1:23 is where the content starts (I know some people don't like people doing this for some reason but I came to the video for the topic, not the first few minutes of him talking about unrelated stuff/skits I dont care about)
While I love Nintendo I absolutely agree with this, Amiibos were the same story when they were first released.
Can't wait to get trampled trying to get one of 10 available Nintendo Switches
It's absolutely shit for the customers and the workers, but it's smart on Nintendo's end to do the same thing as toy manufacturers and some shoe manufacturers. The NES Classic will probably end up selling more in a year's time than if they had enough to line shelves.
[editline]28th November 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51440573]Can't wait to get trampled trying to get one of 10 available Nintendo Switches[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, the Switch is 100% going to have these issues as well.
I don't remember if the 3DS did, but the Switch seems a fair amount more desirable based on launch titles.
Every time I get an email about the stock of the new NES Classic on Amazon it's gone when I check it... spot on.
I didnt even know this, but now i do.
Thank god for jim
[QUOTE=Cushie;51440478]1:23 is where the content starts (I know some people don't like people doing this for some reason but I came to the video for the topic, not the first few minutes of him talking about unrelated stuff/skits I dont care about)[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your work, I appreciate it.
Unfortunately, I can hear his annoying theme song in my head even when I mute it to find the time stamp
Does he REALLY have to use the amiibos in that way during the video?
If you really want an Amiibo just buy from Japan. They usually have the stock.
Nintendo has had this issue ever since the Wii launched 10 years ago. It makes the stock issues for new GPUs look minor in comparison. They honestly need to get their shit together. Especially since its been revealed the machine just uses a mostly off the shelf configuration.
I was talking to the guys at the local gamestop on black friday and they started telling me about how their black friday inventory shipments are decided by publishers and manufacturers.
One of Gamestop's headline sales on the biggest sale days of the year was a New 3DS for $100 and Nintendo sent [I]two units[/I]. That's mind boggling.
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;51441089]I was talking to the guys at the local gamestop on black friday and we talked about how their black friday inventory shipments are decided by publishers and manufacturers.
One of Gamestop's headline sales on the biggest sale days of the year was a New 3DS for $100 and Nintendo sends [I]two units[/I]. That's mind boggling.[/QUOTE]
Must be a very very low volume store. The one by me is a medium to high volume store. They got 20+ N3DS systems, but only two of the NES Classics.
They were sold out of the N3DS about 20 minutes after opening.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51440573]Can't wait to get trampled trying to get one of 10 available Nintendo Switches[/QUOTE]
If the Wii U is anything to go by I can't see a reason to even try to get the Switch on Launch.
Fuck I'll wait a few months to see if it actually has any value or not.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51440573]Can't wait to get trampled trying to get one of 10 available Nintendo Switches[/QUOTE]
You just gotta go back to those Wii shopping survival tactics. Fighting through a crowd of people at the one target that has a single unit behind the counter.
[QUOTE=Makol;51441104]Must be a very very low volume store.[/QUOTE]
It could be I guess. Place is in a good location with a ton of traffic though.
They may get a lot of foot traffic but it's possible they don't meet their sales goals enough to justify larger shipments of popular items.
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51440702]Does he REALLY have to use the amiibos in that way during the video?[/QUOTE]
He has to fill the airtime somehow. It's either that or him talking directly to the camera.
[QUOTE=Makol;51441185]They may get a lot of foot traffic but it's possible they don't meet their sales goals enough to justify larger shipments of popular items.[/QUOTE]
If you're talking about Target. I was a sales floor team leader at target and I can assure you the way electronics releases are done have less do with sales. They are predetermined items that are set to be shipped weeks in advance before any sales could even be calculated.
Target's main metric is always guest satisfaction and it's the only reason the company thinks it has a right to exist. The Target brand is supposed to stand in stark contrast with retailers like WalMart and the last thing that the company wants is thousands of guest complaints.
They took this to the extreme a few years ago by unrolling a policy called "The Vibe" which was essentially "do anything the guest wants no matter what" which resulted in millions in losses from people scamming guest service and team members through complaints about advertisements that never existed, fraudulent coupons, etc.
Also the mechanism for Target's automatic replenishment system would most likely quadruple the order of the item if it sold out as quick as it did. Although I am almost certain that the distribution of hot electronic items like this are performed on a more regional scale that a local scale.
[QUOTE=Makol;51441185]They may get a lot of foot traffic but it's possible they don't meet their sales goals enough to justify larger shipments of popular items.[/QUOTE]
Economy of scale, though. In a competitive market it doesn't pay off to launch a small amount of products like these because the price per unit is too expensive and the retail price will be way above the substitute's.
That being said, the tactic to effectively bait people into buying them at a permanent high price might be circumventing that. It really depends if Nintendo is actually holding thousands of these in stockpiles behind a curtain or are planning to ramp up the serial production later on, but judging by some of their recent retail efforts, they might just be straight up blind.
I worked for GameStop for about two years and found that most shipments are based on over all sales and sales of similar items.
For example, if a store has trouble selling Nintendo products there is a higher chance they won't get larger shipments of Nintendo products since the product will sit in the (very small) back room for ages and either the sent back to the warehouse or to a different store.
yeah honestly nintendo has been selling like shit for the past couple years. of course they're not going to have large supply of the shit that isn't selling.
I can tell you from personal experience that, when compared to the Xbox and Playstation platforms, Wii U sells like garbage. you only need to look to the numbers to know that. and if the consoles aren't selling, i can guarantee you the games aren't selling either. 3DS on the other hand sells well, but nowhere near as much as the PS4 or Xbox One.
the other thing is too that people wanted amiibo so much early on but as time went on people lost interest very quickly when they were in stock. we had like, no amiibo early on and you had to line up to get it, but we got a huge stock last christmas and we're still chipping away at that. nobody even touches the new amiibo. of course when the nes classics came out, we had plenty and they were gone within minutes because the nintendo market is so un-fucking-predictable it's really not possible to figure out what the hell consumers want (and when it is, resellers are the first in line.)
nintendo just doesn't sell as much as they used to, and not as much as the market requires for a company to stay properly afloat. think about it: gamecube sold like shit, so the wii was in low quantities. then the wii became popular, and was hard to get. then the 3ds and games were easy to get at launch and throughout it's lifespan. the wii u was not, and everything since then has been in low stock even though they're in high demand (and it's not because everyone who wants one wants one for themselves, it's because of resellers.) the switch will be the next wii in terms of quantities, which is probably why it's best they're not releasing it until after the holiday season.
and the solution is not "make more" because i dunno if you remember, but iwata had to take a pay cut just to make sure his employees got paid. nintendo has barely enough money to stay afloat and put it into R&D which is their greatest export, but in terms of actual units nintendo has to make the money back on that development first. when amiibo became more popular, they could sell more, but now that they're not selling, they're barely producing them and nobody cares. it's a shitty cycle and there's not really a way out. so quit blaming nintendo for everything, they aren't the only variable in this shitty equation that is the modern gaming market.
Maybe Nintendo should start selling some of their older titles on other platforms? I know the whole point of buying Nintendo consoles is the exclusives, but maybe they should? It might help the company a little or be the key to saving them. All I know is if they don't change something soon there won't be a Nintendo anymore.
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51443021]Maybe Nintendo should start selling some of their older titles on other platforms? I know the whole point of buying Nintendo consoles is the exclusives, but maybe they should? It might help the company a little or be the key to saving them. All I know is if they don't change something soon there won't be a Nintendo anymore.[/QUOTE]
They aren't that desperate for money, they can be on the decline but still be around for many more years to come.
[QUOTE=Gamerman12;51442986]yeah honestly nintendo has been selling like shit for the past couple years. of course they're not going to have large supply of the shit that isn't selling.
I can tell you from personal experience that, when compared to the Xbox and Playstation platforms, Wii U sells like garbage. you only need to look to the numbers to know that. and if the consoles aren't selling, i can guarantee you the games aren't selling either. 3DS on the other hand sells well, but nowhere near as much as the PS4 or Xbox One.
the other thing is too that people wanted amiibo so much early on but as time went on people lost interest very quickly when they were in stock. we had like, no amiibo early on and you had to line up to get it, but we got a huge stock last christmas and we're still chipping away at that. nobody even touches the new amiibo. of course when the nes classics came out, we had plenty and they were gone within minutes because the nintendo market is so un-fucking-predictable it's really not possible to figure out what the hell consumers want (and when it is, resellers are the first in line.)
nintendo just doesn't sell as much as they used to, and not as much as the market requires for a company to stay properly afloat. think about it: gamecube sold like shit, so the wii was in low quantities. then the wii became popular, and was hard to get. then the 3ds and games were easy to get at launch and throughout it's lifespan. the wii u was not, and everything since then has been in low stock even though they're in high demand (and it's not because everyone who wants one wants one for themselves, it's because of resellers.) the switch will be the next wii in terms of quantities, which is probably why it's best they're not releasing it until after the holiday season.
and the solution is not "make more" because i dunno if you remember, but iwata had to take a pay cut just to make sure his employees got paid. nintendo has barely enough money to stay afloat and put it into R&D which is their greatest export, but in terms of actual units nintendo has to make the money back on that development first. when amiibo became more popular, they could sell more, but now that they're not selling, they're barely producing them and nobody cares. it's a shitty cycle and there's not really a way out. so quit blaming nintendo for everything, they aren't the only variable in this shitty equation that is the modern gaming market.[/QUOTE]
You make it sound like Nintendo is on the edge of bankruptcy or some shit
I doubt they're anywhere near [I]actual[/I] trouble, they may not be doing as good as they could but it seems to me like they could do three times as bad and still be around in a decade or two
3 NES classics on launch at Target, lmao that's fucking pathetic.
It's really weird to always hear about how Nintendo can never meet demands for their products like Amiibos and whatever, every time I go to a games store here there's shelves and shelves of Amiibos that just aren't moving. Hell even things like the super ultra limited edition Majora's Mask 3D with some figure, my local electronics store had piles of those for months and months.
Are Nintendo just shipping all their stock to Australia by mistake?
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;51443706]It's really weird to always hear about how Nintendo can never meet demands for their products like Amiibos and whatever, every time I go to a games store here there's shelves and shelves of Amiibos that just aren't moving. Hell even things like the super ultra limited edition Majora's Mask 3D with some figure, my local electronics store had piles of those for months and months.
Are Nintendo just shipping all their stock to Australia by mistake?[/QUOTE]
I'm fairly certain that their inability to stock properly as been primarily in the USA. As an amiibo collector, I recall Europe, for example, never really having the limited stock problems we had going on here for the longest time. Back in the days when I never imagined I could get my hands on Ike, Robin and Lucina for a good price, they had all of them stocked regularly. I just assumed Nintendo of America was shafting us for some reason and everyone else was fine.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51443527]You make it sound like Nintendo is on the edge of bankruptcy or some shit
I doubt they're anywhere near [I]actual[/I] trouble, they may not be doing as good as they could but it seems to me like they could do three times as bad and still be around in a decade or two[/QUOTE]
they aren't in trouble or are going away any time soon, but im just saying they don't have the capacity to just throw money at the problem, because nobody's buying their shit. which is why nintendo isn't giving even reasonable stock numbers to most stores.
honestly for nintendo, printing a bunch of anything really is a big risk for them unless they know it'll be a huge seller. and sure, they could've guessed, but they don't see the demand until it's on the market. and once they find out there's demand, they print a million, then demand goes down and uh-oh suddenly retailers are trying to figure out what the hell to do with their 100 marths they ordered back when it was relevant (no joke our local best buy had about 100 marths and they're still sitting there. and that's just a small store.)
again, nintendo's not going anywhere, but that's because they aren't dropping millions of dollars into a pit until they know something will come from it. they can't confidently do that like EA does by giving stores hundreds of copies of their sports games at release and never restocking, cause they know they'll sell even over time.
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