uh
calling krugman a partisan hack for stating that high paying working class manufacturing jobs won't come back is pretty dumb.
krugman's point on the matter is that as a result of technological development and automation, the old jobs working in steel mills, car manufacturers, etc, are changing. They're no longer high wage hallmarks for the working class, they're increasingly going to people with bachelors and other advanced degrees as the nature of engineering has completely changed since the fuckin 50s.
i'm not saying that bernie's plan is bad. but for this presenter to dismiss a forefront economist without even tackling his argument is fuckin dumb. you can bring back those jobs, certainly, however you can also be damn well sure that those jobs won't be going to the working class.
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[QUOTE=BrickInHead;51447214]uh
calling krugman a partisan hack for stating that high paying working class manufacturing jobs won't come back is pretty dumb.
krugman's point on the matter is that as a result of technological development and automation, the old jobs working in steel mills, car manufacturers, etc, are changing. They're no longer high wage hallmarks for the working class, they're increasingly going to people with bachelors and other advanced degrees as the nature of engineering has completely changed since the fuckin 50s.
i'm not saying that bernie's plan is bad. but for this presenter to dismiss a forefront economist without even tackling his argument is fuckin dumb. you can bring back those jobs, certainly, however you can also be damn well sure that those jobs won't be going to the working class.[/QUOTE]
Is there any sort of program in the US so working-class citizens can bump up their skill level without being fucked over? or is it just like College education?
Because if the latter, then no wonder they're pissed off.
Being broke and unable to afford getting the necessary education/skill-training so they can find a well-paying job again.
yes, but they cost money. Not as much as a traditional bachelors, but serious money that someone out of a job won't be able to afford, and one who does have a job will have a difficult time balancing with their work-life.
unfortunately around here if you don't get out the gate early for a bachelors - effectively right out of high school, before formally entering the work-force, you're kinda screwed. There are people who manage to do it, but they're few and far between. for most, once you start work you don't stop, which can make training outside of work difficult to pursue.
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[QUOTE=Van-man;51450035]Is there any sort of program in the US so working-class citizens can bump up their skill level without being fucked over? or is it just like College education?
Because if the latter, then no wonder they're pissed off.
Being broke and unable to afford getting the necessary education/skill-training so they can find a well-paying job again.[/QUOTE]
Vocational schools and union apprenticeships.
Other than those, no. The former trains you in various fields like carpentry, electrical, plumbing, automotive repair, and various human services. It's primarily catered towards High School students in their junior and senior years. Post-secondary adults are able to get into some courses I think, but it's rare and mostly people who are in their early twenties.
Union apprenticeships are hard to get, mostly construction unions, with hundreds of people lined up days beforehand just to apply.
Vocational education is fucking expensive, as much as one semester of community college although that is my own immediate area. It was $3000 for one year in a two year program, and one semester at my local college is $2,212 for 15 credits. The price varies, and the vocational schools are controlled by state counties with each country having their own district.
It's a fragmented and frustrating system, but it works since I got a job in my second and last year of vocational right after I graduated HS and earned back the $3,000 I paid within little time. I started at $12/hr and was soon bumped up to 13/hr. Others started off making a little more at 15/hr and that was before getting a official apprenticeship under a private contractor.
Edit: I should mention that the quality of education varies and you get what you can take from it. Some teachers are terrible, some programs lack funding and resources, some programs don't do well and get dropped. There used to be a computer science program in my district to train students in entry level information technology, web development, programming, etc but I don't see it listed as a program anymore so it probably bombed.
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