue Yeti currently costs $120. You're only paying 3 more dollars for a much better sounding setup.
If you're really adamant about staying with USB, then you'd be better served by a more mid tier option like the Samson Go Mic with the highest end I'd recommend being the ATR2500. The Blue Yeti is XLR price for a USB mic though, so why not just go full on XLR?
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52393683][media]https://soundcloud.com/cloakra/sorry[/media][/QUOTE]
No worries mate.
I can tell the difference with you, but have to wonder how it works for most small YouTubers using the Yeti. If they have to mess about with it a lot or if I'm just not noticing the I know a lot of people over on r/newtubers and I would've thought their audio quality (bar like 1 or 2) sounds absolutely perfect once you put a little bit of sound in the background an example being a bit of a music for the reviewers, until I heard yours. Most of us are in my position of having to keep costs at near zero.
I personally have to mess about with my audio a lot and it still sounds like crap, I definitely wish I could have audio like yours but I cannot. I got the impression this guy's video was using the Yeti as an example to talk about all mics of that ilk. I'm more interested in improving the parts that I can control, and I know most of us feel this way, rather than fussing too much about things like audio quality that I really can't help.
imo once you go beyond the 120 dollar mark for equipment (yeti or not) most people get a lot more mileage out of making their environment less shitty and then running input through some kind of compression and bass boost software.
I like how he says "you will never get anywhere if you use a USB microphone". :v:
So he completely disregards all the people that used them in their beginnings?
I need to get an expensive setup to be instantly at the top?
They are good starter mics for relatively cheap, Yeti is kinda expensive imo.
He comes over as the same people that think you need a 22" Wacom Cintiq for $2000 to be an digital artist when you can be fine with some smaller screenless tablet for $100.
In his defense, he mentions it a few times on the side but still goes out of his way to say "Go big or don't even try."
I was using HD 280 Pro headphones and I could barely tell the difference between the "better" set up and the Yeti. The Yeti had a little hiss but that's about it.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52393651][media]https://soundcloud.com/cloakra/alright[/media]
i own a blue yeti
the dude isn't insulting you, this is very good advice
sure, his point is very aggressively made, but i can understand why this would anger audio people because it's such a ridiculous price[/QUOTE]
You estimate the rest of the audio setup at $60 despite the $200 minimum in the video.
I myself bought it because it was on sale with a game, and I need a microphone by the end of the month. As far as I know it's one of the better USB mics, and I don't have the need, time nor money for more right now.
[QUOTE=Mitsuma;52393863]I like how he says [b]"you will never get anywhere if you use a USB microphone".[/b] :v:
So he completely disregards all the people that used them in their beginnings?
I need to get an expensive setup to be instantly at the top?
They are good starter mics for relatively cheap, Yeti is kinda expensive imo.
He comes over as the same people that think you need a 22" Wacom Cintiq for $2000 to be an digital artist when you can be fine with some smaller screenless tablet for $100.
In his defense, he mentions it a few times on the side but still goes out of his way to say "Go big or don't even try."[/QUOTE]
Which is absolutely dumb because there are really successful channels like Geek&Sundry that still use some Blue Yetis (ie: Critical Role, Matt Mercer's mic is a Blue Yeti)
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