Beverly Hills bans plug-in hybrids from public charging stations - Polidicks

The city of Beverly Hills, California, has issued new regulations for parking and electric-car charging. As of Monday, April 2, only battery-electric cars will be allowed to park and plug in at any of the city's 35public charging stations—plug-in hybrids will not. In fact, according to a press release describing the policy dated Monday, plug-in hybrids in those spaces will be treated just like conventional vehicles. Which is to say, if they are in a parking space designated for charging—whether ornot they are plugged in and charging—they will be ticketed. The new policy "encourages more availability and efficient use" of the 59240-volt Level 2 charging connectors in 14 parking facilities within the city and also at Roxbury Park. ... To back up the new policy, the city reserves the right to tow away all plug-in hybrids, electric cars that aren't plugged in, those whose charging session are complete, and those plugged in longer than 2 hours. https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1116002_beverly-hills-bans-plug-in-hybrids-from-public-charging-stations

Well this is stupid. I've been a long time fan of fully electric cars since near the founding of Tesla, but honestly even I think that, at least at this moment in time with current transportation infrastructure based around oil products, that every electric car should come with a backup gas power generator/engine, which would technically make it a hybrid. There's just not enough charging infrastructure in place yet to be fully electric for everything everywhere. I can see some logic in wanting to save the high-voltage charging spots for cars that will actually USE that high voltage, but still.. this does not seem like the right answer at all. Also: To back up the new policy, the city reserves the right to tow away all plug-in hybrids, electric cars that aren't plugged in, those whose charging session are complete, and those plugged in longer than 2 hours. Double stupid. I'd be so pissed to have my car towed away for something like this.

this is probably because there's so many fucking priuses in LA that electric cars have nowhere to charge because you see all the electric spots taken by prius drivers

There's no need for PHEVs for the majority of people. Infrastructure is pretty good now in most of the USA, and Europe. I kind of get it, quite often at destination chargers I find all the chargers taken by BMW phevs or Golf GTEs, which is a bit annoying because they don't need to charge to get home but I do and then have to spend time on a rapid later. But I think denying them from public chargers all together is the wrong way to go, rapid chargers sure but they should be able to use the slow ones.

Sounds like we just need more chargers tbh, if we're running into problems with today's EVs plus plug-in hybrids, we certainly won't be able to handle all the EVs in five years.

They roll out together. No ones going to spend the money to have enough chargers as if all cars are EVs right off the bat. As you get more EVs people build more chargers.

tbf the BMW Phev really isn't safe to drive at highway speeds without any charge

The i3 is a REx BEV, not a PHEV. The BMW in my case was an X5 PHEV.

Never owned an EV, why would you need to charge a PHEV at a public station? I thought the whole point was that when you run out it becomes a regular ICE vehicle as backup?

Lower cost to charge up than it is to run the ICE.

Did you read the OP This is the fucking Beverly hills lol.

Good to see Beverly Hills supporting the fossil fuel industry

That's it, fuck the grid, burn more gas to charge up those hybrids. ...idiots

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, exactly, but a car running on electric has a considerably smaller carbon footprint than a gasoline car by unit distance.

I'm saying if I'm driving a hybrid there are two sources of energy I can use to charge my batteries. I can either plug it into the grid at a charging station when I'm on the go or have the gas engine kick in to charge up the batteries. If they are eliminating spaces for hybrids to plug into the grid, the hybrids will rely more on gas to charge their batteries while traveling.

Hybrids don't really charge their batteries (though some do have a special setting to do that) from the engine, at least not much. The engine simply drives the wheels. The difference between a PHEV and a REx BEV is that for it to be a PHEV the engine has to be tied directly into the powertrain, and if it's a REx BEV it simply charges up the battery and isn't connected to the powertrain.