it seems as if once they change recoil, im like ok this isnt that bad, then they change it again and it absolutely horrible, there is no way of controlling it. are they asking for more people to use scripts and hacks?
they are trying to break scripts/hacks by changing recoil once every month...
cheaters and makros able to adapt programs
a person can not adapt
Short bursts, people, short bursts! This is no CS. Neither is it HG with its random conefire.
How can u state such a BS??? They brake it for like 1 hour. Do you even know how to create macros???NO!All the retarded script kiddies will run around tomorrow happily with their new scripts and killing the normal people who play without scripts. And the great EAC will ban them like once every 2-3 mounths or even more, they will buy new copy and thats all...
What, you'd like to point and click, delivering all 30 rounds on target at 100yards? It is GOOD that the aim jumps uncontrollably, you need to single fire and then it's quite controllable. Up to 3 shot bursts you can expect to miss 1 shot. Nothing like RNG to mess up laserguns ! Simply adapt and keep in mind, those are handmade guns, from whatever you found, they're not going to behave like factory guns.
after almost 4000 hours in Rust played this AK change is what is making me quit and uninstall Rust
AK is broken and shit i am very disappointed
U cant controll now 3 bullets, nor 2...thats what im talking about. Please go and check it out before posting more BS about how to shoot from an AK when u clearly have no clue how is it working now...Also stop this BS about compering a videogame to real life...its just make u look totally ignorant fck. This way i can say u cant heandle a single hit to your head with a rock lol, i hope u understand how stupid is this compering thing is...AK was totally fine before this update, u were able to controll pretty well the first 3-4 bullets(still not always and pretty hard, but it was ok). Nobody ever talked about 30bullets in one point, dont argue with your own stupid statements!
that is the whole point... you don't understand - do you?
By making the recoil harder (for normal people) they will create an even bigger gap between those who script and those who don't.
The bigger this gap - the easier it is for EAC team to manually check/comb throught the logs - and (I pray one day this happens) to come up with an algorithm that auto-bans anyone using a script on the spot!
But what do I know? I dont even know how to be a script kiddie...
same here. im just sitting and trying to figure out what to do. the only game i like is rust, i dont play any other game, but with this broken AK i wont play since 90% of my gametime is running around with my AK...
you should check the EAC website a little before you speak
And... this is a fact? Macros that are in memory - dont get "autobanned" (big difference with manual ban - when you report someone and EAC team reviews the report), they can get banned after a player is reported and his logs are checked.
Soooo you are saying by messing up the game for a lot of people who are legit skilled with the ak
so they can punish Scripters? do you know how many of my veteran friends quit the game bc of this recoil bullshit change for like the 4th or 4th time in the past 6 months!!!
All those skilled 5k-6k-7k hour players quit and it sucks
The recoil was already pretty difficult to learn from the start, now just when I started to get the hang of it.. back to square one.
Quitting as well. This update is an insult to the players who have been most loyal to the game.
Lol all these supposed "3k hours and up" players quitting. If your idea of having fun in Rust is running around with an AK like it's a battlefield server, that's pretty boring. IMO primitive gear is what makes the game more fun, since there's actual counterplay against people with the same equipment, and it takes some measure of skill to land shots at longer ranges with bows/crossbows, etc. The AK was a literal laser in the right hands, look at someone like hJune who can land a ridiculous amount of shots with the AK before the update. That amount of control does not take a long time to master at all, and that is a problem.
HAHA u just basically stated u didnt like ak and u play with primitive gear thats why u dont give a fck about broken AK And yes ak in right hands was very strong, but no it wasnt easy to learn. Not even sure what r u talking about , what skill u need to shoot from bow to distance...like u say u didnt need skill to land double headshots with ak from 100-150m? or u cant counterfight an ak guy with ur ak? I know what u mean...u dont play with it so it doesnt bother u if they make it broken and act like a cool guy who dont care and so cool that he can adapt to primitive stuff....so funny
I wouldn't phrase it that way - but yes. Which poison would you pick? Gameplay absolutely ruined by someone with auto-aim and no-recoil scripts, or simply a harder AK recoil to master if you are a legit player?
The answer should be obvious...
If your friends are adults - they would know that things in life change from time to time not they way we planned, and that being able to adapt is an essential skill to have. If they cant adapt - well, thats their problem.
Don't get me wrong - I wish they didnt have to change the recoil and EAC would just magically ban all the "bad people". But life doesn't work that way and FP had to make a compromise.
Keep in mind - there is no official stement on this (and very unlikely that there will be one) - so this is pretty much my speculation as to why the AK recoil was changed. It makes no sense to change it for any other reason...
Your entire discussion becomes null and void if you don't understand how EAC works (and EAC reporting), everything else you say from that point on is just a straw man argument based on incorrect info. EAC uses Cheat Analysts to look at logs and review player patterns. -> Kamu
Its hilarious that you admit to trying cheats and state that you have friends who cheat as well. Can you link your steam profile please so I can do everyone a favor and report?
The fact that you can re-buy the game for $8 sucks...and I hope they change that...but that price usually only works for 3rd world markets (Russia, China, etc...) I dont think you can buy Rust in US for that cheap (maybe some very rare once a year sales)
STFU, the recoil is too easy, know about the ak recoil irl before talking:
https://youtu.be/46iwPQNJOkk?t=666
AK IS BROKEN devs can u fucking do something with that and stop adding boats ? rip my 2,8k on that fucking game fuck this. finaly some ak where u need skill and now you add this? fix or u will loose a lot of players
U my friend a totally ignorant cunt. I understand u r the type of guy who dont have an AK even on the last day of a wipe, but why r u trying to talk into these things than? I understand that u dont care how broken is the AK. Nobody ever stated its against scripters. I already explained to u why it CANT BE AGAINST SCRIPTERS and u keep talking the same BS.
No they cant chnage that they rebuy the game for 8 or even less. Im pretty sure these r hacked accounts, the site im talking about was selling rust accounts atleast for 1 year already(i bought 2 a year agom but im poretty sure t he site is much older) There is always copies of rust u can buy, im also pretty sure there are tons of other sites too that sell it for even lower price. Yes this is a russian site BUT THE COPY OF RUST IS REGION FREE. I finished argueing with u becouse u r the type of guy who will NEVER admit he is WRONG. Have fun running around and roleplaying.
U mY fRiEnD tYpE LiKe a kIdDiE. aNd YoU sCrIpT = a sCrIpT kiDdIe. I gave you a baby bottle.
Now go do your homework! (no, not your school homework, you should do that too - but your homework to research how EAC works, and that I do have an AK weeks before the server wipes - check my posts, I've been advocating for shorter wipes, because of how boring it gets running with maxed gear). Also check the fact that I didn't say I "welcome the AK" change - I was simply explaining why I think it was implemented (to help EAC identify scripters easier).
And you didn't explain shit. You mentioned that you tried scripting, and that supposedly scripts which are in the memory of the mouse cannot be banned (false). You also have hacker friends, and you bought 2 accounts already for cheap (which were presumably banned because you tested scripting with them? right?)
Im still waiting for your stem ID so we can test the theory that you won't get banned with a script in "mouse memory"? Scared?
Really interesting video, thanks.
ok go outside go to yous local gun renage get an ak if they have one got out to the range and shoot it full auto you wil not be able to controle it so stfu
Yes im 12 years old! Yes im scared ! Becouse i know they will ban my account becouse i said on a forum that i tried out cheats and scripts!
hahaha your gonna get banned smart child
I feel like i was stupid trying to talk to hardcore fanboys who are not even allowed to buy a bottle of beer...
Maybe I should clarify:
I think the AK in its previous state was unbalanced, you could hold down the trigger and wiggle your mouse downward to get a perfectly straight spray, and it did not take much skill to do so. I have played with the AK, and it is simply boring. Once you got it, there is literally no reason to use any other gun. It ticked too many boxes that made it better than every other gun. It also makes the game impossible for new players to get their foot in the door, especially since there was no blueprint wipe this time. I think that with the current nerf, people will either a) adapt to the new AK and deal with; b) use other guns and make the game more diverse by doing so; or c) leave the game. If your reaction is to leave the game because of a weapon nerf, then leave. You will make the game better by doing so.
The 'counterplay' argument of using an AK to counter an AK is stupid. Someone using a different gun in a straight up 1v1 against a guy with an AK will lose most of the time. That shouldn't happen. Someone with, say, a Python or a SAR should have more of a chance against the AK then they did before.
I don't really understand your point on me 'trying to act cool by using primitive gear.' I legitimately think that is the most fun stage in the game, and the most well balanced. There is no primitive weapon that is outright better than any other.
i mean yeah im not 21 but i still like the game
Than remove AK, but dont make it a random shooting something that can hurt a lot.You seriously dont or just dont understand or just dont want to understand where will it lead.Tons of scripters will raise again. Also what u just said about pulling the mouse down u get a perfect spray with old AK is just simply totally false. Maybe in very very close range it was easy to controll the spray, but on like 100-150meters it was a totally different situation(actually im not even talking about spray but just the first 3-4bullets).Just a few people were able to do that, sure except the scripters. Also i dont understand the argument about it was too OP...since it cost tons of resources, sure its OP...Why u want an AK to be on the same level as a SAR? They shouldnt be. If somebody risking his AK(resources to craft it) he should have the advantage in a fight against somebody who is going out only with a SAR. AK is not like a M2 thats is amazingly hard to get so solo players rarely have it, so everybody have a chance to get the ak and than kill other ak guys.You act like before a skilled guy couldnt easily kill a noob AK guy, i made it tons of time, also i was killed sometimes in the ass same way. AK wasnt a godmode weapon dont act like this...And its better than something that cost u 100 wood...sure
The answer is simple: Buff all the other guns
They're guns. You shouldn't fear one of them, you should fear all of them.
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