• Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Transgender Rights
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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmoAX9f6MOc[/media]
as usual, john nails it while making it funny
Good Video stuff needs to be noticed and taken care of already, the social stigma is kinda dumb. though i was wondering the military part, isnt the main reason why the military does that is so it can get the strongest possible soldiers? They have a huge physical/mental problem blacklist that would prevent people with potential problems to get in the military so they can't hurt themselves/others (I can't get in for example due to back problems). Wouldn't the hormone stuff that changes the body post-puberty effect the body where it isn't at its peak due to physical changes so thats why the military bans trans or am i just overthinking it? Not saying that Trans people should not be in the military, but i was just wondering if there was a legitimate reason behind it.
Fuck this Boy Bathroom Girl Bathroom thing. I think we want to use the guy at 10:28 as our national bathroom.
[QUOTE=Wii60;48081072]Good Video stuff needs to be noticed and taken care of already, the social stigma is kinda dumb. though i was wondering the military part, isnt the main reason why the military does that is so it can get the strongest possible soldiers? They have a huge physical/mental problem blacklist that would prevent people with potential problems to get in the military so they can't hurt themselves/others (I can't get in for example due to back problems). Wouldn't the hormone stuff that changes the body post-puberty effect the body where it isn't at its peak due to physical changes so thats why the military bans trans or am i just overthinking it? Not saying that Trans people should not be in the military, but i was just wondering if there was a legitimate reason behind it.[/QUOTE] Seeing as US military policy until 4 years ago was basically 'being gay is fine as long as you dont act it or tell anyone' there probably is not much sound reasoning behind it
I wish we could get rid of gender specific bathrooms all together. Also, is there anything people can do to fight all these bathroom bills? They are absolutely disgusting.
>"It's no more okay to ask transgender people about their sexual organs than it is to ask anyone else" If they're giving an interview about being transgender it really is. People are obviously going to be curious about all that entails. I got too bored to watch the rest of the sixteen-minute video but that part was dumb.
[QUOTE=hrak;48082584]>"It's no more okay to ask transgender people about their sexual organs than it is to ask anyone else" If they're giving an interview about being transgender it really is. People are obviously going to be curious about all that entails. I got too bored to watch the rest of the sixteen-minute video but that part was dumb.[/QUOTE] I don't think anyone's interview ever should entail talking about someone's penis or vagina. No one needs to hear that shit, regardless of what they're there for. I DO think, however, we need to stop this whole nonsense of someone being "brave" for coming out. I understand the idea of someone coming out in a time where being trans is/was hated on, but we need to make it the norm that someone comes out, not make it some big media celebration. By making a huge ordeal out of every time a trans person comes out, it just serves to continue the idea that trans people are different from others instead of striving to make them feel normal in a world where they're ostracized. When someone comes out, the reaction should be one of human reaction. "Oh, that's pretty cool dude/babe. Congrats." instead of blowing it out into some huge media event. Gay marriage is legal. Being trans is generally accepted by anyone who's not an idiot. There will always be cases of hate, but those should be taken on a local basis.
[QUOTE=hrak;48082584]>"It's no more okay to ask transgender people about their sexual organs than it is to ask anyone else" If they're giving an interview about being transgender it really is. People are obviously going to be curious about all that entails. I got too bored to watch the rest of the sixteen-minute video but that part was dumb.[/QUOTE] Would you be alright if every interview with a gay man was conducted like this one? [video=youtube;G2W41pvvZs0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2W41pvvZs0[/video] (Skip to about 10:44 for the part on the interview itself, the John Oliver excerpt is more compact than the original interview) Because that's what you're saying.
[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;48083160]Anyone got a mirror, not available in UK.[/QUOTE] Or Australia.
[QUOTE=Fangz;48082527]I wish we could get rid of gender specific bathrooms all together. Also, is there anything people can do to fight all these bathroom bills? They are absolutely disgusting.[/QUOTE] Though I do understand your intentions, I will say, At the risk of sounding like an SJW, rape exists, and 80% of people are straight, so that really puts the chances a bit (I'm not saying men can't get raped, or that gay/lesbian rape don't exist)
[QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;48082616]I don't think anyone's interview ever should entail talking about someone's penis or vagina. No one needs to hear that shit, regardless of what they're there for. I DO think, however, we need to stop this whole nonsense of someone being "brave" for coming out. I understand the idea of someone coming out in a time where being trans is/was hated on, but we need to make it the norm that someone comes out, not make it some big media celebration. By making a huge ordeal out of every time a trans person comes out, it just serves to continue the idea that trans people are different from others instead of striving to make them feel normal in a world where they're ostracized. When someone comes out, the reaction should be one of human reaction. "Oh, that's pretty cool dude/babe. Congrats." instead of blowing it out into some huge media event. Gay marriage is legal. Being trans is generally accepted by anyone who's not an idiot. There will always be cases of hate, but those should be taken on a local basis.[/QUOTE] I thuroughly disagree. In a world where transgender people are marginalized, ostracized, and discriminated against in general, we need more people in the spotlight. If even one kid from a small town with fundamentalist parents sees Jenner and realizes that how they feel is perfectly acceptable, then it's worth it.
[QUOTE=CapellanCitizen;48084062]one kid from a small town with fundamentalist parents sees Jenner and realizes that how they feel is perfectly acceptable, then it's worth it.[/QUOTE] if a kid is old enough to see that on his own, his parents have probably told him such things are "weird" and they're just doing it for attention
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;48083353]and 80% of people are straight)[/QUOTE] These statistics only measure who's [I]openly[/I] gay (or trans, etc). Plenty more people may want to be openly gay, but their living situation may keep them from coming out, or they might not even be aware of it themselves. [editline]30th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;48082616]I don't think anyone's interview ever should entail talking about someone's penis or vagina. No one needs to hear that shit, regardless of what they're there for. I DO think, however, we need to stop this whole nonsense of someone being "brave" for coming out. I understand the idea of someone coming out in a time where being trans is/was hated on, but we need to make it the norm that someone comes out, not make it some big media celebration. By making a huge ordeal out of every time a trans person comes out, it just serves to continue the idea that trans people are different from others instead of striving to make them feel normal in a world where they're ostracized. When someone comes out, the reaction should be one of human reaction. "Oh, that's pretty cool dude/babe. Congrats." instead of blowing it out into some huge media event. Gay marriage is legal. Being trans is generally accepted by anyone who's not an idiot. There will always be cases of hate, but those should be taken on a local basis.[/QUOTE] It's important for Brad and Angelina's trans son to be talked about, since it hopefully helps parents understand that their children could have gender dysphoria and that it's a totally real thing that is not to be ignored
[QUOTE=hrak;48082584]>"It's no more okay to ask transgender people about their sexual organs than it is to ask anyone else" If they're giving an interview about being transgender it really is. People are obviously going to be curious about all that entails. I got too bored to watch the rest of the sixteen-minute video but that part was dumb.[/QUOTE] No it isn't. It doesn't matter if you're curious, we're not under a fucking microscope here. I don't know if you struggle to read basic human emotion, but the people being asked that were very extremely visibly uncomfortable with being asked that, dodged answering, and in some cases straight up refused to answer, thus you shouldn't ask them, because y'know, it's bad to ask people uncomfortable questions. Because they shouldn't have to answer, it's none of your business. You're not going to interact with their genitalia, ever, guaranteed, not just with them but with any transgender person you ask this, so it has nothing to do with you, at all. If you're curious about sex change operations, consult Google and Wikipedia. If you're intent on talking to a transgender person about it, at least ask them first if it's alright to ask personal questions about sex changes. It's really not hard to have a basic level of politeness and respect of people's boundaries.
[QUOTE=hrak;48082584]>"It's no more okay to ask transgender people about their sexual organs than it is to ask anyone else" If they're giving an interview about being transgender it really is. People are obviously going to be curious about all that entails. I got too bored to watch the rest of the sixteen-minute video but that part was dumb.[/QUOTE] If someone were to come up to me during an interview and ask me how large my dick was, I wouldn't care how much context they had, it's still something you don't ask on live television. Let alone ask someone straight up unless you are screwing around and are good friends with them.
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