Body if obsessive hoarder, 87, found after 4 years - Sensationalist Headlines

Her daughter, Valerie Jones, 56, was found collapsed under the debris and is said to be lucky to be alive.The body of an obsessive hoarder has been found under a mountain of clutter at her cottage – where it had been for up to four years. Gaynor Jones, 87, died up to four years ago but her body has only just been discovered among her possessions at her home in a 19th century stone cottage in Aberaeron in Wales. Valerie was discovered collapsed under mounds of papers and was taken to hospital. But it took police another four days to find the remains of her widowed mother in another part of the cottage. Neighbours believe her daughter had been sharing the house with her dead mother for “many months or even years.” [url=https://uk.news.yahoo.com/body-obsessive-hoarder-87-discovered-clutter-four-years-daughter-found-collapsed-114834369.html]Source[/url]

Why is obsessive hoarder in bold

No idea, not my doing

That's a hyperlink, if you click it you can navigate to a different page on the world wide web.

Fixed it for you

Oh, sorry if it seemed like I was bothered or anything, I just didn't realize that it was automatically pulled from the formatting on the original site and I thought you did it so I was a wee bit confused

Nah I did wonder too, first thread created on Newpunch so I was curious as well ha

Hoarding is such a weird thing to me. I can understand people that stockpile food/equipment like those apocalypse preparers but hoarders like these just live in absolute filth.

I'm pretty sure it is a mental illness or something like that. I can kind of relate to hoarders, I feel a lot of anxiety about throwing things out that might theoretically be useful. I don't feel it about literal trash though, and I can imagine feeling that way would be terrifying.

Not only was the body there for 4 years, but her daughter lived in the same house without questioning her disappearance. Got to wonder what kind of relationship they had.

I may like to hold onto things 'just in case' (Allen keys man, I have a lot of Allen Keys), but Hoarding on this scale just baffles me.

Hoarding is a very... strange mental illness. I’ve been told a few of my family members were hoarders, though they were before my time. One, however, I was alive for. After he passed when I was 18, my father and I went through the house to find some old family heirlooms that were said to be in his possession. The amount of filth is beyond explanation, you quite literally have to wear a respirator and clothes you’re willing to throw out afterwards. I can tell you right now, if you ever see someone who’s car is filled to the top with clutter and garbage, they’re most likely a hoarder. It’s sad to experience, and it’s even sadder that it isn’t taken seriously as a life threatening mental illness among the general population. Rather than get these people the help they need, we have reality TV shows making a mockery of them.

The two also have radically different styles of hoarding - the preppers are similar to collectors - each and every single thing is meticulously placed, in perfect order. Hoarders on the other hand just bury trash with more trash

I have issues letting go of things if I know I won't see them again so I try to justify why I hang on to stuff and it gets ridiculous sometimes. . It was bad but never hoarder level or stuff but there's been countless times I've had to cleanse my room because it started turning into a junk yard.

Doomsday preppers don't typically have anything to do with hoarders, it's pretty "rational" and not compulsive. They're just stupid, if anything. Hoarding disorder isn't terribly well understood because it was only recently specifically enumerated as a disorder, tho it's been traditionally thought to be a manifestation of OCD, that doesn't actually seem to be correct for most people.

Id say they're cut from the same cloth. Both of them are paranoid to some extent over a sense of loss of readiness. I've met some doomsday preppers and they're nice people but definitely not normal, there's some mental thing going on there

I'm sure in some cases they are, and in others they may have some other form of illness. But I wouldn't go as far as that since I'm sure that most of those people lack certain criteria that are important for hoarding disorder, such as an inability to discard with old shit and clutter making their houses unlivable/a health hazard. They got wacko geopolitical beliefs, but my understanding that it's usually just that and something of a financial hole for them.

For me its receipts, my mum loves to throw shit she thinks is useless out Then the day comes where you need for warranty and oh fuck where is that receipt

I don't want to imagine what that house smelt like with a 4 year old corpse rotting away and whatever else they had in there...

I'm gonna say she probably did realise.

The daughter may have been embarrassed about their living conditions; she may have even felt she was protecting her mother's dignity by hiding their mess. Obviously I can't say, but it must have been such a miserable place to be in one way or the other.

Or the daughter is just off her rocker, and would prefer to live her loner life with her mom like she's always done. Seems like she's been living there her whole life, same with her mother, it's possible that in her world there simply was no other option than living there. It's possible she had an emotional connection with her mother's corpse still - maybe removing it would make feel like things aren't like they've always been. At least that's my low-level, worthless psychological assessment.

oh man that's rough

I think it'd be more the fear of being evicted in that case, as the house is undoubtedly a fire hazard, and calling paramedics or police would reveal her living situation. But many horders do have awareness of how they're trapped by a mental illness, but it's something so difficult to escape. I can only have sympathy, even if there isn't any awareness.

This podcast episode is a great in-depth explanation of hoarding if anyone is interested in learning about it further. How Hoarding Works | Stuff You Should Know

There is a guy who lives in a town near me who drives around in a truck that's filled all the way up to the bottom of the windows with trash. There's just a little clearing for him to sit and access the pedals. I see the thing parked around town and I can't help but stop and stare. Kind of makes me feel better about the state of my car.

eh that doesn't pass the smell test. like maybe she thought she might loose the house if her mother was found dead under the crap, so she just ignored it. i mean its not that large of a structure either.

My brother's friend had an uncle that was part of the the local volunteer fire department, and he dealt with a hoarder on one occasion. Supposedly this individual was so bad he was literally hoarding his own shit, which was in trash bags all around the house. Naturally, the toxic fumes were so overpowering the owner had to wear a gas mask when he was inside the house. I can't imagine what kind of mental state you'd have to be in to think years of your turds were worth saving, but after hearing enough stories about hoarders I'm not even surprised any more.

this makes no sense... a rotting corpse would really smell the house.