[QUOTE=HappyCompy;44708186][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T8IpblGS-E[/media][/QUOTE]
Sounds like the dude's bored.
I think the boredom in the voice could be fixed by simply making the music slightly louder, and adding some slight reverb effects to the voice though. Making the voice sound a bit deeper and more angry/menacing would probably work as well.
Rome 2 was such a disaster I just don't care about it at all any more.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;44709043]Rome 2 was such a disaster I just don't care about it at all any more.[/QUOTE]
Shogun 2 was pretty great though.
Much better than your Briton trailer!
I'm liking the improvement
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;44709074]Shogun 2 was pretty great though.[/QUOTE]
Oh I love Shogun 2, in fact I love most of the TW games, just Rome 2 was so disappointing
What a terrible voice actor.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;44709392]Oh I love Shogun 2, in fact I love most of the TW games, just Rome 2 was so disappointing[/QUOTE]
Then don't expect everything to be the second coming of Christ.
I bought Rome II, was mildly satisfied with vanilla, and then soon dived into the mods and haven't looked back and have had some of the most TW fun I've had since Napoleon.
As a person who has only played Rome 2 and liked it enough, would someone kindly explain to me why almost the entire fan-base of the Total War series despises this game? On the subject of the video though they could have definitely done the voice acting better.
[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;44708546]Sounds like the dude's bored.[/QUOTE]
probably sets the tone for the game well then
I feel as though they watered down Rome II to try and gain more of a fanbase. I don't think they understood that everyone bought Rome II Because of how amazing Shogun II was.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;44709392]Oh I love Shogun 2, in fact I love most of the TW games, just Rome 2 was so disappointing[/QUOTE]
Oddly, I enjoy the battles. Barring some annoyances (Like the needlessly huge UI or the AI bugging out on occasion) they are really fun.
The campaign is just garbage though, not fun at all. Its just boring, lifeless, and unfinished. It only serves as a means to an end to get me to the battles and lend them importance.
If they had just made Shogun II again but with a reskin for a new time period, that would have sufficed.
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;44710271]
If they had just made Shogun II again but with a reskin for a new time period, that would have sufficed.[/QUOTE]
Shogun 2 had a near perfect release and incredible multiplayer. The campaign was pretty bad because of some dumb/arbitrary mechanics (alliances don't mean shit, everybody declares war on you, etc).
Fall of the Samurai had a pretty great campaign and apparently Rise of the Samurai did too.
[QUOTE=CP-26;44709959]As a person who has only played Rome 2 and liked it enough, would someone kindly explain to me why almost the entire fan-base of the Total War series despises this game?[/QUOTE]
It's the vocal minority. Rome II is the most successful Total War game in existence.
Rome II had an abysmal launch, perhaps the worst in the series. I dropped it for the first 4 months of it's release, but 12 patches later, the game is now perhaps the best in the series (in my humble opinion). Mind you, I've been with the series since Medieval 1.
Edit: except the political system, that shit is bad.
[QUOTE=HappyCompy;44710592]It's the vocal minority. Rome II is the most successful Total War game in existence.
Rome II had an abysmal launch, perhaps the worst in the series. I dropped it for the first 4 months of it's release, but 12 patches later, the game is now perhaps the best in the series (in my humble opinion). Mind you, I've been with the series since Medieval 1.
Edit: except the political system, that shit is bad.[/QUOTE]
I hear you on the political system, for my Bactrian campaign I was almost always losing my entire treasury every other turn because the other noble houses were blackmailing my generals again and again. That and gaining support seems rather arbitrary as far as what you can actively do to increase your side's influence beyond just having more generals under your family.
i love rome 2 and i don't understand where the hate comes from, but then i didn't play it until about 6 months after release or something
not being someone who is massively clued up on strategy games and balancing and things like that, i don't get why people despise rome but love shogun. personally i thought shogun was boring as fuck. with the whole game set on a single island where the cultures are more-or-less exactly the same, with everyone fielding the same 4 different unit types, it just felt like rock-paper-scissors in a boring setting
[QUOTE=CP-26;44709959]As a person who has only played Rome 2 and liked it enough, would someone kindly explain to me why almost the entire fan-base of the Total War series despises this game? On the subject of the video though they could have definitely done the voice acting better.[/QUOTE]
There's several hours worth of videos on YouTube of veteran Total War players dissecting Rome 2. Some of what they mention has been addressed by patches but a lot hasn't. I don't want to stretch the page so I'll just post the links.
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_QK-lcW8a8"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_QK-lcW8a8[/URL]
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXkWfEIALxM"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXkWfEIALxM[/URL]
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA6BOjqjfvI"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA6BOjqjfvI[/URL]
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eaBtzqqFA"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eaBtzqqFA[/URL]
[QUOTE=HappyCompy;44710592]It's the vocal minority. Rome II is the most successful Total War game in existence.[/QUOTE]
Vocal [I]with damn good reason![/I] The entirety of Rome 2's marketing hype before release was blatant false advertising and they knew it. Tons of videos of previews and interviews hyping up the playerbase, driving up pre-orders, all leading up to the complete abomination that they called a game. If this was for any other product like a household appliance or car there'd be mass refunds and/or lawsuits. I'm never going to buy DLC for Rome 2 now because I've realized that doing that means I condone these disgustingly shady business practices.
When Battlefield 4 came out and had severe problems they hit the fucking brakes on everything they were doing and worked on fixing the game so it was the functional product the buyers were promised.
Creative Assembly took their sweet time and as an example, to this day politics still is completely pointless. "Oh sure we'll fix the game. It might be a while though. In the meantime, would you like to nibble on some delicious DLC?"
The time they had to get back the respect they lost from long time fans is long past. Anything they do now for Rome 2 is too little, too late.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;44714140]There's several hours worth of videos on YouTube of veteran Total War players dissecting Rome 2. Some of what they mention has been addressed by patches but a lot hasn't. I don't want to stretch the page so I'll just post the links.
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_QK-lcW8a8"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_QK-lcW8a8[/URL]
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXkWfEIALxM"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXkWfEIALxM[/URL]
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA6BOjqjfvI"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA6BOjqjfvI[/URL]
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eaBtzqqFA"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eaBtzqqFA[/URL]
Vocal [I]with damn good reason![/I] The entirety of Rome 2's marketing hype before release was blatant false advertising and they knew it. Tons of videos of previews and interviews hyping up the playerbase, driving up pre-orders, all leading up to the complete abomination that they called a game. If this was for any other product like a household appliance or car there'd be mass refunds and/or lawsuits. I'm never going to buy DLC for Rome 2 now because I've realized that doing that means I condone these disgustingly shady business practices.
When Battlefield 4 came out and had severe problems they hit the fucking brakes on everything they were doing and worked on fixing the game so it was the functional product the buyers were promised.
Creative Assembly took their sweet time and as an example, to this day politics still is completely pointless. "Oh sure we'll fix the game. It might be a while though. In the meantime, would you like to nibble on some delicious DLC?"
The time they had to get back the respect they lost from long time fans is long past. Anything they do now for Rome 2 is too little, too late.[/QUOTE]
So from what I'm understanding the major ire old fans have with Rome 2 is that the failed to deliver on promises made during its development and the game on the whole had a large amount of broken or unpopular features? From the Angry Review the game looks horrifically unfinished, though I started playing it long after release, so perhaps I missed these bugs, aside from the occasional unit splitting up ridiculously while attempting to climb a siege ladder, I've seen little in the form of ai bugs myself. However I do notice that the enemy rarely besieges player held settlements even if the force holding them is significant enough to last several turns. Once I was defending a walled settlement from an army of horse archers, and the 4 foot units they had were cut down by my archers before they could get the ladders to the walls, resulting in the horsemen trying to burn my gates down, while being cut down by arrow towers and slingers. I've never seen the ai use any other siege engines besides ladders, yet I'm sure I've seen them besiege other ai settlements before.
yeh the siege ai is dreadful. i had two units of leves successfully defend the same town turn after turn against half-strength armies because the enemy is so incompetent
sometimes they'd have up to two more half-strength armies in reserve but they'd enter the map behind an impassable mountain that would split all their units up and force them to march in columns, and every single time, without fail, they'd have to navigate this mountain by walking the circumference of my entire town within range of the arrow towers
only one or two units would manage to survive the trip without routing and then my leves would mop them up easily
[QUOTE=Hidole555;44714140]There's several hours worth of videos on YouTube of veteran Total War players dissecting Rome 2. Some of what they mention has been addressed by patches but a lot hasn't. I don't want to stretch the page so I'll just post the links.
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_QK-lcW8a8"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_QK-lcW8a8[/URL]
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXkWfEIALxM"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXkWfEIALxM[/URL]
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA6BOjqjfvI"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA6BOjqjfvI[/URL]
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eaBtzqqFA"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eaBtzqqFA[/URL]
Vocal [I]with damn good reason![/I] The entirety of Rome 2's marketing hype before release was blatant false advertising and they knew it. Tons of videos of previews and interviews hyping up the playerbase, driving up pre-orders, all leading up to the complete abomination that they called a game. If this was for any other product like a household appliance or car there'd be mass refunds and/or lawsuits. I'm never going to buy DLC for Rome 2 now because I've realized that doing that means I condone these disgustingly shady business practices.
When Battlefield 4 came out and had severe problems they hit the fucking brakes on everything they were doing and worked on fixing the game so it was the functional product the buyers were promised.
Creative Assembly took their sweet time and as an example, to this day politics still is completely pointless. "Oh sure we'll fix the game. It might be a while though. In the meantime, would you like to nibble on some delicious DLC?"
The time they had to get back the respect they lost from long time fans is long past. Anything they do now for Rome 2 is too little, too late.[/QUOTE]
Although I still believe its one of the best TW games, I really can't argue against any of your points. They're all pretty much the truth.
They really did blatantly fucking lie about what the game was going to be pre-release.
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