• Dunkey tells it how it is
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[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/ymwnfh.mp4[/vid] PS: Did they really ban people for saying that word?
In the end people should stop giving shits about words that isn't being directly targeted at someone.
Reminds me of what Ian said in his CC on Tana. Either all of it is okay. Or none of it is okay. [video]https://youtu.be/N8vaJaFCFYA?t=427[/video] 7:56
Using slurs only makes actual bigots think their views are acceptable while alienating the people that the slur usually targets but I mean hey if it was funny in middle school it must still be funny when you're nearly 30 right
[QUOTE=Rubs10;52228418]Using slurs only makes actual bigots think their views are acceptable while alienating the people that the slur usually targets[/QUOTE] not really though? It's not said in a harmful way and I doubt many gays get offended by it, I certainly don't. it all depends on context and who's saying it.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;52228348] PS: Did they really ban people for saying that word?[/QUOTE] I wasn't able to find a case with a basic search [editline]15th May 2017[/editline] Racial Slurs give your ass the hammer though Destiny got one a few months ago apparently for that reason
[QUOTE=Naught;52228424]not really though? It's not said in a harmful way and I doubt many gays get offended by it, I certainly don't. it all depends on context and who's saying it.[/QUOTE] Imagine you're an actual racist and you hear someone use the word nigger and make the same tired black joke they heard in school, you're probably going to think being a racist is ok around those people But if you want to say vaguely racist things and advertise to other people you're ok with them doing it don't let me stop you
[QUOTE=redBadger;52228382]In the end people should stop giving shits about words that isn't being directly targeted at someone.[/QUOTE] So if I say nigger but I don't mean to target black people, its okay? I grew up saying the word faggot so at first when I was told that I shouldn't say it, I thought it was kinda stupid because obviously I never meant it to offend gay people. But it is a word that puts gay people under a negative light and some people have been harmed by it. Sure sticks and stones yada yada but I've meet people who have been physically assaulted due to their sexual preference and were then called a faggot at the end of their assault. I can see why they don't approve of this word, we think its okay because we grew up with it but for many people, its a word of hatred and sometimes associated with violence targeted at them.
[QUOTE=BLOB Fish Dude;52228442]So if I say nigger but I don't mean to target black people, its okay?[/QUOTE] I mean you just said it and I think it's completely fine. Context matters.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;52228438]Imagine you're an actual racist and you hear someone use the word nigger and make the same tired black joke they heard in school, you're probably going to think being a racist is ok around those people But if you want to say vaguely racist things and advertise to other people you're ok with them doing it don't let me stop you[/QUOTE] While using a word like that is perhaps mistasteful to some people, that's what it is at most. It's not targeted at anyone, it's not a statement, it's a trivial out-burst of word things. If you don't like it, that's alright, but do enough people really get offended by that stuff that it's worth Twitch's time and effort to censor it? (Assuming it's Twitch in this case? The general point still applies) [editline]14th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=RautaPalli;52228455]I mean you just said it and I think it's completely fine. Context matters.[/QUOTE] Dang it, why'd ya quote the n-word? Now people can read it twice.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;52228418]Using slurs only makes actual bigots think their views are acceptable while alienating the people that the slur usually targets but I mean hey if it was funny in middle school it must still be funny when you're nearly 30 right[/QUOTE] I'm gay and idk I think you're being a bit of a fag about it [QUOTE=Rubs10;52228438]Imagine you're an actual racist and you hear someone use the word nigger and make the same tired black joke they heard in school, you're probably going to think being a racist is ok around those people But if you want to say vaguely racist things and advertise to other people you're ok with them doing it don't let me stop you[/QUOTE] I forgot that "Faggot" was a racist term. Where does racism come into this? Also, you openly go and say "Nigger" while complaining about openly saying it
[QUOTE=Rubs10;52228418]Using slurs only makes actual bigots think their views are acceptable while alienating the people that the slur usually targets but I mean hey if it was funny in middle school it must still be funny when you're nearly 30 right[/QUOTE] I know plenty of gay people who frequently call others faggots. The word only has meaning when people assign it power.
[QUOTE=RautaPalli;52228455]I mean you just said it and I think it's completely fine. Context matters.[/QUOTE] If dunkey said niggers instead of faggots in the video above, would that be appropriate?
[QUOTE=J!NX;52228466] I forgot that "Faggot" was a racist term. Where does racism come into this? Also, you openly go and say "Nigger" while complaining about openly saying it[/QUOTE] I mean it's obviously an example but if you can't see that I can see why you still defend the use of slurs [QUOTE=DinoJesus;52228468]I know plenty of gay people who frequently call others faggots. The word only has meaning when people assign it power.[/QUOTE] Ye like guys assign it power when they gang up on a gay guy in the street and beat him while calling him a faggot, something that still happens in the US
[QUOTE=Rubs10;52228418]Using slurs only makes actual bigots think their views are acceptable while alienating the people that the slur usually targets but I mean hey if it was funny in middle school it must still be funny when you're nearly 30 right[/QUOTE] Stopping people from using slurs casually for fun only gives those words the power you should want them so desperately to not have if nobody says nigger then saying nigger is shocking, if all my friends casually call each other my nigger or my nigga or indeed faggot then the word loses all power, and even it's original bigoted meaning I'd go in to more detail but it seems like you're gonna be doing that thing where you treat everyone who disagrees with you like they're a manchild or a bigot so that's 𝓬𝓸𝓸𝓵 𝓶𝔂 𝓷𝓲𝓰𝓰𝓪
[QUOTE=BLOB Fish Dude;52228469]If dunkey said niggers instead of faggots in the video above, would that be appropriate?[/QUOTE] Appropriate isn't really the right word for it but there wouldn't be much difference, imo, no.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;52228438]Imagine you're an actual racist and you hear someone use the word nigger and make the same tired black joke they heard in school, you're probably going to think being a racist is ok around those people But if you want to say vaguely racist things and advertise to other people you're ok with them doing it don't let me stop you[/QUOTE] as I said, it depends on context. If you're just a dude going around making jokes at the expense of black people, or shit like that, yea its not good. But if you're just playing around, its perfectly okay. I call people tons of names but I have never once attracted or made friends with an actual racist, none of them have talked like that around me, etc. It isn't some fucking black and white issue. I'm gay and I really don't mind when people say faggot normally, I say it all the time, it doesn't matter. What matters is when someone says it as an actual slur, calling someone a dirty fucking faggot piece of shit isn't playing around. Same if some white dude goes and calls someone a nigger, someone who isn't his friend. Context.
he's right, what kind of fag votes for sonic adventures 2 over mario party
[QUOTE=Rubs10;52228471]I mean it's obviously an example but if you can't see that I can see why you still defend the use of slurs[/QUOTE] Well, do you feel bad about using the word in your original post? Cause you shouldn't, context matters. Which is the point. You weren't calling anyone nigger, using it as an insult or really anything.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;52228472]Stopping people from using slurs casually for fun only gives those words the power you should want them so desperately to not have if nobody says nigger then saying nigger is shocking, if all my friends casually call each other my nigger or my nigga or indeed faggot then the word loses all power, and even it's original bigoted meaning I'd go in to more detail but it seems like you're gonna be doing that thing where you treat everyone who disagrees with you like they're a manchild or a bigot so that's 𝓬𝓸𝓸𝓵 𝓶𝔂 𝓷𝓲𝓰𝓰𝓪[/QUOTE] Nah see history even proves this wrong. Queer used to be a slur, people stopped saying it entirely, which caused the context to disappear, which allowed today's LGBT youth to reclaim it
[QUOTE=BLOB Fish Dude;52228469]If dunkey said niggers instead of faggots in the video above, would that be appropriate?[/QUOTE] considering you have people like idubbz calling people niggerfaggots and shit like that all the time, yea I don't think its a big deal. And you can bet your ass that not many black people would be offended by that, its just fucking white guilt where people think it empowers racism when it really doesn't. No racist would go and think 'oh its okay because some dude said it in a joking manner'
It's also worth pointing out that Dunkey is besties with a gay guy, Sky Williams, who doesn't give a shit and loves him I know gay people aren't a hivemind so not every gay person will have the same opinion as sky but the opposite is just as true, not every gay person cares if you call yourself or your friends faggots because not all of us minorities are pussies [editline]14th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Rubs10;52228496]Nah see history even proves this wrong. Queer used to be a slur, people stopped saying it entirely, which caused the context to disappear, which allowed today's LGBT youth to reclaim it[/QUOTE] Since when did people stop saying queer? I grew up hearing people use the term queer as a derogatory phrase
[QUOTE=Rubs10;52228471] Ye like guys assign it power when they gang up on a gay guy in the street and beat him while calling him a faggot, something that still happens in the US[/QUOTE] What does that have to do with the word? Why are you pointing out it happens in the US? Seems like you're pushing some separate problems into the discussion. Insults dont cause that shit to happen. Not saying them wont stop it and it doesn't make it less likely for it to happen. Why do I need to explain this.
[QUOTE=Naught;52228485]as I said, it depends on context. If you're just a dude going around making jokes at the expense of black people, or shit like that, yea its not good. But if you're just playing around, its perfectly okay. I call people tons of names but I have never once attracted or made friends with an actual racist, none of them have talked like that around me, etc. It isn't some fucking black and white issue. I'm gay and I really don't mind when people say faggot normally, I say it all the time, it doesn't matter. What matters is when someone says it as an actual slur, calling someone a dirty fucking faggot piece of shit isn't playing around. Same if some white dude goes and calls someone a nigger, someone who isn't his friend. Context.[/QUOTE] Sure dude but like you should really reread what I said. You can use a slur and not mean anything by it personally, but when you're using it publicly, and the internet is public, you're only pushing away a community while reenforcing people's beliefs about that same community I mean after the whole JonTron thingo I'm not entirely convinced that a random videogame comedian isn't a bigot just because he's a popular legit funny person [QUOTE=Naught;52228497]No racist would go and think 'oh its okay because some dude said it in a joking manner'[/QUOTE] Most racists (until the Trump election and their beliefs were validated) waited until they realized they were among like-minded people to talk because they were scared of being publicly shunned
I can see the headlines in the Wall Street Journal now, "African American Twitch Streamer and YouTube Celebrity, Dunkey, Goes On A Homophobic Rant." [sp]I know he's not actually black, I'm just poking fun at how it's a reoccurring joke and that when news sites cover YouTube they don't generally have enough integrity to do proper research.[/sp]
[QUOTE=BrandoJack;52228515]I can see the headlines in the Wall Street Journal now, "African American Twitch Streamer and YouTube Celebrity, Dunkey, Goes On A Homophobic Rant." [sp]I know he's not actually black, I'm just poking fun at how it's a reoccurring joke and that when news sites cover YouTube they don't generally have enough integrity to do proper research.[/sp][/QUOTE] if you actually watched bunkleys video you would know he is of Puerto Rican descent
[QUOTE=Rubs10;52228513]Sure dude but like you should really reread what I said. You can use a slur and not mean anything by it personally, but when you're using it publicly, and the internet is public, you're only pushing away a community while reenforcing people's beliefs about that same community I mean after the whole JonTron thingo I'm not entirely convinced that a random videogame comedian isn't a bigot just because he's a popular legit funny person[/QUOTE] Wait are you seriously trying to imply that you actually think [I]dunkey[/I] is a bigot? [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgmNHTUUUAA19AJ.jpg[/t] dunkey. [t]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cl72woucC7g/maxresdefault.jpg[/t] [I]dunkey.[/I] [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNxEb-YUwAAPR2v.jpg[/t] This is our guy? You can see the hatred in his eyes.
Does this mean that Dunkey will do a video over Sonic Adventure 2 next? :v:
[QUOTE=Rubs10;52228418]Using slurs only makes actual bigots think their views are acceptable while alienating the people that the slur usually targets but I mean hey if it was funny in middle school it must still be funny when you're nearly 30 right[/QUOTE] That's fucking retarded.
I must admit I do hate words like "faggot" or "retarded" being used but there's a time to fight your battles and this is not one of those times.
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