John Cleese: Political Correctness Can Lead to an Orwellian Nightmare - General

[media]https://youtu.be/QAK0KXEpF8U[/media] a little old (January) so don't know if it was posted here yet or not

At the same time, we have to be careful who we piss off. It's important to be moderate and find a middle ground, and hopefully the governments of the world will eventually learn this as well. [sp]Though that's unlikely.[/sp]

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;50574986]At the same time, we have to be careful who we piss off. It's important to be moderate and find a middle ground, and hopefully the governments of the world will eventually learn this as well. [sp]Though that's unlikely.[/sp][/QUOTE] Of course. As with everything, there has to be balance.

At first, I thought the title said: [B]John Cleese: Political Correctness Can Lead to an Overweight Nightmare[/B] That's true too.

1984 isn't the only world that could arise from this- the backstory to Fahrenheit 451 is about overt appeasement to fringe groups, which gave rise to the book-burning story-rejecting world in that novel.

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;50574986]At the same time, we have to be careful who we piss off. It's important to be moderate and find a middle ground, and hopefully the governments of the world will eventually learn this as well. [sp]Though that's unlikely.[/sp][/QUOTE] At that point you're just advocating violence. You're advocating the idea that whoever is violent enough to be a concern should be protected from offense. Fuck that.

[QUOTE=Rufia;50579584]At that point you're just advocating violence. You're advocating the idea that whoever is violent enough to be a concern should be protected from offense. Fuck that.[/QUOTE] sounds like appeasement we all know how well that worked out

The world is on some sort of destined path. Soon enough you're going to have corporations running and calling the shots and traditional governments ceasing to exist and being remembered as a bad memory... Or good. General cyberpunk dystopian kind of shit. Hell if i know, the world could turn to a different course tomorrow with may benefit the everyday person or hinder them. It's simply a coin toss, and the average person really cant do much about it, really. It's quite a negative look, isnt it? I can only hope it's not eternal suffering like in 1984 or something much worse than that. (Which, i cannot figure out why someone or a group would make everyone else suffer like that. Feel free to correct me but seriously, what's the mo?) I have perhaps too much faith in people not being that retarded enough to make it a reality. I know us humans are dumb but i mean, surely we arent [b]that[/b] dumb. There's far too much negativity in this world, really. Come on, take a joke. Have a laugh.

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;50574986]At the same time, we have to be careful who we piss off. It's important to be moderate and find a middle ground, and hopefully the governments of the world will eventually learn this as well. [sp]Though that's unlikely.[/sp][/QUOTE] You're approaching this from a different end from the video in the OP. The video is arguing from a "what is best for society as a whole" viewpoint, wheras your viewpoint is "what is best to not get punched in the face as an individual." Obviously it is *also* better if we live in a society where people wont punch you in the face for offending them. its not that your post isn't relevant, it is, but its not counter to whats said in the op, they're separate layers of thinking imo. One is the ideal, the other is a primal need, you should always do the first where possible and default to the latter when neccasarry.

I'm tired of unable to give criticism without getting shit on just for being negative, but I hope that no one takes this as "We should ban political correctness or else 1984!!!!!". John Cleese even agrees that political correctness is a good thing to have, but what's happening in some universities is starting to become a serious problem.

If you really want to make this a simple message that people can understand, it's simply "Don't be a cunt to people". That's really just something to live by.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50581267]I'm tired of unable to give criticism without getting shit on just for being negative, but I hope that no one takes this as "We should ban political correctness or else 1984!!!!!". John Cleese even agrees that political correctness is a good thing to have, but what's happening in some universities is starting to become a serious problem.[/QUOTE] He is not even kind of arguing that. He is literally saying "don't be a dick".[I] Personal responsibility[/I] for non-douchebaggery has JACK SHIT to with institutionalized "niceness" otherwise no one would be complaining or having debates about it. Political correctness has nothing do with understanding or empathy and everything thing to do with accepting whatever you're told without question for the "greater good", and in virtually every case that greater good is utter [B]hypocritical[/B] bullshit.

[QUOTE=Highwind017;50583165]If you really want to make this a simple message that people can understand, it's simply "Don't be a cunt to people". That's really just something to live by.[/QUOTE] That is very vague. You know the people taking political correctness to harmful extremes think they're doing good and protecting the weak from the mean.

[QUOTE=Talishmar;50583343]That is very vague. You know the people taking political correctness to harmful extremes think they're doing good and protecting the weak from the mean.[/QUOTE] Yeah, you do have a point there. Its a result if how society works today, isnt it?

[QUOTE=ZombieWaffle;50579319]1984 isn't the only world that could arise from this- the backstory to Fahrenheit 451 is about overt appeasement to fringe groups, which gave rise to the book-burning story-rejecting world in that novel.[/QUOTE] Actually, Fahrenheit is about how TV is going to destroy books because TV is made to be really dumb and easily digested compared to normal books. [sp] It's actually not about censorship or anything like that, Ray Bradbury was told that he had no idea what his book was about by a bunch of students. [/sp]