Walt Disney World's Pirates of the Caribbean Opens with Reworked Redhead Scene
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A reworked Pirates of the Caribbean ride opens today, March 19, at Magic Kingdom Park with a new scene featuring the infamous redhead.
Guests will get to experience a newer version of the attraction's auction scene, which was first introduced last summer.
Instead of the bridal auction scene (with its creepy shades of human trafficking), this updated version of the ride now spotlights the familiar redhead as she oversees the sale of the townspeople's most prized possessions and goods. In this scene, the Redhead is now a spunky pirate named Redd.
Orlando Weekly
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Looks pretty nice. Some video as well:
https://youtu.be/1B2i98oWeHU
Never been to disneyworld, only disneyland in paris.
I still think its kind of sad to change these things just because we've come to live in the age of the pussies.
Human trafficking is a huge issue in the modern world. You can argue that they're pirates but I also don't really recall anyone making a huge uproar over the ride. I think this was Disney seeing the writing on the wall and changing the design slightly before it became a PR problem, and it still fits in with the theme. Redd herself is an already established character in the ride lore, so it's not like they pulled the character out of their ass just for feminism
Well its their property, they can do what they want with it. Still, its a tacit admission that Americans are too stupid to play pretend.
There is also quite literally a nude painting of this character in Disneyland:
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Ido about you, but a female pirate carrying a huge musket on her hip is bad ass.
Human trafficking is a thing. Purging a fictitious depiction of it from a make believe ride makes the real practice neither more nor less prevalent. If anything it brings attention to a real problem. Pretending things don't exist because you might offend someone is not something to applaud.
Wat kind of kid actually thinks about the ruthlessness of pirating when they are little? Majority of kids think pirating is just a bunch of sailors plundering treasure in the Caribbean. No one thinks getting scurvy, liver disease, sleeping in your own piss, or killing people as ruthlessly as possible for cheap coin.
This is as asinine as saying taking down confederate monuments will somehow gate kids from learning the actual events that happened.
It isn't about gating the knowledge, it is about not glorifying something that shouldn't be glorified. Statues are used to commemorate things, why should we commemorate the side that was lost, was pro slavery, etc?
Similarly I don't see why you care so much that this scene was removed, it doesn't harm anything and it is Disney's choice to remove something that normalized human trafficking? They're a massive corporation who constantly needs to cover their ass on this sort of stuff, this is just business as usual.
Speak for yourself. I used to read children's history books that directly contradict what you're saying, too.
It's still brutal, just in a different way. It's also more inclusive (woo buzzwords) in that this is the first time they've put a female pirate front and center in any of the pirates media, other than a few Redd comics that nobody read. I'm not the kind of person to criticize things for being exclusive or not having *gender* or *specific race* characters, but it's nice that girls can have a character to emulate since almost all of the pirates merch is directed at young boys. This opens up the avenue for disney to make more female-aimed Pirates merch. It retains the basic theme of piracy and their brutality, but that's never what the Disney ride was about, and this isn't the first time it's been changed to have the themes be more diluted either
normally i would hate parks changing their rides to appease snowflakes' sensitive feelings, but i can understand this one. disney is a family place and its a bit out of place to have something as grim as human trafficking.
here's a better picture of the new animatronic
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The majority of children media about pirates isn't about the brutal truth of the matter. Its an interesting point of history, but majority of kids don't see pirates as their real life counterparts. Same goes with majority of historical figures/cultures kinda like knights Vikings. Remember this is a kids ride in Disney world, not a great place for historical accuracy to begin with.
Disney has never been about historical accuracy, or even consistency when it comes to historical environs
I think the rework is really cool.
The old auction scene kinda stuck out on the old ride anyway, and having something new that isn't such a drastic change to a classic ride is fun too. It changes things up a bit without upsetting (most of) the people who feel strongly about keep old rides as-is.
i can't believe they're teaching kids improper gun handling now, when will disney learn
Disney pretty much neuters old fairy tales and make them a lot more commercial.
Which I mean, how many people do you know who legitimately have a deep interest in old fairy tales. The ones with bad endings.
While I personally do miss the old scene, mostly due to nostalgic reasons, the new scene along with the new Redhead animatronic is great.
I think the main reason some people are currently against the new scene is due to the fact that the original ride had Walt's involvement, despite Walt himself not liking the scene.
I wish WDI could've done more with the scene honestly. How about instead of being laid back and holding up the bottle, she fires her gun across the way and hits the plate to keep everyone in their place? That would've been bad ass instead of saying "Shut up, here's some rum". They already have the ricochet effect across the way (at :38 in the OP's video) so it could've been repurposed to react to her instead.
It's not so much an issue with replacing an original scene, it's more being a lesser replacement.
I think it's fine that they're getting rid of the old one. I don't want to think about slavery when i'm at Disney World.
Disneyland is literally a theme park
This is the last place that is expected to be historically accurate. It's not a museum.
As always, the people getting the most offended at this are the "I hate people who get easily offended" crowd. Pathetic.
I think it's proof that they CAN play pretend, because we can change something "innocuous" like human traficking into "lol jk she's a bad pirate bitch selling phat lewtz now" and STILL have it be relevant to the ride's lore?
It is fascinating looking back at the reaction when they removed the pirates chasing women scene in 1997, and how similar it is to now:
http://articles.latimes.com/1997-01-04/news/mn-15365_1_disneyland-spokesman
In hindsight if people REALLY wanted to know about pirates and human trafficking, I'd go to a museum or bug my professor about it. I'm in Disney, I don't want to know the price for a redhead.
Also someone said there was a comic on the pirate in question?
Not gonna lie, when I was on this ride back in December, I was pretty surprised to see this scene as an adult. I wasn't offended (as some posters put it) but just kind of surprised the topic of human trafficking was on a Disney ride.
Seeing the change, I can't wait to see the new design in person.
That and Disney has "mostly" family-friendly movies based on the franchise, so it makes sense that they'd re-tune the ride to match what their customers enjoy.
my bad, i thought they made a comic about her but i was mistaken.
I rode the ride a million times as a kid and don't even really remember actually noticing the auction bit. I kinda' like the change though, honestly it's a bit more interesting IMO, and kinda' more 'fun' to boot.
I honestly remember the chasing women thing more clearly.
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