I struggle to believe that anyone can be so dickless. Did they have orders not to use anything but the grip of a 4 year old on this guy?
They're literally dickless, man. Also, it is not as easy to take someone down who is determined to not go down as you might think.
[QUOTE=3picFail;52061171]They're literally dickless, man. Also, it is not as easy to take someone down who is determined to not go down as you might think.[/QUOTE]
Not such a herculean task if you have any sort of grappling training. Maybe police should have some of that.
Buncha fuckin' pussies
Are you afraid of him or something? You're four to one, what the fuck
at least they didnt just shoot him
you guys underestimate the power of someone going full survival beastmode, then there's the potential he could be drunk (check that staggering) helping him ignore some pain in the grapples. Clearly something already made him snap and stop giving a shit about anything, meanwhile 3/4 of the cops are women who aren't in fight or flight mode
Dude had the weight of two cops on him right at the beginning and lifted them both just to stand back up from a near-prone position, clearly he's already strong. if they don't have the means to end the threat or hold him down without the risk that he'll fuck somebody up, yeah they're supposed to stand back and wait for backup while hoping the idiot cools off a bit
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wait no "what a buncha pussies I coulda handled it"
I'm genuinely curious as to it being that strength, cause the police here tends to be somewhat well trained and disciplined when it comes to actually doing their job and being proud to do a good job.
Hell, as much as I hate to say it, chances are that if they were too rough, and it got on camera, they'd probably just get shit for being "racist". Feels like it wouldn't be the first time that happened here. :s:
[QUOTE=Ax3l;52061279]I'm genuinely curious as to it being that strength, cause the police here tends to be somewhat well trained and disciplined when it comes to actually doing their job and being proud to do a good job.
Hell, as much as I hate to say it, chances are that if they were too rough, and it got on camera, they'd probably just get shit for being "racist". Feels like it wouldn't be the first time that happened here. :s:[/QUOTE]
It should've been over when the guy had 2 police on top of him. The fact he got up demonstrates that they had no idea how to utilize leverage and weight to keep a person on the ground. If you have someone on their belly on the ground with you on top of them and they stand up, it's incompetence on your part.
[QUOTE=Rebi;52061290]If you have someone on their belly on the ground with you on top of them and they stand up, it's incompetence on your part.[/QUOTE]
looked like he was on hands and knees at that point, he had enough freedom of movement to get a leg under his chest for leverage
[img]http://i.imgur.com/8nCNbCL.png[/img]
[QUOTE=dai;52061301]looked like he was on hands and knees at that point, he had enough freedom of movement to get a leg under his chest for leverage
[img]http://i.imgur.com/8nCNbCL.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Even with hands and knees, they were just sitting at his sides seemingly trying to control his arms rather than his body. His legs wouldn't have mattered if one of them had moved to have their weight all on his head and chest. You can stand up with a person piggybacking you with leg power, but you can't stand up with a person on your head and upper chest.
I do not understand what is happening in this video? Do Swedish police have no formal training whatsoever on how to handle another human being? I mean they have 3 guys and they're barely holding him. In the military we get trained on how to handle terrorists one on one, like did they even try to manipulate his joints to force him co comply? Just hold the guys arm behind his back and the more he struggles the more you force his arm back, they usually become more cooperative after that.
Ill list some things here to help clear up why the police acted as they did.
1. Unknown mental state of the suspect
2. Unknown drug use, PCP can cause that outburst of strength
3. He is clearly showing he has no problem using violence towards authority
4. The police are trained to be one use of force model above the suspect, the suspect here was not responding to less lethal options and the officers were wasting energy in an attempt to subdue him.
All these things considered, I can see why the officers acted the way they did. Instead of jeopardizing their own safety in tiring themselves by wrestling and grappling with the suspect (which is incredibly tiring) they decided to let him burn himself out and wait for backup.
The officers were not "pussies"; they simply cared about their well being and judged the situation to not be worth the possible danger to their own persons. Now, if the suspect had started to show violence to bystanders, I guarantee the use of force would have increased and the officers would have made every attempt to stop him.
My experience in this matter comes from 2 years of police related college education.
[QUOTE=foxtrot_iic;52061378]Ill list some things here to help clear up why the police acted as they did.
1. Unknown mental state of the suspect
2. Unknown drug use, PCP can cause that outburst of strength
3. He is clearly showing he has no problem using violence towards authority
4. The police are trained to be one use of force model above the suspect, the suspect here was not responding to less lethal options and the officers were wasting energy in an attempt to subdue him.
All these things considered, I can see why the officers acted the way they did. Instead of jeopardizing their own safety in tiring themselves by wrestling and grappling with the suspect (which is incredibly tiring) they decided to let him burn himself out and wait for backup.
The officers were not "pussies"; they simply cared about their well being and judged the situation to not be worth the possible danger to their own persons. Now, if the suspect had started to show violence to bystanders, I guarantee the use of force would have increased and the officers would have made every attempt to stop him.
My experience in this matter comes from 2 years of police related college education.[/QUOTE]
So, letting this guy, who you say may have an unknown mental and drug state, run wild is the best course of action? I'm sorry, but that seems irresponsible at best. The guy just turned their police car into an art display and all they do is calmly watch as he walks his ass back to whatever domestic violence incident called them there in the first place.
that's sweden for ya
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[QUOTE=gary spivey;52061241]Buncha fuckin' pussies[/QUOTE]
IF this is how sweden defends herself let's get drunk and armed and cross the oresund and retake skaane!
This is why gender quota is crap
[QUOTE=freaka;52061622]This is why gender quota is crap[/QUOTE]
Like with longhaired blonde cop who gets clocked at 2:10, drops her baton and just leaves it there.
Also having way too long hair to be safe for police work.
And three female cops. I do stand for women in police and military roles, but there's the reality of women in general having less upper-body strength and less potential upper body strength, a lower center of gravity and less mass. So the positions should be open for candidates who can compete with their male counterparts. But the lowering of standards for female candidates in police and military jobs just hurts everyone in the end.
looks like "crack-head strength" to me.
you'd be surprised about what those cunts can do, I saw a guy throw a full kitted cop like 5 feet into a bunch of restaurant chairs in freo once.
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It's kinda weird that they were all girl cops though might have something to do with it being a refugee camp I'm not sure but here it'll generally always be 1 girl and 1 guy or an old guy and a young guy in patrol cars. and if it's beat police they're generally mostly men with one or two girls.
[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;52061661]Like with longhaired blonde cop who gets clocked at 2:10, drops her baton and just leaves it there.
Also having way too long hair to be safe for police work.
And three female cops. I do stand for women in police and military roles, but there's the reality of women in general having less upper-body strength and less potential upper body strength, a lower center of gravity and less mass. So the positions should be open for candidates who can compete with their male counterparts. But the lowering of standards for female candidates in police and military jobs just hurts everyone in the end.[/QUOTE]
Gonna be honest, some of the female police and guards I've seen here isn't even a threat to me. Like I could easily put them down and then make a run for it. Granted I'd probably get caught later and arrested but it doesn't change the first part that I shouldn't be able to get away in the first place.
Jesus, all the armchair analysts coming out of the woodwork in this thread.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;52061450]So, letting this guy, who you say may have an unknown mental and drug state, run wild is the best course of action? I'm sorry, but that seems irresponsible at best. The guy just turned their police car into an art display and all they do is calmly watch as he walks his ass back to whatever domestic violence incident called them there in the first place.[/QUOTE]
a bashed in police car window is less of a big deal than a bashed in skull
Would be interestimg to see how this situation would of been handled in different countries.
Those are three women cops, and the other two guys that came to help are probably other asylum seekers or maybe work there. I've seen some girls working in security for a bank and they were 165cm small women. A bit bigger man could could kill them with a single punch.
The one cop got the baton knocked out of their hand and just left it there on the ground. Thank god the dude didn't find it or he could've really hurt someone jesus.
I think it was Sweden or some other Nordic country where a Subway guard got his baton taken away from him and they near killed him, or maybe they did, I never got to find out what happened in the end of the video.
Lol, the guy in sweats did their job and he gets shown away only for the cops to get beaten up. Should've used at taser, but they are of course illegal. This is a situation where you have to get some big burly cops to take the guy down. I remember visiting my father(who is a retired police chief) and they had 3 or 4 guys exactly for this kind of situation at the station.
[QUOTE=Thaard;52062053]Lol, the guy in sweats did their job and he gets shown away only for the cops to get beaten up. Should've used at taser, but they are of course illegal. This is a situation where you have to get some big burly cops to take the guy down. I remember visiting my father(who is a retired police chief) and they had 3 or 4 guys exactly for this kind of situation at the station.[/QUOTE]
There's multiple examples of people on shit like pcp just shrugging off multiple tasers.
[QUOTE=Rebi;52061180]Not such a herculean task if you have any sort of grappling training. Maybe police should have some of that.[/QUOTE]
Taking someone down is one thing, Actually getting both arms in handcuffs is another
Why FOUR officers couldn't do it I'll never know. This is what police work is eventually going to look like, though. The public can't really stomach how gritty or ugly it just does get and every time an officer does their job there's someone gunning for their career, or a riot, or vandalism, or a protest
[QUOTE=Jack32;52061364]I do not understand what is happening in this video? Do Swedish police have no formal training whatsoever on how to handle another human being? I mean they have 3 guys and they're barely holding him. In the military we get trained on how to handle terrorists one on one, like did they even try to manipulate his joints to force him co comply? Just hold the guys arm behind his back and the more he struggles the more you force his arm back, they usually become more cooperative after that.[/QUOTE]
ah yes
this [I]anecdote [/I]definetely represents the [I]entire [/I]police force in my country
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