Lady freaks out over Veteran bringing in a"PTSD" service dog to a restaurant. - General

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Aren't service dogs trained to not to go potty unless they're given permission to? Why is she freaking out over the service dog if she doesn't have to worry about him shitting on the floor?

Wow, how truly embarrassing for her. She must've been having a bad day, because you do not just flip out like that over a bloody dog doing it's job.

if its nasty to you, leave the restaurant cunt. nobody's forcing you to stay [editline]19th September 2017[/editline] i really want to see a video of the escalation up to this point too

She's right about one thing, it is disgusting to have an animal in a public restaurant, she should have been kicked out by employees as soon as she began screeching like a bitch.

"There should be a [B]separate section[/B] for people with animals!" Oh how far we've come.

I bet she had some kind of nervous breakdown. His service dog was a HUGE great dane. I could understand someone with a horrible fear of dogs could freak the fuck out in a situation they didn't anticipate being in. She's still depraved though, get your phobia under control.

Am I an asshole for questioning the concept of "PTSD dog"?

[QUOTE=Aman;52695716]Am I an asshole for questioning the concept of "PTSD dog"?[/QUOTE] Same concept as therapy horses, or people who use animal contact to deal with other forms of mental issues. It's pretty common with anxiety/stress related things, and autism as well has been showing positive results with animal therapy.

[QUOTE=Aman;52695716]Am I an asshole for questioning the concept of "PTSD dog"?[/QUOTE] PTSD dogs are a real thing. They're also trained for multiple real situations too, like recognizing when a person is having a nightmare (which are often related to PTSD) and wake them up.

[QUOTE=Aman;52695716]Am I an asshole for questioning the concept of "PTSD dog"?[/QUOTE] Not necessarily but you don't understand how bad PTSD can be, and just how helpful a dog can be in easing the stress.

Are disability dogs not seen as an acceptable thing there?

[QUOTE=Aman;52695716]Am I an asshole for questioning the concept of "PTSD dog"?[/QUOTE] I never got the concept of therapy animals myself, but only because I personally couldn't see how the comfort of a dog could help [I]me[/I] deal with trauma or stress, at least not anymore than my normal pets could. But I still think it's absolutely amazing that they do indeed work and can be trained to do things like waking up a PTSD sufferer from a nightmare. Melts my hearts actually, dogs really are mans best friend.

[QUOTE=Karmah;52695760]Are disability dogs not seen as an acceptable thing there?[/QUOTE] No, they are, we get them in my store and on the busses all the time and most people understand their position and respect it, I don't know why this lady is freaking out so much, I wish we had a little more context.

Service dogs are task trained. For someone who suffers from PTSD, they can provide Deep Pressure Therapy (DPT), a visual block if their handler has a nervous breakdown in public, can keep someone with self-harming ticks from hurting themselves by pawing at the arm or hand that does it, alerting someone else nearby for assistance, or retrieving things like medication or water when the handler is unable to do so. They fall under the umbrella of "Psychiatric Service Dogs" along with dogs that provide assistance for individuals with OCD, anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, bpd, and suicidal tendencies. As long as a dog is trained to perform specific tasks and is public access trained, they don't need any sort of "certification" be a service dog. However, a business can ask a handler to leave if they're not 100% in control of the dog. Meaning if the dog is barking, using the bathroom indoors, acting aggressive, etc. But if it's behaving, is out of the way, and is on the floor, then they're allowed to remain. The only places that dogs aren't allowed are places where it could be a health hazard (like in a restaurant's [I]kitchen[/I] or an ICU in a hospital) or where the presence of the dog could become a disturbance, like at a zoo or other animal-care facility where the other animals may react to it. ANYWAY. I've researched them a lot because I wanted to get one at one point and I still might some day but service dogs are great. [editline]18th September 2017[/editline] To note: Psychiatric service dogs (or any service dogs) are different from Emotional Support Animals which are [I]not[/I] task trained but just provide comfort by simply being a pet. ESA's are also not allowed in public spaces and can only be allowed on flights or in housing accommodations with notes from a doctor, therapist, or psychiatrist. Gotta know the difference.

[QUOTE=Pascall;52695770]-snip-[/QUOTE] In short, they're the goodest of boys and girls. They help in a variety of mental and stress disorders by providing in a sense something being there for them. Plus dogs are smart and they love you unconditionally, they know when you're feeling bad.

If that guy has a dog accompanying him around then by law he is allowed to do so. The crazy lady can have any opinion she wants, but her argument isn't going to change the fact that he's still going to have that dog with him. She had to leave or suck it up and stop complaining about it. [editline]19th September 2017[/editline] Opinions are like assholes

Going apeshit over a dog and then claiming it's her opinion... Only to rage even more. Wow :v:

[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;52695765]I never got the concept of therapy animals myself, but only because I personally couldn't see how the comfort of a dog could help [I]me[/I] deal with trauma or stress, at least not anymore than my normal pets could. But I still think it's absolutely amazing that they do indeed work and can be trained to do things like waking up a PTSD sufferer from a nightmare. Melts my hearts actually, dogs really are mans best friend.[/QUOTE] I don't know about PTSD specifically, but I have a friend with epilepsy, and her service dog can recognize signs of an incoming seizure quicker than she can. that dog is invaluable to her.

I really want to know what the owner of the dog was thinking about the entire situation.

"He fought for our country, you know" :v:

You have to wonder. What would make a person wake up in the morning, go to a restaurant and scream at an innocent person and their dog like it's some sort of capital offense to have helper dogs? What sort of psychological makeup makes your first response to dogs inside buildings be yelling incoherently? What is with people not trying to FIGURE OUT the WHY, instead of ASSUMING that the WHY is because of what THEY think it is? Was this angry person not taught deductive reasoning?

[QUOTE=Pascall;52695770]Service dogs are task trained. For someone who suffers from PTSD, they can provide Deep Pressure Therapy (DPT), a visual block if their handler has a nervous breakdown in public, can keep someone with self-harming ticks from hurting themselves by pawing at the arm or hand that does it, alerting someone else nearby for assistance, or retrieving things like medication or water when the handler is unable to do so. They fall under the umbrella of "Psychiatric Service Dogs" along with dogs that provide assistance for individuals with OCD, anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, bpd, and suicidal tendencies. [/QUOTE] Truly the goodest of good boys

[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;52695633]Wow, how truly embarrassing for her. She must've been having a bad day, because you do not just flip out like that over a bloody dog doing it's job.[/QUOTE] Ha no. She's obviously a over sensitive bitch who's done this before.

The YouTube comment section is cancer.

Not super relevant but I don't where else I'd get to share this. I used to have a regular customer with a service dog. He struck an uncanny similarity to [url=https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/1/13/AlexArmstrong.png/revision/latest?cb=20151107124339]anime strongmen[/url], always wore camo, and carried his tiny service dog under his arm everywhere he went. Nicest guy, and yea some customers get confused by it. But at the same time I've seen too many people that get mad that you can't train an animal by just yelling instructions at it. I guess if you can't figure out why that doesn't work you'd have a hard time understanding that some dogs have jobs.

[QUOTE=DMGaina;52696245]"He fought for our country, you know" :v:[/QUOTE] "MAH HUSBANDS DAEEEEEEEEED"

Why put "PTSD" in quotes? PTSD dogs are a real thing.

[QUOTE=Trekintosh;52697219]Why put "PTSD" in quotes? PTSD dogs are a real thing.[/QUOTE] If a mod wants to remove the quotation marks please do. I had never heard of the concept before but I do think it is legitimate. I only put it in quotes because I didn't know it was an actual designation. Had nothing against the service dog either way before that point was made. I figure a guy with PTSD would be in actual need over a therapeutic dog. Just didn't realize they have more specialized training.

Here's a good little peek at some things that a PSD can do for their handler: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geBDDWGTkMI[/media] PSD's are a good example of why people shouldn't police other people who have service dogs, even if they don't physically look handicapped or disabled. The only real reason people should be singled out is if a service dog is misbehaving in a public establishment, and really, that should be reserved for the business/property owner to handle. But anyway. If you ever see a service dog in public, just know that as long as they're behaving, they're usually performing an invaluable service to their owner. They're great.