Waiting for WWI to be totally glossed over and WWII to compromise over 90% of it.
I watched some it, and it was 100% WWI stuff in the first part. I haven't watched the other two parts yet since each episode is about 2 hours long.
Don't watch it if you're the type to sperg out about bad costuming. They try to pass off an M5 Stuart as something out of the Great War. The sets and choreography are pretty garbage too, whole show clearly didn't have much of a budget.
My friend is in this woo
he gets killed :(
[QUOTE=Makol;45007189]I watched some it, and it was 100% WWI stuff in the first part. I haven't watched the other two parts yet since each episode is about 2 hours long.[/QUOTE]
Oh fuck, there is more than one episode?
I forgot to record the others. Hell, it was only by chance I managed to record the first, and even then I missed the first 15 minutes.
I like their approach. I feel like most WWII stories completely ignore the connections with WWI.
whoa history on the history channel? holy crap
ironically it still has "drama" in it however
"Hitler will defeat us unless we do something!! :("
[QUOTE=The Maestro;45007157]Waiting for WWI to be totally glossed over and WWII to compromise over 90% of it.[/QUOTE]
Part 1 is all WW1, and it goes into Part 2 as well.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;45007244]Don't watch it if you're the type to sperg out about bad costuming. They try to pass off an M5 Stuart as something out of the Great War. The sets and choreography are pretty garbage too, whole show clearly didn't have much of a budget.[/QUOTE]
Kind of entertaining to spot just how far off they were.
In one scene I believe they depicted Polish troops during the Nazi invasion using RPD-44 machine guns, which were Russian guns that weren't produced until after the war.
[QUOTE=J!NX;45007302]whoa history on the history channel? holy crap[/QUOTE]
Can't get enough of Larry the Cable Guy
Isn't this the show that was so inaccurate that it had Hitler and his men using Lee Enfields during the Beer Hall Putsch?
That thing about Hitler almost being shot by the allied soldier in WW1 is so apocryphal, I'm surprised that they had the balls to mention it.
It's also funny that it says that "AN DEN GENRUL PATUN REVOLUTSHINIZED MOBIL WARFUR"
No he didn't. He didn't. He didn't revolutionize a damn thing.
Watched the first episode. Entertaining, but doesn't deserve to be called a documentary. Still, it taught me a few new things that I'll be sure to research via actual documentaries.
Even among the inaccuracies I think the funniest part is the amount of commercial breaks. Is this what American TV is like?
I like how the mention Patton in this but not Rommel, at all.
They seemed to have a Patton fetish in part 3, for fuck's sake he's like the only guy they talk about for half the episode.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;45008071]It's also funny that it says that "AN DEN GENRUL PATUN REVOLUTSHINIZED MOBIL WARFUR"
No he didn't. He didn't. He didn't revolutionize a damn thing.[/QUOTE]
Americans obsession with Patton really annoys me. Firstly he didn't revolutionise mobile warfare, people like J.F.C Fuller, Heinz Gudarian and Erich Manstein did. Secondly Patton was only good at one thing, advancing where there were no Germans, look at Operation Cobra, he captured half of France because the British and the rest of the Americans were fighting all the Germans in Normandy, Thirdly Patton was a huge asshole irl, he was moved from the Italian front because he bullied Shell Shocked soldiers.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;45008115]Watched the first episode. Entertaining, but doesn't deserve to be called a documentary. Still, it taught me a few new things that I'll be sure to research via actual documentaries.
Even among the inaccuracies I think the funniest part is the amount of commercial breaks. Is this what American TV is like?[/QUOTE]
Yup, I stopped watching T.V because of it. It would just ruin the experience and then they always have something big or dramatic happen and cut to a commercial and then it would come back and it wasn't that big of a deal. Repeat this for every commercial break, its so abysmal.
Didn't they try to show T-34s as Shermans once
[QUOTE=mastermaul;45007244]Don't watch it if you're the type to sperg out about bad costuming. They try to pass off an M5 Stuart as something out of the Great War. The sets and choreography are pretty garbage too, whole show clearly didn't have much of a budget.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, me, my dad, and his friend were pointing everything out haha. In a few scenes they even had one of those fake chromed drill Springfields. It was for a British guy too. :v:
Maybe they didn't have someone to check all of that shit.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;45008115]Even among the inaccuracies I think the funniest part is the amount of commercial breaks. Is this what American TV is like?[/QUOTE]
That's what American [I]life[/I] is like, advertising is everywhere here. It's like the internet without adblock.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;45008122]I like how the mention Patton in this but not Rommel, at all.[/QUOTE]
Prolly because it's all about Churchill, FDR, Patton, and Hitler. Stalin, Mussolini, MacArthur, and Tojo get like 5 minutes of air time. They also never mention Rommel, Goring, Goebbels, Himmler, Hirohito, or Yamamoto. I also recall the previews showing de Gaulle as a main character but I don't remember even seeing him once.
[QUOTE=Nestophales;45011813]Prolly because it's all about Churchill, FDR, Patton, and Hitler. Stalin, Mussolini, MacArthur, and Tojo get like 5 minutes of air time. They also never mention Rommel, Goring, Goebbels, Himmler, Hirohito, or Yamamoto. I also recall the previews showing de Gaulle as a main character but I don't remember even seeing him once.[/QUOTE]
yea seems like they were more looking at the political figures of the war rather than actual commanders.
I still found it funny that Hitler was speaking to his men in english
wasn't that the show that had the nazis pull out their garmin GPS while lost in the forests of finland when the model of GPS they were using should've had a monochromatic screen instead of a colour display?
[QUOTE=The mouse;45008197]Americans obsession with Patton really annoys me. Firstly he didn't revolutionise mobile warfare, people like J.F.C Fuller, Heinz Gudarian and Erich Manstein did. Secondly Patton was only good at one thing, advancing where there were no Germans, look at Operation Cobra, he captured half of France because the British and the rest of the Americans were fighting all the Germans in Normandy, Thirdly Patton was a huge asshole irl, he was moved from the Italian front because he bullied Shell Shocked soldiers.[/QUOTE]
Patton was undoubtedly quite skilled at what he did and appreciated mechanized warfare better than a lot of his peers in the U.S. military, and while a lot of his soldiers did not love him, a great many respected him. No, I don't think he "revolutionized" anything, and I have a dislike for him as a person because of his blatant racism and his incredibly stupid idea to try starting a fight with the Soviets, but I will say that he was a damn fine commander. That being said, the worship of Patton (and to a lesser extent Rommel) is pretty damn overblown here.
You know what I want to see on TV here? More on the resistance movements in Europe. We like joking about the French being wussies but some people actually believe that 100% of all French people surrendered without a fight, Polish people actually used cavalry against tanks, etc. etc.
[QUOTE=redBadger;45013064]I still found it funny that Hitler was speaking to his men in english[/QUOTE]
It makes the show even better when the actor for young Hitler looked almost exactly like Trevor from WKUK doing Hitler.
[QUOTE=The Maestro;45007157]Waiting for WWI to be totally glossed over and WWII to compromise over 90% of it.[/QUOTE]
Nope. What was glossed over was how much occurred to happenstance and how planning pretty much flew out the window.
It completely overemphasized in typical HISTORY EXTREME EXTREME EXTREME SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY LIVE AT THE COLOSSEUM history channel fashion the roles each participant actually played in the war. Pretty much stopped just short of having Roosevelt strap rockets onto his wheelchair to fight Hitler in a no holds barred deathmatch while Patton uses his mind powers to confuse Stalin so the Americans can get there first.
Pretty much just like the Bible last year, a shit load of fluff, sprinkled with a few actual facts and anecdotes.
young stalin actually looks sortal ike young stalin
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