Table of needy Canadians racked up a bill of 77 dollars, and left nothing, not even a penny tip, however they left their nice 35 dollar golf cap under the table..
[video=youtube;t4rgdRlnQhw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4rgdRlnQhw[/video]
you managed to find a video that was removed within ten minutes after posting the thread, with only five thread views.
good job.
Tipping is dumb anyway. They should just pay their staff properly instead of relying on people to 'tip handsomely'. That's how it works in Denmark.
[QUOTE=Corewarp3;38056774]Tipping is dumb anyway. They should just pay their staff properly instead of relying on people to 'tip handsomely'. That's how it works in Denmark.[/QUOTE]
The idea is that it makes their pay dependent on how good a job they do, encouraging them to do better. Whether or not that's actually necessary is another matter altogether.
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I'm not saying I necessarily agree with the practice, this is simply the reason I've always been given. Do note that I said
[QUOTE=1STrandomman]Whether or not that's actually necessary is another matter altogether.[/quote]
[QUOTE=1STrandomman;38056858]The idea is that it makes their pay dependent on how good a job they do, encouraging them to do better. Whether or not that's actually necessary is another matter altogether.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't work that way. At pretty much any bar thursday-saturday, the bartender won't have the time to be nice and pander to a reward system. They're swamped. And if you're not a shitty person, you understand that they make working wage and the tip let's them do more than pay rent.
But obv don't tip your bartender or servers if they fart on you or something
[QUOTE=1STrandomman;38056858]The idea is that it makes their pay dependent on how good a job they do, encouraging them to do better. Whether or not that's actually necessary is another matter altogether.[/QUOTE]
you're doing jobs that are required for the business to stay afloat, not giving back alley blowjobs, you should be paid primarily by the hour not by some system that relies on the good will of others to give you money for something so subjective
I don't understand the tipping tradition, because we don't have that where I come from.
I've always seen it as something you get if the customers is willing to give it. If you don't get it, you don't. If you do, good for you!
That still doesn't make stealing someones property a good thing to do.
Some resteraunt tried to bring tipping in over here. It didn't last long. Tips should be a thanks for good service, they shouldn't be expected, either by the employee to make a decent wage or an employer looking to cut costs. I don't give a shit about your problems I came here to eat.
Tipping loses all meaning when it's expected, just greedy people which is nothing new sadly.
[QUOTE=- Livewire -;38058190]Tipping loses all meaning when it's expected, just greedy people which is nothing new sadly.[/QUOTE]
hhaha yeah wow those greedy fuckin waiters they're so rich they dont need tips!!!!
its not like they rely on tips for their lively hood
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[QUOTE=lotusking;38058203]hhaha yeah wow those greedy fuckin waiters they're so rich they dont need tips!!!!
its not like they rely on tips for their lively hood[/QUOTE]
It's a horribly shitty job if you have to RELY on fucking tips.
[QUOTE=lotusking;38058203]hhaha yeah wow those greedy fuckin waiters they're so rich they dont need tips!!!!
its not like they rely on tips for their lively hood[/QUOTE]
Laws should make it so that they aren't. Making tips part of the pay was somebodies shitty workaround to paying waiters below-minimum wage. Gotta love it when businesses exploit the staff to save money.
[QUOTE=1STrandomman;38056858]The idea is that it makes their pay dependent on how good a job they do, encouraging them to do better. Whether or not that's actually necessary is another matter altogether.[/QUOTE]
For everyone hitting disagree, he's pointing out that this is the mentality for the tipping system in the US. It's shit, but this is it.
They actually added tips into the bill like it was mandatory in the US. Fuck those restaurants.
[QUOTE=imMonkeyGOD;38058562]They actually added tips into the bill like it was mandatory in the US. Fuck those restaurants.[/QUOTE]
I've seen those. Fucking annoying.
You're pretty retarded if you think tips should be given because "it's normal"
You pay for what you get, And if it happens to be better then you expected, THEN you tip.
uh you guys do know that waiters basically rely on tips right? they're often paid below minimum wage, so tips are basically their pay. unless you're really fucked over by a waiter, yes, tipping IS necessary.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38[/media]
Reminded of this for some reason
[QUOTE=postmanX3;38066717]uh you guys do know that waiters basically rely on tips right? they're often paid below minimum wage, so tips are basically their pay. unless you're really fucked over by a waiter, yes, tipping IS necessary.[/QUOTE]
Having actually been a waiter in a few restaurants I can say that at least in my life, that's never happened. You should never rely on tips. They're an additional bonus that give you some extra spending money for doing the extra work.
[QUOTE=postmanX3;38066717]uh you guys do know that waiters basically rely on tips right? they're often paid below minimum wage, so tips are basically their pay. unless you're really fucked over by a waiter, yes, tipping IS necessary.[/QUOTE]
You do realise tipping culture is a very American thing, right? On this side of the pond paying your employees is the fucking law, tips are given for good serice.
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;38066838]Having actually been a waiter in a few restaurants I can say that at least in my life, that's never happened. You should never rely on tips. They're an additional bonus that give you some extra spending money for doing the extra work.[/QUOTE]
I have enough friends that are waiters to know that this does happen.
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[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;38066963]You do realise tipping culture is a very American thing, right? On this side of the pond paying your employees is the fucking law, tips are given for good serice.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, well, I meant in America. I understand American tourists are very popular in foreign restaurants because they tip abnormally well... but here that's the norm, so you ought to respect that.
Yeah um, I'm waiter and I don't rely on tipping to stay alive. Then again I'm not from some state in the USA where the hourly wage is disgustingly low for the work done.
waiters and waitresses RELYING on tips to live isn't true lots of the time. i know some waiters who tell people that bullshit story to get bigger tips which they just end up spending at the bar that very weekend. i'm not going to pity a waiter/waitress and give them a big ass tip, majority of the time if i feel like the deserved it i'll give them a 15-30% tip. if i feel like they were a cunt, they can fuck themselves and they don't get my money. fuck mandatory tipping
In virginia (and most other places in the US) minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.13 an hour ( [url]http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm#Virginia[/url] )
One cannot fucking live off 2 dollars and 13 cents an hour.
They need the tips.
I always love when tipping comes up in a thread we get teenage europeans (the former are notorious for being cheapskates who never tip, the latter have no tipping culture so its not expected) en masse thinking they have a real weight/say on the matter of how tips are handled in the US
Yes, we know you guys pay your waitresses higher. Yes, we know its considered insultiing to tip in many countries.
However, in the US, this isn't the case, so stop bringing it up?
This is why people tip in the US for "services":
1. Minimum wage for people working in the food service industry is much lower, so waiters/waitresses need tips to get their wage for 99% of jobs in that sector.
2. There's a huge emphasis on providing good customer service, and good people skills in such areas that you are expected to tip, which is partly where tipping comes from - the person going the extra mile to give you a good experience, convienece, etc.
3. It is considered very curtious, especially since most positions where you earn tips pay either miniumum wage, or less than minimum wage. It's a way of saying you appreciate them giving you good service despite their job, working conditions, or personal sacrifice (in the case of pizza drivers who spend their own money on gas/maintainence on their own car).
4. To not tip, is basically synonymous for insulting the person serving you, and as such says that you don't really appreciate their good service. Sure if the server/servicer sucks then obviously you don't give them a good tip, but most people who work in this industry remember their bad tippers unless they just show up out of the blue one time. Don't be surprised if you come back and find your food served slower and your service quality low if you don't tip - because you sent them the message that you simply don't care how good of a job they do, so the servers are going to focus on people they know will tip and be more appreciable for their job.
5. It's in our culture to like to stick up for the little guy and the "honest worker" in the US. Tipping grew from that appreciation as a kind of charity, and everyone adopted it to show their appreciation for the services people who work these jobs provide, to the point where it became an accepted (and federally taxed) standard. It's the idea that you could have just gotten the food yourself, or ordered a pickup on the pizza, or done that haircut yourself, but instead you have someone else take care of that for you and as such you give a little extra to the individual person that does such a service to convince you. That's where it comes from, really.
Tipping is essential for jobs like waiting, where workload can differ VASTLY from hour to hour. My friend patrick is a waiter/busboy at a local diner, on some hours almost nobody comes in, on other hours in the same shift he's absolutely swamped with customers. It doesn't make sense to pay them one flat rate when the workload can differ so dramatically.
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However, in the US, this isn't the case, so stop bringing it up?
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To get to ramble on about how botched up your system/service culture is :)
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;38072713]To get to ramble on about how botched up your system/service culture is :)[/QUOTE]
We know already. Thanks for informing us of what we know.
My current/now secondary job is 8USD/Hr + tips. Tips are 100% gas money almost.
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