wow I'm sure that has nothing to do with the copious amount of non-news being spread by right-wing media!
Canadian citizen abroad here, how has Trudeau really been doing? I haven't been keeping up. It seems like the only time he's in the news is for a minor image gaffe, which I'm surprised are even newsworthy at this point given what's going on here.
I was going to use Huffpo Canada originally since both were reporting on the same poll, but it turned out this was right center/high through and actuallly checked out better.
Not really sure what you are referring to in general though. The article itself is pretty much just stating the findings of the poll.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-post/
By and large he's not dramatically less popular than most other party leaders, and we tend to be pretty harsh on our PMs. I've found it rarely matters outside of an election year. Hell, Kathleen Wynne has a 18% approval rating and she still has a fighting chance of taking Ontario.
Can't be any worse than our president.
Ironically he has about the same approval ratings as Trump according to the most recent NBC/WSJ poll atm.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/18/politics/nbc-wsj-poll-march-18/index.html
Wow great! Well I am literally Canadian pal, and that shit newspaper is in my breakroom at work daily so I know first hand what they report on lol, and it's virtually entirely hit pieces.
Just in recent memory, they, alongside the Toronto Sun and whatever other shitty ass right wing papers, all seemingly coordinated with the 100% terrific investigative report on "Mr. Dressup"(in regards to Trudeau wearing traditional Indian apparel, something he has done many times before, during his diplomatic trip to India). It's all absolute nonsense, in the absence of any legitimate criticisms of Trudeau.
So apparently that somehow makes Trump Equal/better than Trudeau.
Pull the head out of your arse and join reality like the rest of us folk.
The bump in the President's approval came from white male, Republican and independent respondents, according to the poll, which was conducted from March 10-14.
*cough*
The ultimate Trump supporter puzzle: Is Trump doing as badly as Trudeau, or is Trudeau doing as well as Trump ?
Good article though
Trump's 43% approval rating is the lowest of his predecessors at this point in his presidency, according to NBC, lagging one point behind the previous lowest record of 44% set by President Gerald R. Ford. For presidents other than Trump, the average approval rating at 14 months into the term is 58%.
Hard to take your point seriously in any context here.
either Trump is as bad as Trudeauor Trudeau is as good as Trump.
either way I don't care but we do know you have a horse in the race
I still cant believe Trumps approval rating has improved in any capacity. What the hell is there to approve of during this shitshow? I guess the tax cuts really tickle the American Conservative enough to give him some sugar, which shows just how complicit and derelict the GOP base can be these days.
Trudeau is definitely as ineffective as Trump, though still by far a better person. Trudeau is like the cool Uncle and Trump is the abusive father.
There is no need to be rude. This is A poll that National Post didn’t even conduct and even left-Wing sources like Huffington post reported on with similar conclusions.
If anything, you have a problem with the actual pollsters, the Angus Reid institute has been used by Globalnews.ca before and listed as respectable as far as I can tell for pollsters.
Although Trump's approval ratings fucking cratered a month into his tenure while Trudeau has just now gone under 50% after almost 3 years on the job.
They're not the same bucko.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was the beginning of Russian aggression. Of coarse there is no evidence of this, and there won't be since Republicans and Trump seem not too keen on stopping Russian aggression. They are complicit with it, almost a treasonous act.
The tax plan and North Korea, which he really doesn't deserve any credit for but misinformation is rampant in this country.
Well first off this suggests I base actual performance based on consensus, which I hope people don’t actually do that.
I just find it interesting they have similar splits in the polls for approval/disapproval. Ofcourse the contexts of why people disapprove of them and their actual performance in comparison is not directly tied to their approval rating.
Can you explain what you mean by this?
Trudeau has a low approval rating because of what always happens when the opposition takes power. People who were on top become under dogs and get vocal again. Trudeau was elected on a hollow political dynasty, his good looks, a half decent political platform and incompetent opposition. Now that he's in power both the NDP and Conservatives criticize him on both sides of almost every issue. He's disliked for being naive and having done basically what the Canadian Liberals always do. Which is always worthy of criticism here.
Trump is uniquely reviled, even historically. His ratings at the moment are due to the tax cut(which give it time, the damage will trickle down) and a stance on Korea that encourages his base and frightens the world at large. And due to complete fabrications about the Iran deal his base has bought his stance to back out of it. Essentially ensuring they too will develop nukes.
I've noticed the key phrase when tudd gets caught with his pants down, is when he says "I just find it interesting". Majority of the time it's to the effect of making other leaders equal or lesser to Trump. He's trying to compare American politics with Canadian, which by and large majority of Canadians I've known will say it's like comparing apples to oranges when you get past democracy.
Basically the idea that I see the approval ratings of two different people, especially in two different political einviroments, as “Trump is as good as Trudeau/Trudeau is as bad as Trump” is a silly suggestion that I never made.
You can't be serious. Our government is actually functioning and not playing to the tune of foreign kleptocrats and robber barons.
I’m actually quite for the opposite.
You are completely correct that the two different political climates and countries make it not tangible to directly compare the approval ratings for relative performances.
But that is why I started that post with “ironically” because it is kind of funny in a way that they have similar splits.
I don't follow Canadian politics but presumably Trudeau isn't under investigation by whatever passes for the FBI and didn't fire his foreign secretary over Twitter.
Someone said Trudeau can't be worse than Trump to which you replied with a poll showing them tied, described by yourself as "the same". If the goal wasn't to compare them then what was your point? What's unique about Trudeaus approval rating vs Trumps?
I had a great art teacher who would ban words like interesting and neat from critiques. Because they're vapid substanceless words that add nothing at all to what you're talking about.
Eexcept Trump literally had nothing to do with the article. The only person who wanted to compare was you bringing in the CNN article. You played your hand for everyone to see. Its not anyone else's faults if they call a shit hand a shit hand.
They have the about the same approval/disapproval ratings/splits. On a surface level observation it is kind of ironic.
I mean you can keep suggesting some innuendo but I have already pointed out this premise is foolish and advise people not to seriously use approval ratings of different countries to compare leader’s performances.
I'm not suggesting anything, I'm just trying to figure out what you meant. It seems like you are saying something like what HumanAbyss said above, who made the same sort of point you are but just said it instead of beating around the bush.
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