I wish I could have gotten into korra but after avatar, I couldn't. It feels so sub par. but I never got passed the first book :v
[QUOTE=fudge blood;45081877]I wish I could have gotten into korra but after avatar, I couldn't. It feels so sub par. but I never got passed the first book :v[/QUOTE]
Well see. The first book is pretty bad. Everything was so clustered. Korra is kind of stupid and arrogant. A handful of episodes shoehorned a love triangle to satisfy their shipping fanbase. They didn't really resolve the main conflict; they just kind of ignored it at the end.
I mean, yeah the first episodes were really good but after that it was kind of eh.
Second book is significantly better. I still wouldn't put as high as the original Avatar but hey, it's a different thing right now. Korra is still kind of stupid and arrogant in this season though.
But it does have Varrick, who is awesome.
has the word book in title
popularity dropping vertiginously
[QUOTE=fudge blood;45081877]I wish I could have gotten into korra but after avatar, I couldn't. It feels so sub par. but I never got passed the first book :v[/QUOTE]
IMO episodes 7 and 8 of Book II are worth a watch. I'm not a big fan of Korra, but episodes 7 and 8 temporarily leave Korra behind and instead depict the beginning of the avatar cycle, which is pretty interesting.
[QUOTE=godfatherk;45082101]has the word book in title
popularity dropping vertiginously[/QUOTE]
that's a dumb thing to say
[QUOTE=shadowray7;45081999]Well see. The first book is pretty bad. Everything was so clustered. Korra is kind of stupid and arrogant. A handful of episodes shoehorned a love triangle to satisfy their shipping fanbase. They didn't really resolve the main conflict; they just kind of ignored it at the end.
I mean, yeah the first episodes were really good but after that it was kind of eh.
Second book is significantly better. I still wouldn't put as high as the original Avatar but hey, it's a different thing right now. Korra is still kind of stupid and arrogant in this season though.
But it does have Varrick, who is awesome.[/QUOTE]
I actually found the first book better than the second, in part because the theme was significantly better. Non-benders feeling pushed back into second class status by benders and not liking it. Overall the premise was much better than - oh my uncle is a powertripping madman.
I always say the problem with Korra was that it's people who are accostumed to doing 20+ episode seasons instead being limited to 12-13 episodes.
The original show had a lot of filler, in that they were episodes that didn't move the plot at all but they developed the characters further in a way that when the plot did move further, things felt more complete. Case in point, everyone's favorite episode- Tales of Ba Sing Se- could be considered filler as it did not move the plot forward at all, yet it's filled with highly important character moments.
Another problem was that the order for three more seasons came very late in Book 1's development. That's why when Book 2 start, many fans felt like some of the characters had backtracked. Also, the animation in those first episodes was done by a studio that's far inferior than the studio who did the animation for the other episodes, and that influenced a little on the final outcome.
Still, I think that Book 3 will be the best, because Book 2 was kinda building a base for the other books. Now with that gone, maybe we'll finally get going.
Here are my notes and some conjecture:
0:16 - The cities seem to be made of metal. Possibly a metalbender's city?
0:20 - Airbender who wears either earthbender's clothing or Kyoshi Warrior's clothing. Not Tenzin, too tall to be Tenzin's kids. Where did this airbender come from?
0:26 - Air benders or air accolytes?
0:33 - Somewhat elderly guy with black hair and beard. Possibly earthbender.
0:36 - Metalbending police arresting a guy/stopping a guy from killing himself in green. First thought was Mako but no evidence for this.
0:38 - Tenzin's muggle brother Bumi airbending...
0:41 - Another 'eye focus' person. I assume they're some sort of firebending sect.
0:45 - What looks like the guy from 0:33 in a wooden cell. Confirms belief that person is an earthbender.
0:47 - Waterbending woman in rags in a metal cell who is bending.
0:48 - Korra's dad, freaky twins and what appears to be an elderly Zuko running through the snow.
0:49 - Boy in green airbending. Looks like an earthbender building.
0:51 - Man in green performs earthbending that appears to be combined with firebending.
0:54 - Red dragon flying through the air while an elderly man in red with white hair rides it. Possibly Zuko.
0:57 - Lin sparing.
0:58 - Boy airbending.
0:59 - What looks like a younger Lin driving an antiquated Satomobile.
1:04 - Guy from 0:33 airbending.
1:10 - Jinora in spirit form observing a cavern that reminds me of the Dai Li tunnels in Ba Sing Se.
1:13 - Woman in royal clothing on a throne. Possibly the Earth Queen?
1:19 - Old Wrinkly Zuko.
1:21 - What I suspect is a Dai Li agent grabbing Jinora or Ikki.
1:24 - Kid in green airbending.
The rest is a few cool fight scenes with people previously mentioned in them.
I'm guess that with free passage of the spirits, people are now able to gain bending powers they previously lacked. This would explain people being able to bend multiple things along with new airbenders.
[QUOTE=fudge blood;45081877]I wish I could have gotten into korra but after avatar, I couldn't. It feels so sub par. but I never got passed the first book :v[/QUOTE]
You're missing out. It's not as good as the first one but it's still good
So now that the spirit world is combined with the non-spirit world, does this mean Iroh cheated death and is back?
[QUOTE=Sojourner;45082225]IMO episodes 7 and 8 of Book II are worth a watch. I'm not a big fan of Korra, but episodes 7 and 8 temporarily leave Korra behind and instead depict the beginning of the avatar cycle, which is pretty interesting.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was stupid. [sp]"The avatar was created because of merging with a PURE GOOD spirit to defeat a PURE EVIL spirit and stop him from DESTROYING THE WORLD"[/sp]
Avatar usually isn't that simple and boring from a thematic standpoint.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;45083801]I thought it was stupid. [sp]"The avatar was created because of merging with a PURE GOOD spirit to defeat a PURE EVIL spirit and stop him from DESTROYING THE WORLD"[/sp]
Avatar usually isn't that simple and boring from a thematic standpoint.[/QUOTE]
I haven't seen any of Korra but one of Legend of Aang's main themes was that shit wasn't black/white good/evil that was a major point of [sp]Zuko's character even existing.(This isn't really a spoiler, but sorta?)[/sp]
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;45084148][sp]Once you go deep enough, there are no shades of grey anymore. The conflict between Raava and Vaatu is primordial.
I'll give it a free pass. When two primeval forces clash, I'd say black and white morals are allowed.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]A lot of the themes in the original were the suggesting the writers felt there are no black and white morals, they never really went too deep into a lot of stuff but it was Zuko's character mainly, I think a lot of that was watered down so they could have a children's show villain (in the form of the Fire Lord and later Azula) but you could still tell the idea was there. The Fire Nation's people weren't violent warmongerers: most of them were just normal people, maybe with less freedom than most, but all in all normal.[/sp]
People have been telling me that Korra is a lot less mature than Aang in the way it handles its characters and themes, I'm only speculating on what people have told me though, I'll check it out for myself at some point.
I wish I'd watched book 2, I saw book 1 but when book 2 came around I got busy and didn't see the first one and it kinda cascaded from there.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;45083884]I haven't seen any of Korra but one of Legend of Aang's main themes was that shit wasn't black/white good/evil that was a major point of [sp]Zuko's character even existing.(This isn't really a spoiler, but sorta?)[/sp][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rossy167;45084248][sp]A lot of the themes in the original were the suggesting the writers felt there are no black and white morals, they never really went too deep into a lot of stuff but it was Zuko's character mainly, I think a lot of that was watered down so they could have a children's show villain (in the form of the Fire Lord and later Azula) but you could still tell the idea was there. The Fire Nation's people weren't violent warmongerers: most of them were just normal people, maybe with less freedom than most, but all in all normal.[/sp]
People have been telling me that Korra is a lot less mature than Aang in the way it handles its characters and themes, I'm only speculating on what people have told me though, I'll check it out for myself at some point.[/QUOTE]
The ending to Last Airbender already shat all over this, though.
Episodes 3-6 leaked onto the internet a few days ago [sp]en español[/sp]
Those four episodes were much better than anything I've seen in the 1st or 2nd season. I didn't see any love crap or tears that Korra is infamous for, and there's a lot of time given to other interesting characters. It's gonna be a fun ride once it arrives.
as soon as this is on netflix I'm going to power watch the original and then watch the hell out of this
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the original has some of the greatest story telling I've seen in a childrens cartoon.
It's such a lush and incredibly thought out world.
Hopefully this doesn't become The 'Korra Gets Her Arse Kicked' Power Hour like the last 2 books.
ive watched the last airbender about 6 times; its my favorite show of all time
legend of korra, however, i havent seen a single second of
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;45083801]I thought it was stupid. [sp]"The avatar was created because of merging with a PURE GOOD spirit to defeat a PURE EVIL spirit and stop him from DESTROYING THE WORLD"[/sp]
Avatar usually isn't that simple and boring from a thematic standpoint.[/QUOTE]
[sp]The Avatar was created because Raava had was too weak to defeat Vaatu, and Wan couldn't use all of his power. By fusing with Raava, he was able to gain her power and unlock his full potential. It went out of its way to show that the Avatar isn't necessarily a special person in and of them self, but a human with an ancient spirit helping them.[/sp]
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[QUOTE=shadowray7;45081999]Well see. The first book is pretty bad. Everything was so clustered. Korra is kind of stupid and arrogant. A handful of episodes shoehorned a love triangle to satisfy their shipping fanbase. They didn't really resolve the main conflict; they just kind of ignored it at the end.
I mean, yeah the first episodes were really good but after that it was kind of eh.
Second book is significantly better. I still wouldn't put as high as the original Avatar but hey, it's a different thing right now. Korra is still kind of stupid and arrogant in this season though.
But it does have Varrick, who is awesome.[/QUOTE]
Book 1 was rushed because when they were making it, they did it with the mindset of "Korra is going to be a one-off deal, not full fledged like Avatar, so let's try to fit it all here." Not a perfect excuse, but at least understandable.
The romantic subplot was forced and annoying, but at least it wasn't as bad as Book 2's, where it was quite literally on-again-off-again. Best they throw it out, and just keep it a basic character trait of Mako and Asami. And they [I]did[/I] resolve the conflict. They took care of Amon, and the whole movement faded.
Book 2 felt like it took all the character development and tossed it out the window. [sp]Unaloq is just felt like Tarlok 2.0, and the whole Civil War crap felt poorly done and barely supported. The "Dark Avatar" bit also felt really cheesy and predictable, and Book 2 had the worst deus ex machina of the whole Avatar series, with Jinora doing all that shit "just because," feeling my incredibly unsatisfied with just how the hell she could do that. "Beginnings" were the best episodes, warping everything that was already know about the avatar and the avatar cycle and explaining the what's and why's.[/sp] I just have high hopes for Book 3.
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;45087182][sp]The "Dark Avatar" bit also felt really cheesy and predictable, and Book 2 had the worst deus ex machina of the whole Avatar series, with Jinora doing all that shit "just because," feeling my incredibly unsatisfied with just how the hell she could do that.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I really liked the Dark Avatar bit, I thought it was super cool and dramatic. Then he turns into a giant. Then Jinora decided she could do all that spirit shit, and she was "the light in the darkness" (cheesy as shit), and THEN Korra just suddenly turns into a giant and has a short giant fight with Vaatu. Honestly, right up until Unaloq turned giant the end of that season was fucking AWESOME. I was loving all of it. But seriously, she just fucking turns into a giant, teleports over to Vaatu, and beats him up. Or, well, GETS beat up, until Jinora does light bullshit and suddenly turns the tide. It was REALLY stupid. Just wanted to get that out of my system.[/sp]
But I have high hopes for this season as well. Looks like they'll have a lot of cool and interesting stuff going on. I'm psyched to see an old Zuko, and Bei Fong having a bigger role will be cool too. I'm excited for this.
oohhhHH BABY
There reason why Book 2 was so bad, because Lok was never intended to have a second season, it's why the way Season 1 ended the way it did. There was no plans what so ever to have another season, it's why Season 2 literally came out of nowhere. The original series already had a storyboard for all 3 seasons. LoK was mostly fanfare to excuse for all the delays and mishaps (A important VA dying) that lead to them never doing the 4th season of the original series that had been planned, most of the ideas they did have were merged into LoK S1 as flashbacks. I think the main reason why LoK isn't as strong as the original series is because there is no strong story to tie the seasons together, they're all isolated events that have nothing to do with each other and they took a lot of liberties with the end of Season 2 that really put off a lot of fans of the original series.
[QUOTE=Silent_Death;45088972][B]There reason why Book 2 was so bad, because Lok was never intended to have a second season, it's why the way Season 1 ended the way it did[/B]. There was no plans what so ever to have another season, it's why Season 2 literally came out of nowhere. The original series already had a storyboard for all 3 seasons. LoK was mostly fanfare to excuse for all the delays and mishaps (A important VA dying) that lead to them never doing the 4th season of the original series that had been planned, most of the ideas they did have were merged into LoK S1 as flashbacks. I think the main reason why LoK isn't as strong as the original series is because there is no strong story to tie the seasons together, they're all isolated events that have nothing to do with each other and they took a lot of liberties with the end of Season 2 that really put off a lot of fans of the original series.[/QUOTE]
That's no excuse for Season 2 to suck. What it was going for wasn't too bad; how it did it, was.
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;45089353]That's no excuse for Season 2 to suck. What it was going for wasn't too bad; how it did it, was.[/QUOTE]
It's not an excuse, it's a reason.
Like if by the end of Season 1 of the original show, all character's arcs had been concluded and Aang had already mastered all three elements and the Fire Nation had been beaten and then they went and said 'there's gonna be two more seasons!'
This one actually looks better than season 2 IMO, looks like were gonna get to see some nice political intrigue sorta like book two of avatar.
[QUOTE=elowin;45085126]The ending to Last Airbender already shat all over this, though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah... I'm going to claim most of the problems from Last Airbender stem from it being on Nickelodeon so needing to be childreny.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;45101369]Yeah... I'm going to claim most of the problems from Last Airbender stem from it being on Nickelodeon so needing to be childreny.[/QUOTE]
Yeah.
It got pretty ridiculous in Legend of Korra when [sp]Tarlock was shooting ice shards at Korra[/sp] and when they sliced against her cheeks, they just made streaks that were slightly darker. I understand not showing dripping blood, but they couldn't even make the wounds red or even pinkish.
Someone made a 'What if' bad ending for Season 2 of Korra
[url]http://rvbomally.deviantart.com/art/Avatar-The-Eternal-War-460016533[/url]
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Actually, I think it also assumes Book 1 goes badly as well.
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