[QUOTE=Grindigo;46627669]The last second of the video sums it up for me.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/3tNBU8J.png[/img]
just a typical reaction to newsnight really
Well, they do make a pretty remarkable job at showcasing how your typical radical feminist acts.
Lot of noise and not much else.
[QUOTE=Crazy;46627766]Well, they do make a pretty remarkable job at showcasing how your typical radical feminist acts.
Lot of noise and not much else.[/QUOTE]
I find it pretty annoying how the good feminists don't get much voice or attention and instead you get radicals like this or maybe it's just because the good feminists don't seem to want attention and prefer their own ways, barking and shouting isn't going to help or give attention, just more likely be looked down upon as something stupid and erratic.
[QUOTE=Grindigo;46627789]I find it pretty annoying how the good feminists don't get much voice or attention and instead you get radicals like this or maybe it's just because the good feminists don't seem to want attention and prefer their own ways, barking and shouting isn't going to help or give attention, just more likely be looked down upon as something stupid and erratic.[/QUOTE]
Radicals get outrage, outrage gets attention, and the media loves attention.
She turns the fucking page at 1:15
Do they seriously needed it written how to scream??
This form is so biased. i know it's a game related forum, but there may be feminists gamers who this forum, who feel pretty downtrodden from people laughing at what they may see as fine art representing feminist.
Disclaimer: I am not a women ,nor a feminist. I also found this a bit funny at first, and don't get it from a first impression angle, but none the less, you can't really claim "art" to be wrong in my eyes.
[QUOTE=Lui2112;46627881]This form is so biased. i know it's a game related forum, but there may be feminists gamers who this forum, who feel pretty downtrodden from people laughing at what they may see as fine art representing feminist.
Disclaimer: I am not a women ,nor a feminist. I also found this a bit funny at first, and don't get it from a first impression angle, but none the less, you can't really claim "art" to be wrong in my eyes.[/QUOTE]
in my eyes this is degenerate
[QUOTE=Lui2112;46627881]This form is so biased. i know it's a game related forum, but there may be feminists gamers who this forum, who feel pretty downtrodden from people laughing at what they may see as fine art representing feminist.
Disclaimer: I am not a women ,nor a feminist. I also found this a bit funny at first, and don't get it from a first impression angle, but none the less, you can't really claim "art" to be wrong in my eyes.[/QUOTE]
This feels [i]really[/i] odd coming from a guy who defended a [del]serial rapist[/del] pickup artist.
At least your English has gotten a lot better.
so much art~~~~
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;46627874]Radicals get outrage, outrage gets attention, and the media loves attention.[/QUOTE]
Well this is fairly common sense, at least in my understanding, what I'm saying is that real feminists should have the voice instead of these pieces of entertainment.
I went to another tab before they started their act and I thought they let a bunch of baboons on stage, but then changed the tab back to see I was horribly mistaken.
[QUOTE=Kentz;46627904]in my eyes this is degenerate[/QUOTE]
Blame Poe's law, but I can't tell if you seriously just called something Entartete 'Kunst', or if it was sarcastic (or if you meant something else entirely). Would you mind clarifying?
[QUOTE=Lui2112;46627881]This form is so biased. i know it's a game related forum, but there may be feminists gamers who this forum, who feel pretty downtrodden from people laughing at what they may see as fine art representing feminist.
Disclaimer: I am not a women ,nor a feminist. I also found this a bit funny at first, and don't get it from a first impression angle, but none the less, you can't really claim "art" to be wrong in my eyes.[/QUOTE]
It's not wrong, but it does suck and I've got no qualms with stating that.
How is this feminism
could've just called it performance art, no need to slap a feminist tag on it
[QUOTE=Lui2112;46627881]This form is so biased. i know it's a game related forum, but there may be feminists gamers who this forum, who feel pretty downtrodden from people laughing at what they may see as fine art representing feminist.
Disclaimer: I am not a women ,nor a feminist. I also found this a bit funny at first, and don't get it from a first impression angle, but none the less, you can't really claim "art" to be wrong in my eyes.[/QUOTE]
You should go back to Tumblr
[QUOTE=angelangel;46627661][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxQ7ZaGFcK8[/media][/QUOTE]
Does this count as plagiarism?
[video=youtube;HdZ9weP5i68]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZ9weP5i68[/video]
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;46627907]This feels [i]really[/i] odd coming from a guy who defended a [del]serial rapist[/del] pickup artist.
At least your English has gotten a lot better.[/QUOTE]
I never defended him, in all of the universal laws, not once did I directly defend him, no one knew my stance personally on him, because I wasn't asked, I just accused the people of hiding their true feelings, when you make hysterics over a topic, people like me are going to have field days.
Anyway it shouldn't feel odd, I'm not here to defend feminists either, I'm trying to stand up for open ended debates. If i can improve my english that much, in a short time span, without academic help, surely you can learn to interpret opinions has a third view, rather than see it as black and white, and picking a "side". :D
did a bit of searching and it seems like the company that created it is just known for making shocking plays for the sake of making them shocking
here's the trailer for the play btw
[media]http://vimeo.com/91611919[/media]
maybe the rest of the show isnt them screaming for 90 minutes, maybe them turning the page while doing something as simple as screaming is part of the 'art'. Either way, having just them screaming and introducing it as 'feminism for the 21st century' at the end of a show watched by people who really wouldn't care about stuff like this is rather silly.
I actually liked it. Sure it's ~artistic~ but I feel that it was interesting and pretty well tuned. I wonder how it fits together with a whole show and stuff.
EDIT: But in the context of just introducing it as modern feminism, I felt that was a bit back-handed, especially in a setting where people wouldn't be open to such a presentation.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;46628541]Blame Poe's law, but I can't tell if you seriously just called something Entartete 'Kunst', or if it was sarcastic (or if you meant something else entirely). Would you mind clarifying?[/QUOTE]
it's degenerate but its not "entartete kunst"
it's just really shit, pretentious and has no substance
i dont have anything against avant garde / modernism (infact, i like quite a bit from early 20th century) but this is just try hard. its like one of those bussotti requiems which makes you physically ill
Wow, this whole time hearing coyotes screaming in the woods was really just a bunch of women preforming scream singing? Go figure!
Mozart, step aside, Beethoven fuck'outta here, we got the 21st century chimps performing.
[QUOTE=Kentz;46628813]it's degenerate but its not "entartete kunst"
it's just really shit, pretentious and has no substance
i dont have anything against avant garde / modernism (infact, i like quite a bit from early 20th century) but this is just try hard. its like one of those bussotti requiems which makes you physically ill[/QUOTE]
Ah, alright. Sorry but "degenerate art" just has [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art]certain connotations.[/url] Which actually are pretty well in line with how some people here react to feminism of any degree.
The one in the back in the gold dress is trying her hardest not to laugh.
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