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Not sure if I like the message from this one. To me it comes off as them saying "news networks should just abandon all pretense of objectivity and blatantly show bias one way or another".
This is a terrible message, and it's exactly the reason why I dislike Vox.
Not only are they not even pretending to be unbiased, ethical, and not opinionated, they want the rest of the media to be that way too.
You don't need the news anchor to panic in order to see that shit is fucked, you just need to listen to what he says.
I think our perspective on what makes a time insane has really shifted.
So far Trump has been opposed at nearly every turn. The only thing he's done is change the budgets.
I'd like to see how Vox handles it when the world gets into another major conflict.
Problem with this is news anchors start freaking out about something as they should they're not going to look credible so they usually get their panels to do it for them especially when the left wing media is at an unfair advantage when it comes to emotions displayed.
Right-Wing anchor acts emotional and no one gives a shit because they set that standard, or at worst they're seen as "patriotic"
CNN anchor gets emotional and suddenly they're social justice warrior crybabies.
No one cares about substance anymore. It's all about emotions.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;52537993]Problem with this is news anchors start freaking out about something as they should they're not going to look credible so they usually get their panels to do it for them especially when the left wing media is at an unfair advantage when it comes to emotions displayed.
Right-Wing anchor acts emotional and no one gives a shit because they set that standard, or at worst they're seen as "patriotic"
CNN anchor gets emotional and suddenly they're social justice warrior crybabies.
No one cares about substance anymore. It's all about emotions.[/QUOTE]
Vox get emotional all the time and people watch this SJW trash regardless. I'd like to see an example of there being a bias towards leftist media. Leftist media is almost always emotional and people eat that shit right up. It's not a partisan issue
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;52538012]Vox get emotional all the time and people watch this SJW trash regardless. I'd like to see an example of there being a bias towards leftist media. Leftist media is almost always emotional and people eat that shit right up. It's not a partisan issue[/QUOTE]
Well, what do you define as "leftist media"?
When I think of left-wing media I think of MSNBC, CNN, NBC, CBS, PBS. Shit like Vox and Buzzfeed is an entirely different category to me because I think it would be unfair to group the two together, like it would be unfair to group Fox News with Breitbart + InfoWars when describing right-wing media. Actually I think that would make my point easier to prove. Look at anyone who watches Breitbart and Infowars; emotionally driven content that usually has articles or segments attacking emotionally driven civilians. But of course that's low hanging fruit.
If that's not accepted (it shouldn't be), look at Fox News, the most watched media outlet in the nation. If possible, go back in time to the Ferguson Protests in December when Fox News were complaining about how the rioters were emotionally driven while the day after they run pieces about the War on Christmas and a lot of their more religious anchors getting heated.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;52538091]Well, what do you define as "leftist media"?
When I think of left-wing media I think of MSNBC, CNN, NBC, CBS, PBS. Shit like Vox and Buzzfeed is an entirely different category to me because I think it would be unfair to group the two together, like it would be unfair to group Fox News with Breitbart + InfoWars when describing right-wing media. Actually I think that would make my point easier to prove. Look at anyone who watches Breitbart and Infowars; emotionally driven content that usually has articles or segments attacking emotionally driven civilians. But of course that's low hanging fruit.
If that's not accepted (it shouldn't be), look at Fox News, the most watched media outlet in the nation. If possible, go back in time to the Ferguson Protests in December when Fox News were complaining about how the rioters were emotionally driven while the day after they run pieces about the War on Christmas and a lot of their more religious anchors getting heated.[/QUOTE]
Putting the likes of Vox, Vice and Buzzfeed News into a separate category when it's convenient is too, well, convenient. I have seen people say that Buzzfeed News should count as a valid source in SH and polidicks because apparently it's not as bad as regular Buzzfeed. This is how low the bar for news is these days. They are just as influential as mainstream media now.
And I don't see people rioting over the war on Christmas, you are comparing very different levels of emotionally driven here
[QUOTE=Funktastic Dog;52537974]I think our perspective on what makes a time insane has really shifted.
So far Trump has been opposed at nearly every turn. The only thing he's done is change the budgets.
I'd like to see how Vox handles it when the world gets into another major conflict.[/QUOTE]
When you live in an apartment that costs the same as three houses in the next state over and your "grueling day" consists of getting up at 9:00 and whining to a random barista for an hour at hyperhipster coffee shop you now haunt because starbuck's is [i]so over[/i] and your largest dilemma of the day has been whether fuchsia goes with teal after may 1st, your level of insulation tends to eventually bleed into everything, including what information you deem relevant.
We're on the precipice of denying 30 million people basic rights and care, and even with that level of care 50,000 people are dying of literal neglect every year and you won't hear a thing from Vox because if there's on thing Vox hates more than conservatives it's [i]smelly dirty poor people[/i].
The real easy fix is stop giving these people money and views.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;52538141]Putting the likes of Vox, Vice and Buzzfeed News into a separate category when it's convenient is too, well, convenient. I have seen people say that Buzzfeed News should count as a valid source in SH and polidicks because apparently it's not as bad as regular Buzzfeed. This is how low the bar for news is these days. They are just as influential as mainstream media now. And I don't see people rioting over the war on Christmas, you are comparing very different levels of emotionally driven here.[/quote]
Unfortunately I'm not some sort of hivemind who thinks that buzzfeed has it's place in Sensationalist Headlines. Did you know that I was the first person who suggested the use of mediabiasfactcheck's factual reporting and bias rating to be used in determining the eligibility of a news article? Doesn't make much sense when that same rule would make Buzzfeed ineligible.
No matter how you look at it it's going to be "convenient" for me. On one hand, allowing Buzzfeed into the discussion gives me any and all right to include other vapid media content like The New York Post Breitbart into the conversation. On the other I don't have to suffer through a conversation about Buzzfeed.
And you're right. Two very emotional levels of emotionality here.
One is getting upset that people are now saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas", the other is getting upset over the relationship between the police and african americans.
this presenter is terrible...
he talks like he belongs on fuckin blues clues
News outlets are supposed to discuss what is, not what should be.
They're not a means of telling you how to react. They're a means of telling you what's what so you can react according to your own personal beliefs.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;52538091]Well, what do you define as "leftist media"?
When I think of left-wing media I think of MSNBC, CNN, NBC, CBS, PBS. Shit like Vox and Buzzfeed is an entirely different category to me because I think it would be unfair to group the two together, like it would be unfair to group Fox News with Breitbart + InfoWars when describing right-wing media. Actually I think that would make my point easier to prove. Look at anyone who watches Breitbart and Infowars; emotionally driven content that usually has articles or segments attacking emotionally driven civilians. But of course that's low hanging fruit.
If that's not accepted (it shouldn't be), look at Fox News, the most watched media outlet in the nation. If possible, go back in time to the Ferguson Protests in December when Fox News were complaining about how the rioters were emotionally driven while the day after they run pieces about the War on Christmas and a lot of their more religious anchors getting heated.[/QUOTE]
I suspect it would be most appropriate to view it as a spectrum. Breitbart and Infowars is to Fox News what The Mary Sue, the Huffington Post or Buzfeed is to MSNBC or PBS. Vox might be akin to conservative media outlets like [url=https://www.spectator.co.uk/]The Spectator[/url] in that it's reporting is generally factual but the topics it reports on are overwhelmingly left-wing focused issues and so are its opinion pieces.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;52538191]Unfortunately I'm not some sort of hivemind who thinks that buzzfeed has it's place in Sensationalist Headlines. Did you know that I was the first person who suggested the use of mediabiasfactcheck's factual reporting and bias rating to be used in determining the eligibility of a news article? Doesn't make much sense when that same rule would make Buzzfeed ineligible.
No matter how you look at it it's going to be "convenient" for me. On one hand, allowing Buzzfeed into the discussion gives me any and all right to include other vapid media content like The New York Post Breitbart into the conversation. On the other I don't have to suffer through a conversation about Buzzfeed.
And you're right. Two very emotional levels of emotionality here.
One is getting upset that people are now saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas", the other is getting upset over the relationship between the police and african americans.[/QUOTE]
I am not calling you out on anything, there's no need for the snarky hivemind comeback.
And I did say that the issue isn't just with leftist media, what else do you want? I won't defend fox news and infowars. I want both sides of the political spectrum to at least try being unbiased and ethical, because throwing shit at each other achieves nothing.
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