Right now for my gayming computer I am running an i7-960 that can OC decently with 12GB of DDR3 RAM.
I had a GTX 970 for a GPU and I have been wanting to upgrade. However, being on the x58 platform with DDR3/SATA2/USB2/PCI-e2 I felt like an upgrade would more or less entail buying a new computer and I decided to wait to see what this year brought, especially after the great GPU boon.
Now my girlfriend found a great deal on a GTX 1080 and bought it for me out of nowhere for my birthday. Bless her.
It performs great, but the motherboard platform is certainly a bottleneck.
I am running a 144Hz 1080p monitor and my goal is basically to hit 100+ FPS at ultra settings at 1080p.
The two options that I am considering at the moment are Ryzen 1600/X or an i7-8700K, which, with mobo/DDR4, would cost around $400 or $600 respectively.
My question to you lads: What have I not considered? If my sole purpose is pure frames, is the i5 worth it? Is there a cheaper set up that would push my frames further past 60 such as a used 3rd gen i7 where I could reuse my DDR3? OR, should I wait and see what Ryzen 2 does? Or what Intel plans on doing this year since it appears as though that will require another nother new motherboard.
Thank u for your opinions. Sorry if this belongs in a thread somewhere.
Honestly, you'll reach 100+ fps at 1080p regardless of processor choice if you're looking between i5/i7 and Ryzen 5/7.
Look at your other workloads. Will you be doing virtual machines, image processing, 3D work, or video editing? Basically any tasks that will benefit with a higher core count and faster processor speeds would be worth it to go towards the higher end R7/i7. Otherwise the R5/i5 will perform with a minimum impact to framerate in games.
There would be no way for you to reuse your DDR3, and it would be pointless to performance wise.
To put in perspective, I'm running an i5-4670K and a GTX1070. At 1440p, my average framerate tends to be between 80-100 on max settings, dependent on game and settings. You could easily hit that with a GTX1080 at 1080p.
If your priority is framerate at all costs and you want to hit that 144fps in every game if possible, you'll probably need that 8700k. Otherwise you can easily save some money and go for something cheaper. The games where you really need that high framerate (multiplayer twitch shooters etc.) tend to be easier on the CPU and it's not that hard to reach a high framerate in them. For games where framerate isn't all that important, you can then easily turn up the eyecandy if you aren't able to hit your monitor's refresh rate.
I think Ryzen+ is supposed to come out this month if you're willing to wait a bit. Don't expect a miracle from it though as it's just the first gen Ryzen with a few small tweaks and moved to a new manufacturing process. So basically it's gonna be a little more power efficient and hopefully reach a few hundred MHz higher clocks. I'm expecting to see around 10% improvement in performance over the current ones.
Other than that, if you're just gonna be gaming and don't need the extra multithreading that Ryzen offers, the 6-core i5 CPUs seem to be a pretty good option too. You should look up some benchmarks to see what the performance is like in games/software that you'll be using.
It just pains me spending hundreds of dollars to play games at 110fps rather than 80fps. Things that I NEED to run at high refresh already do, but stuff like PUBG really shows the processor's age.
Thanks for the suggestions everyone! The above videos really do not make Ryzen look good for my purpose. Even if the gains don't exactly line up with the massive price hike. Methinks I will wait to see what Ryzen+ offers and most likely wait for a good deal on the 8700K.
Ryzen+ has some nice speed bumps and better OCs, nothing really special though. Could be worth the wait so you get a better deal on a R7 1700.
Joke's on you guys. I bought one of these.
SLBV5 X5680 Intel Xeon 3.33GHz 12MB 6.4GT/s LGA1366 CPU Processo..
But why though? Is it just a temporary stopgap upgrade until new cpus come out and ram prices drop?
Like yeah the two extra cores will give you a small boost in some games, but you'd see a much bigger increase from the much higher performance per core of current cpus.
More or less a stop gap.
$60 to shrink my die size, increase cores by 150%, raise base clock to above my old boost and double my cinebench score even before OC? Seems reasonable to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJisHwawKfs
If everything goes according to plan it should hit 1100+ in cinebench with a decent OC, which places it at or better than Ryzen 6 cores on paper.
You still look a ways off from hitting 1100, how high do you intend to clock this thing?
I guess it's not too shabby for a 60$ upgrade if you're gonna be using this to run some well threaded software.
The single core speeds on those are ass, I have two of them in my server, great for VM's but non-multithreaded applications you might see a performance loss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEvLbWG2QY
Here's a decent comparison on the slower clocked version. I did overestimate, but 1K+ should be attainable if the thing overclocks at all. (It's weird cause when he points to the screen to show the 1009 score, it says 4.1GHz, but then later says it's running at 4.4GHz so iono)
It also looks like it will require a bios flash since my x58 board is one of the earlier ones. Worst case scenario I just resell it!
RIP ME
The chip just drops in and works, but overclocking is a no go.
Board won't go above 150 base clock with the x5680 in it and prevents my memory from running a single MHz over 1333.
It will OC to 3.9GHz without overvolting or going over 60C, BUT due to multipliers, at that speed the RAM is forced to run at 1200MHz.
This appears to be a bottleneck as Cinebench hits ~730 and stays there for 3.33, 3.45, 3.6, 3.75 & 3.9 GHz with 1200MHz RAM where it hits ~780 with 3.33GHz and 1333 RAM.
Videogames run nearly identically, with the exclusion, so far, of PUBG and Tarkov, both of which seem to run noticeably better. Unfortunately the games I actually benched before/after (Far Cry 5, Rainbow 6: Siege, GTA V) run almost exactly the same.
Disappointing for sure, since I believe the chip running on a better board at 4GHz+ with 1600 memory would give it a better bump over what I had, but the prices of better boards are ridiculous. Not gonna pay cheap z370 money for a 10 year old motherboard.
Now I have Xeon fever and want to investigate peoples' claims that the x5650/60/70 are the better overclockers. I mean it's just $30 more bucks rite??
In any case, it runs a lot cooler with slightly better performance and more cores, so not a total loss.
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