So they thought his iPhone was a gun and shot him in his own backyard, and then moments after had a conversation on mute.
Sounds pretty suspicious to me.
Why the fuck do cops in the United States seem to have less training or professionalism than criminal thugs? That's really all they are in some places. Thugs.
Here we go again boys, it's gonna be a wild ride
Mjority of cops now are college grads heading for a month of training, maybe half a year of jail duty, and then sent on their way. Cops back in the older days were mostly people who volunteered, trained, and put on partner duty for a couple of years before being set out by themselves. Add in the general animosity towards the force (which is fair lately) and you have shit like this happen. College is great for criminology, but experience/communication is what really matters when it comes to being on the beat.
Infact my father tried getting back on the force and they told him he needed a college degree to even apply, even though he was a cop for 7 years before hand.
Because America is a capitalist nation and money rules supreme.
Please, do explain what being a capitalist nation has to do with police training and professionalism...
Training costs money and if you spend all ur money u wont get the high score
A major part of the issue is a lack of proper checks and balances towards police.
What's everyone's problem? He broke into a house, ran from police, and when confronted by police, pointed an unidentified metal object at police. You don't think the guy shot gets any blame for this?
So this is a shitpost. Ok. But I'll play along.
Why do other capitalist countries have good police and we don't? You do realize that the US isn't the only capitalist nation, right?
I would point out there's a good chance this has always been a problem, and we're only seeing more of it because of new communication and surveillance technology. Full disclosure, I have nothing to back that up other than my impressions of the usual injustices minority communities experience.
It's also an issue with cops rarely forming with the community. When I was a kid we knew the cops in our area because they did all kinds of stuff with the people here. Now majority of them are hotshots or callous assholes who actively look for any reason to get you in trouble instead of helping you.
well duh, its cuz their officers are trained regardless of their employers high score
The issue was he was asked to show his hands and when he had something in it from showing, they immediately said it was a gun and shot him. Just because you're a criminal doesn't mean police should instantly react to use of deadly force. The guy made a dumb error, but the cop's entire job is to identify the threat and deal with it. Not shoot as soon as the person does what you say for them to do. Its the same issue with the man who had a CC handgun that he announced it was there, and when he was asked to get his wallet, they shot him for reaching for it.
My problem is that just because you stole something (If he actually did) doesn't mean you deserve to die.
"The department had said he advanced toward the officers holding an object extended in front of him. "
That does own not sound like compliance, it sounds like suicide by cop.
We had proximity police here aswell in sensitive/poor places. But then one of our dumbfuck president pretty much said "fuck this gay shit. you cops are here to bust people, not to be their friends" and put an end to it. And since then, the relations between cops and citizens are going downhill.
He didn't die cuz he stole something, it's because he pretended his phone was a gun, pointed it a police and did not stop. I hate either side of this argument, your side or "it's ok he's dead cuz he's a criminal." Both are stupid and moot. He was killed because they thought he had a gun.
..Why are they even allowed to mute it.
There's video of this, you need to pause it and frame by frame it and you can see the story is backed up. "Unarmed black Man shot in his own yard" is a sensationalist as fuck headline made to pull Anti-Cop racial strings
The dude ran from police and ended up in his yard, when the officer rounded the corner you can barely make it out but the guy is standing there on the other side of the yard with both his hands reached out towards the officers. It's also dark. The officer immediately calls out gun and ducks behind the corner, peeks out again and again says gun gun gun to let his partner know. They legitimately think he has a gun, and the guy is acting like he's pointing a gun. They ask the guy to drop it several times before they open fire on him.
It's a justified shooting. He's only unarmed in hindsight
I'm confused because they thought he had a gun, then they thought he had a crowbar, now they're saying he just had a phone.
They also denied him first-aid because he "had a gun"
That's odd. Where I'm from (in the US) the average academy is seven months and then six months of field training. I find it hard to believe that any agency would only provide a month of training. You also mentioned cops doing jail duty, which only sheriff's deputies do (and don't make up the majority of cops), so I'm not sure where that's coming from either.
Okay after watching bodycam footage from another site and the helicopter footage I can imagine why they shot him, its dark out they've been chasing him through a couple yards now, and then he walked towards them with his arms extended.
Nowhere in this article does it mention it was night nor does it really mention that he was pursued for like a couple blocks now.
I retract most of my previous post, its still a shame he was killed.
Yeah people really should take a look at the helicopter and bodycam footage.
Personally, I think it's more of a matter of good cops not really making the news and the worst of our police forces constantly being shoved in our face. I totally believe we have a cop problem - particularly in that there isn't enough penalty for serious error like what we have here - but the poor actions of the few make enough rounds on CNN to become the face of all police in all of the United States, and that simply isn't fair.
Being a police officer is an important job, no matter how publicized it is, these should not happen nearly as much. These are people that the community is supposed to look to for protection, whether they're white or not
For sure. I'm not downplaying it - at least not from the point of view of rendering it a non-problem - but I am generally protective in situations where good people are harmed for the actions of the bad few. Although perhaps that is not fair wording when entire areas of the United States face racial discrimination among police.
Nevertheless, in all of these situations I feel outraged and I think there should be way more liability for the individual officer.
lol
This guy would have gotten blasted even if he was white, Polynesian, mexican, whatever.
If you run from cops and then wave something that looks like a gun at them you're gonna get put down. I don't really have a problem with that considering its 100% avoidable by.... just not doing any of that incredibly dumb shit
Completely the dead guys fault
That's what I don't really understand. When the cops shoot someone and the threat is neutralized, they don't treat the person. The biggest example of this was the guy that was shot in his car and was just left their bleeding to death while multiple cop cars did fuck all.
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