My eyes and ears just popped I think. Looks like absolute shit.
Well considering we saw the dismembered arm of Spikeball Arm Man™ or whatever the hell his name is, I think the trailer just spoiled the fact that they're going to pull a Pacific Rim 1 and introduce all these new badass Jaegars like Cherno Alpha and Crimson Typhoon, only to immediately have them impaled by a ten-story tall monster's spiked prehensile cock within ten seconds of entering a fight. Only this time they won't be nearly as interesting.
God. The way the Jaegers move is just [I]all wrong[/I].
Just when I said to myself "thank god they didn't use that terrible music" it started playing. Also, so, like, is that city battle half the movie? Most of the scenes were against the one kaiju. I'd be lying if I said that I didn't want to watch it, though, just for the spectacle and special effects.
did they seriously have to recycle the fist gag? guess they didn't come up with anything of their own
nice character death spoilers, too
Wow, all the charm of the first movie is really really not here. I really did like the first movie, it had potential for an interesting universe, but this is just schlock.
[QUOTE=Joazzz;53134199]did they seriously have to recycle the fist gag? guess they didn't come up with anything of their own
nice character death spoilers, too[/QUOTE]
Take your bets, which is going to be the first and last to die?
My money is on Canadian Electro-Whip and Orange Ninja-Bot respectively, with Gipsy Avenger-Danger MK.II being the sole survivor.
[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;53134158]Just when I said to myself "thank god they didn't use that terrible music" it started playing. Also, so, like, is that city battle half the movie? Most of the scenes were against the one kaiju. I'd be liking if I said that I didn't want to watch it, though, just for the spectacle and special effects.[/QUOTE]
BRING ET ON TILL AH DIE.
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;53134149]God. The way the Jaegers move is just [I]all wrong[/I].[/QUOTE]
When he fucking jumped and pushed himself from the building with no weight.... absolutely disgraceful
That orange Jaeger is pissing me off so much. It starts off by extending its energy swords and just fucking runs them through the buildings. Why? There are people in there, you're supposed to be protecting them. Then it kicks off the building into a jump, I guess people's lives are less important than doing a sick ass karate kick.
Why are they fighting in the middle of a fucking city? In the first film they fought in the water because they didn't want the kaiju to get to the cities, they only fought in the city after they were pushed back, and even then they tried to avoid destroying the buildings.
Fucking Christ. I thought Ghost in the Shell managed to miss the point of its source material, at least that film looks the part and the characters aren't uncaring psychopaths.
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[QUOTE=Antimuffin;53134451]When he fucking jumped and pushed himself from the building with no weight.... absolutely disgraceful[/QUOTE]
Doubly disgraceful. Disgraceful as a film because it's entirely unbelievable, disgraceful as a protector because they're killing the people they're supposed to be protecting.
And I don't give half a shit if the film has a throw away line about the area being evacuated. That's just a cop out used by lazy hacks.
It's not a true Pacific Rim movie without Del Toro at the helm, that's my take on it.
This feels like one of those "straight to DVD" type deals with how shit it looks.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;53134470]Then it kicks off the building into a jump, I guess people's lives are less important than doing a sick ass karate kick.[/QUOTE]
More than that, what the hell is that building made out of that it doesn't just disintegrate underneath the weight of that move? Nothing in this movie seems to have any kind of weight to it. Honestly that whole move looks like it's straight out of a mocap session with no adjustments made to make it look like it's a 150ft mech instead of a person.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;53134470]That orange Jaeger is pissing me off so much. It starts off by extending its energy swords and just fucking runs then through the buildings. Why? There are people in there, you're supposed to be protecting them. Then it kicks off the building into a jump, I guess people's lives are less important than doing a sick ass karate kick.
Why are they fighting in the middle of a fucking city? In the first film they fought in the water because they didn't want the kaiju to get to the cities, they only fought in the city after they were pushed back, and even then they tried to avoid destroying the buildings.
Fucking Christ. I thought Ghost in the Shell managed to miss the point of its source material, at least that film looks the part and the characters aren't uncaring psychopaths.
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Doubly disgraceful. Disgraceful as a film because it's entirely unbelievable, disgraceful as a protector because they're killing the people they're supposed to be protecting.
And I don't give half a shit if the film has a throw away line about the area being evacuated. That's just a cop out used by lazy hacks.[/QUOTE]
on top of that, in the first movie, they make a point of using blunt trauma over cutting weapons, because the kaiju blood is super fucking toxic. Only resorting to cutting weapons when absolutely necessary.
[QUOTE=ForgotPassword;53134574]What was that at the 1:50 mark? Looked like maybe a few frames were missing.[/QUOTE]
I noticed that too. Had to go back just to see that I wasn't imagining that weird cut.
you guys are such sticks in the mud lol
Going from the original film to this is just jarring, some of the movement is just like the original but then everything else is like far too fluid. Ew.
Feels like Dawn of war III all over again where in the previous product they had the big solid dudes move like big solid dudes, then in the next one they suddenly are performing acrobatic feats that make no physical sense.
And they're still using the music that would have been fine for one trailer but not all of them.
:disappoint:
Wow, I can't believe they just uploaded the entire movie onto youtube like that.
[QUOTE=Scot;53134628]you guys are such sticks in the mud lol[/QUOTE]
Look at it from this perspective: This is the third trailer to demonstrate that this film has ditched the style, gravitas (as much as a movie about Mecha fighting Kaiju can have anyway), and established in-universe rules of its predecessor. Is it that strange that fans of the original are disappointed?
[QUOTE=Scot;53134628]you guys are such sticks in the mud lol[/QUOTE]
i havent even seen the first movie but imagine thinking this trailer wasn't complete shit lmao
so this is basically a transformers movie, at least it looks like it
IMO this is going to be the pinnacle of Pacific Rim, regardless of what comes out in the near or far future.
[video=youtube;2_GXFPn6dWU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_GXFPn6dWU[/video]
Rewatching the videos in the thread. Are the new Jaegers like 2-3 times bigger than the old ones? In PR Gypsy Danger's fist is just a bit bigger than one storey when balled into a fist, in the new trailer the orange [del]ranger[/del] Jaeger kicks off a building and takes out 3-4 floors using the side of its foot.
[QUOTE=JerryAnderson;53135459]IMO this is going to be the pinnacle of Pacific Rim, regardless of what comes out in the near or far future.
[video=youtube;2_GXFPn6dWU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_GXFPn6dWU[/video][/QUOTE]this clip made me feel like the new film needs more ground-level close-ups of the robots. if their movement has been made more weightless then you could still salvage some of their original, massive feel with clever filming, but i guess they don't care enough to do that and instead have opted for framing the scenes like they're action figure commercials.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;53135482]Rewatching the videos in the thread. Are the new Jaegers like 2-3 times bigger than the old ones? In PR Gypsy Danger's fist is just a bit bigger than one storey when balled into a fist, in the new trailer the orange [del]ranger[/del] Jaeger kicks off a building and takes out 3-4 floors using the side of its foot.[/QUOTE]
If the Wiki is accurate, they're about the same size. Freeze-framing it, the Jaeger's foot is about the width of two floors.
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;53134096]3rd Trailer for what some claim to be the next Pacific Rim movie[/QUOTE]
Its actually the 4th Cloverfield film if im not mistaken.
[QUOTE=Joazzz;53135486]this clip made me feel like the new film needs more ground-level close-ups of the robots. if their movement has been made more weightless then you could still salvage some of their original, massive feel with clever filming, but i guess they don't care enough to do that and instead have opted for framing the scenes like they're action figure commercials.[/QUOTE]
Really, the lack of weight in the animation IS the biggest problem. Clever framing does part of the job for you, but if it doesn't move like a huge, heavy machine, then it's not going to look like a huge, heavy machine. Take this scene in the original:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74-dYu0CqFA[/media]
Some of it uses low angles to emphasize the scale, but it's also in how Gypsy is animated.
1:20 - Gypsy is thrown a huge distance, and the ludicrous weight/momentum forces her to drag for hundreds of feet, using railway boxcars to stop and show relative scale.
2:03 - Gypsy launches into a huge jump, but visibly uses huge rocket boosters to get up into the air.
2:12 to 2:20 - Gypsy only lands two slow, methodical punches.
2:22 to 2:30 - Arm mechanism is physically locked in place by some braking mechanism, then a rocket is used to give the punch enough force to do serious damage.
And just again and again in the original film, you see consideration for the physics behind all this. Massive machines and even the Kaiju themselves CAN'T move as fluidly as we do because of the obscene amount of weight and momentum in everything they do. This sequel really feels like it was designed by people who said the slow, heavy, methodical fights in the first film just weren't exciting enough.
[QUOTE=Scot;53134628]you guys are such sticks in the mud lol[/QUOTE]
When three trailers in, we're seeing things that just don't look like they respect the original at all, it's really hard to defend them.
Like, I get giving it the benefit of the doubt. But when the main person behind the film is gone, and the film goes against all that the original tried to get right, of course people are going to fucking get upset.
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