• Russia spy poisoning: 23 UK diplomats expelled from Moscow
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43440992
I cant fucking understand this shit. Everywere I see this and asking.... WHY RUSSIAN POISONED RUSSIAN, AND WHY RUSSIA HAVE TROUBLE WITH UK AFTER THIS Oh wait, what I forgot in polidicks
because you can't just go around using deadly nerve agent in other countries to assassinate people.
The key thing to note is that they haven't accepted responsibility for the poisoning, hence the whole diplomat thing. Theresa May essentially told Russia to confirm they were responsible but Russia refused, hence the diplomats being expelled. It's not just the action, it's the denial.
Everyday people trying to kill someone in Russia. Yesterday street cleaner cut the throat of a woman among the stream of people. And...this happens too often...
yeah? and that counters his argument against using chemical weapons on foreign soil how?
And that's a shame, no one is denying that. But releasing a nerve agent in a public place to kill an ex spy is a serious international incident. Countries have gone to war over less.
That’s sad
That wasn't the point I was getting at.
Oh no, I know that. I'm just pointing out that there is another layer of salt on the wound.
Just think of it like this, how would you feel if there was news of the British Government poisoning people in Russia? Wouldn't you feel angry about that?
Nah, whatewah. If they do that with dudes in politics, maybe I support them. Or not. This all kind of weird, I cant hate all country if this do one person.
Look ONE PERSON from the Russian government assassinated ONE GUY in the UK, that doesn't mean the whole Russian government should be held accountable. Putin can't be expected to keep track of every single international chemical weapon assassination his employees are taking part in.
well that's great russia but maybe you should have thought about that before trying to fucking kill someone along with innocent civilians on british soil something tells me this was purposely a botched assassination to sew discord. sounds like something putin would try
Maybe Putin is both Right-wing snowflake and hate people who criticized his actions in past like some American Presidents.
https://youtu.be/cfmPXIwpP6s
This back and forth is fucking fascinating and the most amazing part is I think everyone is still getting through to you more than the west has gotten through to Russia.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43446312 He said Russia did not stockpile the poison and that the Porton Down lab was only eight miles (12km) from the city. That actually is a little strange, it's probably worth an investigation to see if that is indeed where the agent came from. If it wasn't the UK government assassinating him like they say, then it's likely there is a mole within that facility who got hold of it.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43443271 Oh, cool, so now the Russian government is accusing other countries to have produced Novichok and it totally definitely most most definitely wasn't Russia.
Do you really expect the Russians to be telling the truth?
I don't really expect my own Government to tell the truth either.
Why would they be lying about the poisoning of one of their own former agents? What benefit would it possibly have for the government? Saying that "we poisoned one of our own agents with an incredibly potent nerve agent to blame the Russians for something" sounds mighty conspiratorial
The British government is certainly easier to believe than the Russian government, however.
I'm wondering; there have been some claims by our resident Russian users that Vil Mirzayanov, who relocated to the United States after his release, is somehow responsible for the poisoning, however I don't recall the Russian government ever even suggesting that the Americans were behind the attack, while they're seemingly just accusing everybody else but themselves. After all, the US is usually blamed for everything, but this hasn't been the case so far. Do you think the Russian government doesn't want to accuse the US, because Trump's ego would be hurt somehow and he could either do or say something stupid that they don't want him to? I mean this whole post is nothing but speculation and you may very well prove me wrong by just linking an article, however I just wanted to share my idea on this.
Not sure if everyone has figure do this out yet but the officer that found them was also taken to hospital in critical condition, so this was not only attack on Russian citizens but also on a member of our public services.
Yes, I believe that has already been mentioned here before, perhaps not in this thread, but definitely in the others.
It certainly wouldn't be my first choice of line of events but I would never expect the UK government to own up to losing some of it's own nerve agents either. It's probably the Russians who poisoned them of course but I find it silly and a little disconcerting when May says things like.... Well well well, looks like both articles have been edited. There was a quote in both that had words from May saying somethings that the only possible conclusion is that Russia is culpable. Those words are now nowhere to be seen, unless I''m missing it. Odd.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43414824 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-43380378 There are other articles that still have that quote.
Thanks, probably got them mixed up, these things are coming out at a crazy pace.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/16/russian-spy-poisoning-attack-novichok-chemist relevant, posted this in the other thread but didn't know how to embed it
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