http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43522775
F5 Friday going in full swing, boys
Now get the ball rolling on an inquest on why the search warrant took so fucking long to obtain despite scads of probable cause.
>Paragraph 2 of Schedule 9 requires that the judge considering the application be satisfied of a number of other things:
that the Commissioner has given seven days’ notice in writing to the occupier of the premises in question demanding access to the premises, and
Wonder if this has anything to do with it
How much evidence was destroyed in that time I wonder.
I'm deeply concerned about how much critical evidence was lost as a result of this delay. I'm expecting investigators to find servers wiped clean of all sensitive materials.
If we're talking data stored on Hard Drives, they'd have to be exceptionally slick to trick forensic analysts. There really hasn't been enough time even if they were destroying data "properly" for all traces to be destroyed. Even without full recovery of files, it wouldn't be hard to prove that the data had been recently deliberately destroyed.
The way this whole situation was revealed, broken as rapid fire revelatory wave-after-wave news and then systematically mishandled is going to go down in some sort of study.
The details of this story should have been shared with law enforcement far enough in advance that by the time the story broke to the public at large, a warrant had already been granted. The public needed to know this, but I worry that it was irresponsibly handled to such a degree that the villains are going to get away with it because of how much notice they had that they needed to cover their tracks.
This. You have to do multiple passes on an HDD to actually destroy data entirely. If they had "wiped" it, they probably would have done one pass because they think forensic analysts are stupid or something.
This is stupid.
Officers here can get a warrant at 3 AM on the side of the road 150 miles from the closest town in about 15 minutes via phone or electronically. Though you do piss off the judge you wake up.
How do they even function there.
I hope they manage to recover as much data as possible. If things were found to be deleted, wouldn't that constitute corruption of evidence?
The conspiracy theorist in me is crying, "stalling tactics from CA-connected politicians."
I've been thinking similarly. I might need to put on my tin foil hat for this one, but I've been getting a bad feeling about the amount they've delayed looking at their shit. It doesn't sit right. I know there's procedures they have to go through when getting warrants etc. but surely they could have fast tracked it on the basis that evidence may be destroyed or moved? It just feels like somebody may have slipped somebody else a few quid to keep it tangled up for a little longer.
They might of had to go public simply because without public pressure law enforcement wouldn't be able to get a warrant for CA.
that's still a lousy excuse. giving CA a headstart to cover their tracks because -maybe- the police wouldn't have been able to do anything is a dumb risk to take. Should've gone to authorities first, wait till raid, THEN gone public to reveal why imo.
"Our stupid intern confused "server room" with the "thermite storage room". Needless to say he has been fired."
ICO != police
Has a very different bar of evidence to allow a warrant
Placing my tin-foil hat on:
I think the Tories, that is, Theresa May and the cabinet, have 'utilised' CA's services. My reason for thinking this is that the level of smear campaign run last year against Jeremy Corbyn is equal to and perhaps worse than the smear campaign against Hillary Clinton. "He's a pacifist. He loves terrorists. He wants to surrender to Russia. He hates rich people. If you vote Jeremy in, the country as we know it will DIE." And of course, one of CA's top partners is Rupert Murdoch who, of course, owns the Daily Mail and The Sun who were running borderline hate speech stories about Jeremy Corbyn.
I think the Tories want this buried because their top leadership are implicated.
That's my tinfoil hat conspiracy of course.
Unfortunately we've had a high profile precedent recently of intentionally dbaning your hard drives after being ordered to hand over evidence. "not being suspicious"
Look what someone captured before the warrant...
https://i.redd.it/aolk78ak5nn01.jpg
No, they would have taken the platters out and run them through a wood chipper or one of those e-waste recyclers. DBANing the drives first is pretty optional when the platters are completely shredded.
could this not quite easily be hit with a subpoena to find out what was in those boxes? and it literally has some executive dude looking on over the hiding/eventual destruction of this evidence, so, like, how could the dude in that picture possibly claim ignorance
I'm not sure if this is correct at all but this might be an explanation why the warrant took a while.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1879/e8706765-869d-466c-a57a-2e389c676208/DEEFINE.PNG
Dunno what was going through my head that made me rule out physically destroying hard drives
idk if they would do that really, that data is their whole company, i doubt they want to get rid of it at all.
move it somewhere else, afterall, as long as it wasn't in that office they had a warrant for, it should be safe, right?
"after"
Manipulating folks with facebook memes is just too lucrative for the data companies and useful for politicians for it to ever go away now.
That is assuming they're even running with the same hard drives which had criminal evident in the firs place. It's not hard to replace a hard drive and disappear the ones you don't want found. Then you just run DBAN on them for a week and send them to a hard drive disposal centre.
"that data is their whole company"
Maybe that's why they'd be in such a hurry to destroy it?
Am I the only one who finds that what CA has been doing is plain treason?
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